WAR WITH IRAN and 4/13/06
J. Pizzle
coming to speak with CRLS students after school in A102 about volunteer
opportunities on the Charles River and in other areas of Cambridge.
please excuse all profanity in the following message
http://dailytelegraph.news.com.au/story/0,20281,18761183-5001027,00.html
will everyone please read the above article on war with iran, and then
will everyone please promise to take to the streets with me if these
mother fuckers bomb iran. this is getting so serious and i dont want
to see anyone else i know go to war for some big bitch in washington.
fuck war.
Ricky Wat
Ricky Wat
haha)
WASHINGTON - A magazine news story suggesting the Bush administration
will go to war to stop Iran from developing a nuclear bomb is long on
HYPE and SHORT on facts, a senior administration official said Sunday.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,191068,00.html
This article is referring to your article.
J. Pizzle
impossible that we attack iran. all im saying is that if we do attack
iran, we should make a revolution.
jedimafia
from developing Nuclear bomb is that we do not have the BALLS!
Especially with the current circumstance that we are in. Also there
will be no public support towards this administration.
Ricky Wat
messing with the American psyche. The media says a lot of bull to spurr
controversy and criticism about our administration.
Why do you believe that attacking Iran is not in the best interest of
America now?
Jake
especially in the middle east, 'cause I don't wanna have to fight in it.
J. Pizzle
best interest. you and I will be fighting in this war. I'm not
traveling to the other side of the world to kill people i dont have
anything against and then die.
im hoping so very much that we stop fighting every and all wars very
soon, but it is such a possibility that we invade iran. Do you
remember how quickly and how out of nowhere our conflict came with
Iraq? It was just like peace and then BAM suddenly we have beef with
iraq. that was so uncool. now all of a sudden its like BAM we have
beef with Iran because they are trying to develop nucleur power. All i
can say is that if they do make a nucleur bomb and bomb israel it wont
be just the U.S. jumping on them, but most of the world.
jide, we do have the balls. because the people dropping bombs are so
out of touch with the american footsoldier.
hope and pray for peace in the middle east.
whit...@gmail.com
attack Iran unless you've had a chat with Bush recently. Lets just
wait and see what happens. And why is attacking Iran not our best
interest right now? Because we are already forcing troops to stay past
their contract, do you want the draft to be put in place? Do you want
to have to fight for a war that is happening because Bush decided that
it was time for Iran to have a regime change? Why can't Bush just stay
out of the Middle East's business? He has no authority to elect
himself caretaker of all countries in the Middle East that he decides
need regime changes. I'm completely with you Joe. Two more years till
American is Bush-free.
Ricky Wat
"most active state sponsor of terrorism." Iran continues to provide
funding, weapons, training, and sanctuary to numerous terrorist groups
based in the Middle East and elsewhere. Iran mostly backs radical
Islamist groups, including the Lebanese Shiite militants of Hezbollah
(which Iran helped found in the 1980s) and such Palestinian terrorist
groups as Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad. So, Iran is an avid
support of terrorism. They support Hamas, Hezbollash, and other
Palestinian Islamic Jihad groups. Particularly, they REFUSE to justice
senior al-Qaeda members it detained in 2003. Iran supports Al-Qaeda as
well! IIn light of all these facts, Iran is a much more dangerous
adversary than Iraq every was. It publically supports
terrorist-affiliated groups.
Iran HAS WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION. Iran possesses chemicals that can
induce bleeding, blistering, and choking, as well as the bombs and
artillery shells to deliver these agents. Iran also has an active
biological weapons program, driven in part by its acquisition of
"dual-use" technologies-supplies and machinery that can be put to
either harmless or deadly uses. Finally, with help from Russia, Iran is
building a nuclear power plant, but U.S. officials say that Iran is
more interested in developing a nuclear weapon than in producing
nuclear energy.
CONCLUSION: Now, if "the most active supporter of terrorism" nation
provides terrorist groups nuclear weapons, chemical weapons, or
biological weapons. Americans will die in the millions, and we should
act immediately to half Iranian nuclear development or else millions of
Americans could die in the hands of terrorist with Iranian made WMD.
There is no other state that is more synomous with TERRORISM than IRAN.
If IRAN acquires Nuclear weapons, then Terrorist would have access as
well. Americans would suffer far more pain and destruction than all the
past terrorist attacks including 9/11 put together.
Max to the Borg
of avoiding being drafted, get a doctors subscription for riddilin.
