[BNM] sharepoint views

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Simon Early

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Mar 26, 2012, 9:53:26 AM3/26/12
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Listeroonians,
What's the general view on Sharepoint?
is it a big player, with a future etc, or have other technologies become
the preffered option?
is there a future in it etc?

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Jay Caines-Gooby

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Mar 26, 2012, 12:05:22 PM3/26/12
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On 26 March 2012 14:53, Simon Early <simon...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Listeroonians,
> What's the general view on Sharepoint?
> is it a big player, with a future etc, or have other technologies become
> the preffered option?
> is there a future in it etc?


Lipstick on a pig. All .asp & .net underneath. So yeah, of course its used
in loads of places. But if you value your sanity, stay well away.

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Hazlitt Eastman

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Mar 26, 2012, 12:10:30 PM3/26/12
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+1 Totally agree with Jay

On 26 Mar 2012, at 17:08, Andrew...@gmail.com wrote:

> +1 what Jay said!


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Louise Hewitt

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Mar 26, 2012, 12:36:48 PM3/26/12
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About 60% of the big co's I work with at ibfoum.com are either currently on
or moving to SharePoint.

The bigger tge company, the more likely they are to be using it. The
integration is just irresistible.

There are big problems with it out of the box, but I've seen impressive
things done with it when configured and reskinned.

Lou

Louise Hewitt

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Mar 26, 2012, 12:38:49 PM3/26/12
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Just to clarify, it doesnt mean *I* think its good, just thatl if you aee
thinking of playing in the intranets space, it is a big deal, particularly
2010, wth its social and cloud capabilities.

Lou

Barry Prendergast

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Mar 26, 2012, 1:00:17 PM3/26/12
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Hi all,

I'm just finishing a contract with a company with 150k employees, all
running SharePoint on some level. Part of my role was heavily involved in
evaluating SP usage for various UI/UX project. I have to say that the
system is a big turd in cheap lipstick. Difficult difficult
lemon bloody difficult. Worst of all, in terms of US< there is massive
inequity between on-line and offline features so lists and forms are
really, horribly unreliable. Also, don't get me started about the horrible
desktop clients...

I would totally agree with Louise that big companies are getting behind it,
but I would question what that means in terms of good/bad judgements? Keep
in mind that these same companies are keeping IE6 and SAP alive. They
likely have enormous LDAP and Exchange systems in play already and closer
business relationships with Microsoft (I had the ear of an SP champion
inside MS for any technical requests for a while) so it's much easier for
them to roll-out an enormous system that inherits it's look and feel from
MS desktop products, sh*tty or not...

I for one will be glad to see that back of this horrible system.

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Louise Hewitt

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Mar 26, 2012, 3:42:04 PM3/26/12
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:) fear you may be waiting a while for that dream Barry.

If web designers ran the world, eh? Not procurement processes.
On Mar 26, 2012 6:00 PM, "Barry Prendergast" <barry.m.p...@gmail.com>
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Simon Early

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Mar 26, 2012, 5:10:52 PM3/26/12
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Can I just ask, those respondees - I'm looking at this from a "are there
work/projects to be had in the future" rather than architecture
and Microsoft-bashing.

After all, from a personal viewpoint, I started off with Unix (loved it,
simple, worked), went onto windoze (lots of toys , that kept breaking, but
was fun while it worked), then Ubuntu for a bit of fun - fast, simple,
great, but then I woke up and needed to work in the real world to now
<gasp> a Mac! (it just works, but you cant alter it and it costs double the
price of anything else>, so I'm a bit of a mongrel. Despite me hating
restrictions.

In term of work, is it something to bit the bullet and get into?- Bearing
in mind I went down the ColdFusion Route and Betamax many moons ago :-(

Louise Hewitt

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Mar 26, 2012, 6:00:39 PM3/26/12
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Depends on your scale I would guess and the cost to you of getting into it.

The companies I'm referring to are on the scale of are on the scale of HSBC
and Microsoft themselves, so if that's your target group then definitely
yes. For smaller teams there is a trend toward homegrown integration
platforms for 3rd party services like Google,seearch + jive + yammer etc.
Or the more friendly packages like thoughtfarmer.

Hope this helps.

NB I'm content/ux/strategy focused so I can't speak for the tech issues

Lou

Sevan / Venture37

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Mar 26, 2012, 7:00:25 PM3/26/12
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On 26/03/2012 23:40, Barry Prendergast wrote:
> Hmmm,
>
> I have just been working with the system for the last 6 months and found it
> exceptionally wasteful in terms of value for development time spent and
> overall flexibility - plus it achieves nothing special (besides Office
> connectivity) compared to even basic systems like GoogleApps*in my opinion*.
> Apart from my shitty UX comment, you could hardly call that MS bashing
> really? I don't know if anyone else did either actually. Just some
> Sharepoint bashing, because it's rubbish. My main reason for choosing to
> never use it again is I would feel hard pushed to pass dross on to my
> clients - that's nothing to do with Microsoft. I don't even own a mac fer
> Steve's sake! :p
>
> As for your reiterated question, yes, it exists so therefore there should
> be work out there for you to find if you look. Will it bring you the wealth
> and intellectual challenges you've been searching for? Probably not.
>
> Barry

Learn to trim your replies you lazy git!
See:
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Barry Prendergast

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Mar 27, 2012, 5:43:43 AM3/27/12
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Sorry Sevan (and everyone else)

Gmail hides all that for me under 'quoted text' foldaway areas so unaware
it was *that* bad :p

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