Naturism Nudist Kids
Kistiñe Dziuk
Anyway, I received an invitation from a client to build some websites for nudists/naturists. No problem there, until I stumbled upon images and videos with naked minors (4-12 year old probably). Even though there was no sexual content, I found it to be immoral and refused, even though the pay was good. The client is basically selling DVDs of nude families/gropus doing normal stuff, like a barbequeue, having fun at the pool, etc, while naked. Like I said, no problem there until I saw the children, even without any sexual content, to me it seems totally wrong, and it's even worse making a business out of it.
Not sure what the legal limitations are, it's most probably legal, since the DVDs are sold publicly, although it's beyond my comprehension why, but I'm just wondering who the target audience of these DVDs are. Who buys them? My concern is that pedophiles who simply don't wanna take chances of downloading illegal risky content will settle for this type of entertainment, I could be wrong, in my country I doubt it's legal to sell this type of content containing naked children, how in the world is it legal in the US?
In France, for example, any representation of naked minors, or persons who look as they are under 18, is considered as child pornography and thus a crime. I don't believe one second that people who buy these kind of DVDs featuring naked people and naked minors do that because they're interested into naturism.
Sunlight is the best disinfectant. Disturbing things like this should be made known with an ironclad no acceptance or toleration policy made completely clear. UW should also send what information it does have to the authorities.
I mentioned in my initial post that I tried, and that the contact support button wasn't working.
Also, I don't see why they shouldn't be in a public forum, I actually think this conversation should be public, and not hidden.
It was on the web, searchable with Google, I didn't receive anything. As this job creator mentioned, the first 10 results of the keywords "naturist dvd" or something were his client's websites. That's why I am surprised, it's very out there and public, hence my shock and surprise of why is it legal.
After looking on WHOIS, I noticed that some of these website are based in The Netherlands.
I'm proud to say that I'm a naturist and I don't see the big deal in it, but some people are so fearful of it that I would really like to know, is it really wrong and what the views of the board are on this topic?
I don't particularly think naturism is wrong but it is often misinterpreted. Years ago I worked for a national newspaper and magazine distributor and we distributed the main naturism magazine for the UK. In the area I worked, there were very few copies ordered by individuals, the vast majority went as top shelf magazines to those too embarassed to buy more overtly top shelf titles.
I don't think it is right to enforce naturism on children just as much as I don't think it is right to enforce religion, until they are old enough to make up their own minds. With the best will in the world, I don't think you can make it safe. With the way paedophilia invades our societies today you can bet your bottom dollar that at least one man/woman at a naturist event surreptitiously gets their jollies from watching children.
[updated:LAST EDITED ON 21-06-02 AT 07:19 PM (GMT)]What I want to know is how you can go around wooking at nude women and not have the urge to...you know. I have heard nusism has been around in europe for hundreds of years.
It is just another carrot (or stick, not sure!) which the gutter press use to entice us to buy their papers. It's whipped up out of all proportion (like the mob who burned down someone's house because she was a paediatrician and they were a dumb mob).
I agree that there are problems in the world, but with a little control we can all over come them :) I guess you could say that I'm overly protective of children, some would say that this is a direct cause of what happened to me, but I don't care. It's not just my three kids that I care for, but all kids. My friend who is staying with me now, was going to give her kid up for adoption, but I stopped it cause there are so unknown factors about where a child might go! I told her that I would take her daughter cause none of her family would, not even the little girls father (and that really got to me cause she's a wonderful kid). But when my friends sister found out that I said I would take her, she jumped in and said "No I will take her", thuus I'm left with the mother and that has been very interesting in it self }>
The point is, I don't want to enforce it on my kids when they come to stay with me, so how do I introduce them to it with out harming them psycologically? I think that Kevs mags are a good step, but another direction is one of the "Clothing Opptional" resorts where families go, there's one about 45 min drive from my place, just over the mountain and it is a world class resort, do you think this might be good?
[updated:LAST EDITED ON 23-06-02 AT 06:06 PM (GMT)]I don't see what can be wrong about it. In Belgium, since a couple of months, we also have a nudist beach, mostly occupied by fat or/and ugly women(*), so I really don't wanna visit that place. Maybe when I'm in Sweden or Italy, I'll come to change my mind :9.
We found a small cove surrounded by handy smooth rocks. Lots of locals were swimming themselves, and I jumped straight in the sea. I got out, but as I was swimming to the rocks to get out, a 20-something woman swum past me and climbed out before me. She was starkers.
Andrea Budzey made her first foray into social nudity at Bare Oaks Family Naturist Park in East Gwillimbury, Ont. when her first child, pictured here, was just 5 months old. Research shows that people who spend time nude or partially nude around other people like their bodies more, regard themselves more positively overall and are more satisfied with life overall.
A new mom, Budzey decided that a visit to Bare Oaks should go on her bucket list. So on one beautiful summer day when the weather was just right, she packed up her then five-month-old son and made the trip.
New research from Goldsmiths, University of London suggests that the naturist lifestyle may help her and her kids lead happier lives. Dr. Keon West, a psychologist at the university, explored the connection between psychological well being and naturist activities and found that those who spend time naked or partially naked around others like their bodies more, regard themselves more positively and are more satisfied with life.
Stphane Deschnes is a veteran naturist who has raised two children, now 17 and 20, as naturists from birth. He and his wife are the owners of Bare Oaks, and Deschnes teaches a course on naturism at the University of Toronto.
But this episode was written at a time when there was no internet to speak of. The access to pornographic images for Beavis and Butthead was relegated to magazines with the front covers shielded, kept safely behind the counter at 7-Elevens and gas stations. (Or, more exotically, at nudist colonies.)
So, how do we reconcile our normal and healthy drives with the massive amount of sexually provocative material that is amply available online? More importantly, how do we discuss these issues with our kids?
Steven Schlozman, MD, is an assistant professor of psychiatry at Harvard Medical School (HMS), course director of the psychopathology class for the MIT-HMS Program in Health, Sciences and Technology, and former co-director of the Clay Center for Youn...
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