The army doesnt accept people who aare on riddilin. So next time your
math teacher sees you looking out of the window, just tell him/her that
you are perparing for a war with iran.
J. Pizzle
terrorists. iran is a nation of millions of people, and they dont all
support terrorists. once we take them over, what do we do with their
country? do another iraqi thing that doesnt work? and if they are
going to use these weapons of mass destruction on America, why havnt
they done so already? and if they have these weapons of mass
destruction, why havnt they used them on israel already?
because we scare them, right? okay so if we scare them now why will we
scare them less if they have a nucleru bomb? we have so many more
nukes than them. ricky have you ever been beaten up? have you ever
been hti by a car, or fallen off you bike badly? have you ever cut
yourself badly? imagine having absolutely no choice. the government
sends you a letter. YOU HAVE TO GO GET CUT BADLY. YOU HAVE TO BE IN A
CAR CRASH. YOU HAVE TO GET SHOT. YOU HAVE TO DIE AND LEAVE YOUR
FAMILY TO MOURN. that is what the draft notice will be like when you
are going to iran. it will guarantee you intense physical pain and
probable death, and you will have no choice about it.
i dont wanna go to war ricky, unless were fighting for a damn good
cause. and iran having "weapons of mass destruction" is not a good
cause. show me some pictures of them selling these weapons to
terrorists. doesnt matter, i still wont agree with you! if we get
bombed by iran ill fight them, but im not pulling another iraq.
J. Pizzle
the foot.
Ricky Wat
States of America should go to war. if joe doesn't want this, america
won't have it. if joe is a coward, then aemrica will follow in his
footsteps and be a coward.
Iran providing terrorist with Weapons of Massive Destruction is not
good enough? What if terrorist NUKE New York City? What will your
perception of Iran supplying terrorist with nukes be then? too late, 16
million new yorkers died of radiation fall out already.
This goes back to the conversation of NK. Joe brought up and asserted
NK "could" sell nuclear weapons to terrorist. I am using Iran instead
of NK. Why don't Joe show me some pictures of NK selling weapons to
terrorist. I cannot, and you cannot.
*****"if they have these weapons of mass
destruction, why havnt they used them on israel already? *********
haha - why hasn't WW3 broken out 2 seconds ago? I can't answer that.
Ricky Wat
nation. "Shooting yourself in the leg" to avoid being drafted as YOU
YOURSELF SUGGESTED IS COWARDLY>
Yes, I called you a coward, and what? What are you going to do about it?
J. Pizzle
Ricky Wat
fresh pair of batteries.
whit...@gmail.com
than Iran does. What I don't understand is that the US feels justified
to invade every country that is rumored to have nukes. Even if they
do, fine, we do too. The only reason we're allowed to is because we
are the most powerful. We get to decide who has nukes, and we have
decided that no one but us can. That is so hypocrytical. The only
reason Iran has nukes (if they do) is because they're scared. I would
be too, if I knew that another country had enough to blow up the world
7 times over. Iran knows they can never compete with us, and they are
just making a feeble attempt to become a country to be reckoned with.
But they won't be because we have so many more nukes than them. Don't
worry, they won't bomb us because they know we can go into their
country and rip them to shreds. Or, we can stand in our own country
and send over some bombs to rip them to shreds. I don't understand how
the US can actually justify it. It's like if you had a knife and I had
a tank and 20 machine guns, and I was like "shit, your attacking me.
I'm gonna beat your ass." It's soo hypocrytical.
jedimafia
of the United States ONE BIT. Yes, it seem like it. One of the major
reasons why they have it is to intimidate the U.S. One thing guys of
have to understand is that these people arent afraid death is
exemplified in scenarios you hear everyday of sucide bombings. Also it
is the wil of the majority that is being followed in such countries.
its just like a soccer game- the referees decision is final. it is the
decison made by the leaders of such countries- just like for example
North Korea. Iraq- Saddam regime etc. With Iran's possession and
developement of WMD- THE UNITED STATES IS THE PUNK n THE P WORD-( sorry
about my profanity). if we arent so scarred off our asses getting blown
up and destroyed, we wouldnt be so much concerned of these countries -
Iran, North Korea, possessing and developing WMD. The U.S is a SISSY n
we dont gat the guts to wage war with Iran. What you have to understand
is that the United States has concession and is considerate of the
safety of her citizens and is too scared. Iran has he weapon but just
like North Korea, she is waiting for U.S to set the stage on fire
first. Then the next thing, california, Newyork, boston, washington DC-
JUST TO BOMB BUSH'S ASS is all gonna be gone. what you have to realize
is that they would target places that would affect our economy
drastically that it will take a damn long time to recovers- that's if
we can - AFTER THE WHOLE WORLD IS BLOWN UP n u all be CHILLING IN
HEAVEN or HELL- i'll be chilling with my family in the MOON. BY the way
we need to find another option apart from earth were we humans can
inhabit- FOREALL.
J. Pizzle
maybe if we had some fear of a country we wouldnt be so stupid in
invading one. we are by no means a sissy, because if we were we
wouldnt be waging war in two countries right now. we are overconfident
and cocky. thats the problem. and islamic people are afraid of death,
just as much as you and I are. just because there are certain suicide
bombers, doesntmean all of them arnt afraid of death. they fear the
U.S. invading their country and dropping bombs more than we fear
another terrorist attack. And because they live in more fear than we
do, we are the terrorists here, not Iran.
Ricky Wat
Iran itself. I fear the possibility that Iran could provide nuclear
weapons to terrorist groups such as Al-Qaeda and detonate nuclear bombs
over Boston, killing millions of people.
This is unlike Hiroshima/Nagasaki bombs, where only 200,000 died by a
15 kiloton bomb.
Today's nuclear weapons are couple thousand times more powerful than
Hiroshima and Nagasaki combined - and can devastate the civilian
population, killing people in the TENS OF MILLIONS. Don't even get me
talking about HYDROGEN BOMBS, fusion of hydrogen isotopes, couple
thousand times more powerful than a atom bomb, and hundreds of
thousands of times more powerful than the weak Hiroshima and Nagasaki
bombs combined.
Its a legitimate fear. Especially recognizing the circumstances
surrounding the 9/11 attacks, we must be at full alert of any potential
threats that may harm you, me, and the American public.
If you denounce the safety of the American people, then your basically
putting the 300 million people of America at risk for another terrorist
attack, but this one, with Iranian support, could involve nuclear
weapons.
Max to the Borg
is smart enough to be afraid of any country on this planet? Absolutely
not. That is the problem. Also, if the USA, which is currently one of
the top Military forces in the world, wants to stay that way, showing
that they are intimidated by another country is not an options. If
your enemies sense your weekness, they will damn well use your weekness
against you. I am in agreement w/ Dicky Wat, it is the supporting of
terrorists that we are worried about. And if G Dubbs who is seemingly
devoting his life to bringing down terrorism, do you think he will pass
up on the chance to take down a country supporting terrorists as well
as a chance to gain some strength points in the playground of major
nations throughout the world. Also, i will leave you with one word
that could be solely responsible for a war with Iran:
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O ya, Oil.
MAX
Eva
these super powerful nuclear bombs n stuff that could kill millions and
millions and millions of people...... like what is the point of even
making these bombs? if the US ever used them to kill off another
country or basically just cause an insane amount of deaths, wouldnt
that just be classified as the Stupidest Thing Ever considering that
the whole rest of the world would hate our guts and start a permanent
war against us? like wtfffff are these people thinking?!?! basically i
dont think that the US or any other country would ever use such extreme
weapons of mass destruction such as these psycho bombs............ but
of course im not saying that they wouldnt use other kinds of smaller
missiles or whatever. just the big scary ones that everyone is so
paranoid about
akada...@gmail.com
no but you are right... there is no need for these weopons of mass
destruction and the only thing they bring is world fear so big ups
eva... unfortunatly we are too entrenched in war/ establishing our
power throughout the world...
jedimafia
sugar.an...@gmail.com
Seriously, I am really confused about the whole war thing. First we
started in Afganistan chasing that Bin Laden dude and like capturing
his friends because we thought they were terrorists, ...then we went
into Iraq because we thought that they had weapons of mass
destructions, even though as Whitney said, we have even more weapons of
mass destructions than they do. ,...and now we're in Iran imperializing
them??????? Somebody please unconfuse me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Also,
did you hear about how George Bush said that he/they wanted to fight
the war (actually he wanted the commen men to fight his war for him)
because somebody tried to assasinate his father!!!???!!!???!!!???
Joe, I'm totally with you...NO WAR>>>PROMOTE WORLD PEACE< ESPECIALLY IN
THE MIDDLE EAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Suzie Q
Ricky Wat
Anti-American Psychos (AAP) in the Middle east to harness the BIG BOMB?
The need of BIG BOMB was to end WW2...
Its powerful enough to END WW2 and OBLITERATE JAPAN 60 years ago, bombs
today are powerful enough to Destroy nations, and the entire world !
Ricky Wat
Here is some of the important stuff from this article:
*****President George W. Bush accused Iran of supplying powerful
roadside bombs to Iraqi insurgents responsible for the deaths of
Coalition troops.
*****"Such actions", Bush said, "along with Iran's support for
terrorism and its pursuit of nuclear weapons -- are increasingly
isolating Iran".
*****Bush added that America would continue to "rally the world to
confront these threats".
*****Bush highlighted the issue of Iran-backed Shiite militias
infiltrating the ranks of Iraq's police force.
Recently, like CNN/FOx yesterday, Bush dismissed magazines hyping up
American air-strike on Iran as 'wild speculation'.
http://www.knoxstudio.com/shns/story.cfm?pk=BUSH-IRAN-04-10-06&cat=WW
J. Pizzle
Cause he could have sworn there were WMDs in Iraq and they were gonna
use them on us... He also could have sworn that they were helping out
terrorists... But maybe hes changed his ways and stopped ordering the
leaking of info out of the White House. Maybe he's telling the truth
about all this stuff in Iran!
Ricky Wat
Iraq had continued its weapons of mass destruction programs in
defiance of UN resolutions and restrictions. Baghdad has chemical and
biological weapons as well as missiles with ranges in excess of UN
restrictions; if left unchecked, it probably will have a nuclear weapon
during this decade
Baghdad had begun renewed production of chemical warfare agents,
probably including mustard, sarin, cyclosarin, and VX. Its capability
was reduced during the UNSCOM inspections and is probably more limited
now than it was at the time of the Gulf war, although VX production and
agent storage life probably have been improved. Iraq repeatedly
violated its obligations under United Nations ssecurity ccouncil (UNSC)
which mandates destruction of Iraq's nuclear weapon capabilities.
Iraq repeatedly utilized CW against Iraqi Kurds in 1988 and against
Iran in 1983-1988 during the Iran-Iraq war. Halabja poison gas attack
was an incident during a major battle in the Iran-Iraq war when
chemical weapons were used by the Iraqi government forces to kill a
number of people in the Iraqi Kurdish town of Halabja (population
80,000). Estimates of casualties ranged big from several hundred to
7,000 people.
J. Pizzle
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/04/13/iran.nuclear/index.html?section=cnn_topstories
this article make a connection for me between the current war in iraq
and what may be our upcoming war. we are upset with iran, and again,
we are defying the international communitty and taking matters into our
own hands (as rice implies). It worries me that there are
similarities between our current situation and this new situation.
Jake
but I find this extremely distressing.
Iran Says It Will Share Nuclear Skills
By NAZILA FATHI
TEHRAN, April 25-Iran's supreme leader said today in a meeting with
the Sudanese president that Iran was ready to share its nuclear
technology with other countries.
"Iran's nuclear capability is one example of various scientific
capabilities in the country. The Islamic Republic of Iran is prepared
to transfer the experience, knowledge and technology of its
scientists," said the supreme religious leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei,
to President Omar al-Bashir of Sudan, IRNA news agency reported.
Mr. Khamenei's comments to the leader of Sudan, one of the most
unstable countries in Africa, came a few days ahead of the Friday
deadline by the United Nations Security Council for Iran to suspend its
sensitive uranium enrichment activities.
At a conference on its nuclear program in Tehran today, senior
officials rejected the demand and vowed that Iran will continue its
enrichment activities.
Iran's chief nuclear negotiator, Ali Larijani, said that if the
Security Council imposed sanctions, Iran will suspend its cooperation
with the United Nations nuclear agency, and any military strike aimed
at destroying its enrichment facilities will lead Iran to hide its
program.
"If you decide to use sanction against us, our relation with the agency
will be suspended," Mr. Larijani said. "Military action against Iran
will not lead to the closure of the program," he added. "If you take
harsh measures, we will hide this program. Then you cannot solve the
nuclear issue."
"You may inflict a loss on us but you will lose also," he warned.
Mr. Larijani said that Iran is willing to cooperate if its case is
returned to the International Atomic Energy Agency. "But do not expect
us to act otherwise if you drag the case to the Security Council," he
added.
Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani, a senior cleric and chairman of the
powerful Expediency Council, denounced the role of the nuclear agency
at the conference and said the I.A.E.A. has failed to support Iran's
program.
"I am not saying that the agency has had bad intentions," he said. "But
it has not fulfilled its duty to support countries to enjoy their right
to have nuclear technology," he added.
The head of Iran's atomic organization, Gholamreza Aghazadeh, left
Tehran for the I.A.E.A.'s headquarters in Vienna today, ISNA news
agency reported.
Ricky Wat
groundless speculation believe Iran will transfer nuclear weapons
technology to Sudan. It is a possibility, but never think of Iran in a
pessimistic sense that it endeavor to do bad bad things. It needs
nuclear facilities to produce energy for their growing economy. Iran
has become a very generous nation. Providing nuclear technology to aid
Afrkan third-world nations with their energy crisis. What a good friend
;-) hehe
J. Pizzle
good friend!
Jake
bomb the bastards.
Ricky Wat
Jake
Ricky Wat
Pakistan, and India, all of which have sophisticated nuclear weapons
programs already in place. Your just singling out Iran because its
allied with anti-American forces. Iran is simply a victim of western
media hype.
"wow, i heard in the news that Iran finished enriching uranium...the
final ingredient for the bomb!"
More like the final ingredient for solving the IRanian energy crisis.
IIf you blatantly adhere to the idea of Iranian crazed determination in
aquiring the bomb without hearing Iran's rational for its nuclear
development, then your not open to both sides argument. Peaceful
nuclear energy use is Iran's primary goal. There are no facts to
support Iranian pursuit of nuclear weapons. No facts No facts, just
hypotehtical speculation.
Jake
I would advocate for preemptive military action against them. they are
not, and are perfectly capable of full nuclear retaliation. they, with
the exception of North Korea, are our allies, and it would make as much
sense to attack france.
Iran, however, has been a country hostile to the united states for
twenty years. should they enrich enough uranium to create a viable
pile, one that can be fissioned, they could create power from it. it
might even be wiser and more profitable for them to do so, rather than
the alternative of creating a bomb and selling it to a radical terror
cell. but iran has never been a logical state to contend with, and is
fond of overstepping its bounds to gain cheap political power. they
are determined, and they will have their uranium. our military action
should start and stop at their offensive nuclear capability. should
they be unwise enough as to build ICBM sites in view of our satelites,
these should be bombed conventionally, and only tactically (nuclearly)
if they obviously intend to launch.
Ricky: When there are no facts, we must still plan for all
possibilities with speculation. We do this by examining the character
of those with whom we are dealing.
Ricky Wat
and was dealing with Al-Qaeda. Don't believe what our administrations
says anymore. President Bush plunged us into war with his WMD
accusations against Iraq and now look..... Absolutely no WMDs, no facts
to support Iraq had the alledge WMDs, just pure nonsense on America's
part.
The EXACT thing is happening to Iran, it is being accused of harboring
WMDs and dealing with radical terrorist groups....Do not believe Bush,
Do not forget in the lessons of the past, Do not believe factless
accusations, Do not plunge America into another war.
Your saying speculation is neccessary when no facts are available. That
may be true, I could agree with you that you must plan for all the
possibilities. Sanctions and implementing pre-emptive strikes is going
WAY beyond speculation... Its like you are confident that Iran has the
bomb, and that why you are striking her. Confidence based on no facts
and speculation is the way we entered Operation: Iraqi Freedom in 200?
I understand your argument about how hostile nations and anti-American
nations pose a big threat no matter way. It makes sense, but can you
explain a little more on how it applies for IRan's alledged peaceful
intentions with the nuclear power plants?
What about her energy crisis?
J. Pizzle
bomb bomb bomb nukes standpoint. Think of it this way. Iran is
refusing a UN order. They are openly defying the UN. If the UN cant
make anyone do anything, then what is the point of it? You cannot let
Iran get away with this. However, military action is not the answer.
My proposal is just to kick Iran out of the UN. They cant be a member
if they cant listen to the UN. It is ridiculous that they are openly
defying them. But we can't attack Iran, becuase that could lead to all
out war, or worse, Iran bombing Israel. We cannot impose serious
economic sanctions on them, #1 becase they have some oil, and #2
becuase its not fair to punish Iranians for ridiculous decisions their
leaders are making. I think it is not so much a problem of whether or
not Iran will have nucleur weapons at this point, but a problem of they
will continue to defy the international communitty. There needs to be
a peaceful way for the situation to be resolved in which no one is
hurt. Of course, this is the goal in every situation. I say we offer
to provide them with all the energy they want by building other sorts
of power plants there for them. Something like that.
Oh well, and I look forwad to seeing everyone at the river tommorow.
Bye bye.