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Dierdre Roussin

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I simply want to create a duplicate of the layer (just some lines and points). However, if I just do copy and paste, any modification of pasted layer will be applied to the original layer as well. So it's not really a duplicate, rather just creating another "view."

This does make a duplicate (modification does not affect the original), but it only duplicates some features, not all. Entire selection makes no difference. Can anyone let me know what additional settings I need to do? Please let me know if I am missing anything. The first image is the layer that I want to duplicate. And the second image is result of Export Feature.

The problem is, If i duplicate the part, when I modify the duplicated version, it also updates the original - which we do not want. We want to keep the original component and the two duplicates totally separate and not linked at all.

Move/copy, and click the create copy box. The system will not allow you to OK this unless you actually move it (i need to keep the duplicate in the same place) so I have to move it 3mm to the left, then move the duplicate 3mm back to where it started afterwards.

in 2016 I co hosted a class at Autodesk University in which I used the concepts of "configurations - light" that might address what you want to do. Hopefully the link allows you to view the Google docs document with the class handout.

I am attempting to create at least 2 options that will be quite different, and thought I could duplicate the original first floor plan, make changes to the duplicates, and have 3 separate floor plans to view. 1) the Original, 2) ADU Opt 1 and 3) ADU Opt 2.

I have been reading all kinds of possible solutions, but duplicating titles in the project panel, and copying titles in the sequence panel only creates a copy of the original, which when I edit it, changes the original too. The "New title based on current title" button also only creates a copy which when edited also edits the original. This is driving me crazy. Any ideas? I'm using Adobe Premiere Pro CC 2015. The title has a few different parts to it, I want to copy the entire title and its effects. So far the most I could do is copying the text but losing the effects. see image:

To create an independent copy of a title in the timeline, when the title was created in the Legacy Title Tool - In the timeline, holding down the Option (Alt) key, click down with the mouse on the original title and drag to a new position on the timeline, where you want the copy to appear. An independent copy of the original title will be created, that can be modified from without modifying the original.

Hi Meg The Dog - Thank you, though I have tried this before after reading about it as a possible solution - and I just tried it again after your comment - but if I do this, it Still edits the original title. Any ideas please? I can't believe its so difficult to do such a simple thing.

Hi Ann, I don't know if I'm making some huge obvious mistake, but I am pressing Alt and then dragging the title to create a copy of it on the timeline/sequence panel. But editing that new copy changes the original.

Also - when I use the "New title based on current title" button - you can also see in this second video that it does create a proper new copy - but the special motion effects are all lost. You may have to view full screen to read the text etc.

I don't understand what is wrong about the setup? If you mean making the titles from scratch, I do not know how to make these special titles from scratch, which is why I am using these premade titles. These premade titles are made to use like this, and they are newly imported - so I don't understand why I cannot simply copy them?

Thank you for the youtube link - I see that this works - but I want to use these titles with the special motion effects, that I do not know how to make myself - and surely it must be possible to simply just copy/duplicate them to create new copies with for new titles? I mean, its a really simple thing to want to do?

About your last post at 12-Jan-2018 10:39 , thank you, but that just seems to replace the second title with the title in the project window. I'm generally quite competent with software, I was using cyberlink powerdirector, and decided to give adobe premiere a go - its just a bit mind boggling that its so impossible to copy these pre-made titles in a quick and simple way. In a previous post I've put a link to the titles, its just still being moderated.

By the way, I downloaded these sample titles from Cinecom. They are cleverly animated titles; I can see why you would want to use them. I haven't watched that vendor's tutorial but through trial and error on my part, the only snag I find is that I have to customize the text in both "halves" of the alt-copied title clip; otherwise the second half won't show the same text I changed in the first half.

For example, let's try their "Simple Title 10", which animates the words ENTER and TEXT. To customize that one instance of the text animation, you just need to change the text in the first half ("intro") of the title sequence; the second half ("outro") displays your changed text also. Here I changed only the orange clips, per their Readme instructions, so that text left says HELLO and text right says WORLD:

However, when I alt-copy these clips to another part of the sequence (or to any sequence), the link is broken between the two halves, so if I only change the text in the orange clips, the outro does not reflect that change:

By the way, these title sequences are set to 1920 x 1080, which may not match the sequence you're working on. In that case, select all of these animated title clips in your sequence and right-click to reveal a context menu. Select Scale to Frame Size and your titles will appear correctly sized within the context of your own sequence.

Thank you very much Stefan for those tips, that is very helpful! Yes, that tutorial that you found for duplicating the titles basically says to open up the duplicate simple title/sequence, and inside there to copy the text and to delete the original text, so that you preserve the effects/motion but can create the brand new text/title without affecting the original title that you duplicated it from.

I have no training whatsoever in video making but this is the actual video I was working on which I was struggling with until now, which is finished, I had to modify the titles a bit adding a darkened background at times since the white text wasn't clear enough on the lighter backgrounds. Its not perfect but it did the job:

Btw, darkening the background to make titles pop more is a common practice; another is to give the actual letters a subtle drop-shadow so they'll stand out without having to have a darkened area behind the entire title.

I made a duplicate of a blueprint so that I could have two variants that share some core functionality, but the duplicate references the original in memory. Because of this, I cannot migrate the variant blueprint without also migrating the original. Is there any way to remove references within blueprints? Any help would be appreciated!

As you can see, I have duplicated a bubble several times. But I can't seem to figure out how to modify each bubble without affecting the rest. Since I duplicated the bubbles several times, any changes that are made to one, will visible clone for the rest.

Thank you for your post. So, are you suggesting that I import an illustrator file that is unique for every bubble that I would like to place in that scene. Then add that new vector in the duplicated layer? Here's a screen picture of a duplicated layer I just made.

Your workflow is a little misinformed. What you need to do is that a text layer above one of your bubbles, select the text layer and the bubble and pre-compose. Then repeat the process for each bubble. You'll end up with a bunch of different pre-comps. Create your animations in the pre-comps and you are good to go.

It looks like you've added the text in a precomp. As Rick says, you have to duplicate the precomp in the project panel and then bring the new precomp into your main composition. If you duplicate it in the timeline panel, it's just adding another reference to the composition.

You don't even need to do precomps like that. You could just put text layers in your main comp and parent them to bubbles (or, and here's a fun idea) tie the position of the text to the bubbles with expressions, but not the rotation. That way, the bubbles can fly around as much as you like, but the text stays upright.

Let me say this one more time. If you duplicate any layer in the timeline and that's asset also appears in the project panel then you have made a copy in the timeline only and the original remains unchanged.

To find the layer in the project panel right click on the layer name and select reveal in project. If the layer is not footage but a composition then duplicate it in the project panel. If it is footage then duplicating it in the project panel won't accomplish anything.

My lingo is a bit off being a newbie to AE, but Yes I was trying to communicate pre-comp. So what I have been doing is, going to the project panel, then finding a bubble then right clicking on the pre-comp and selecting New Comp from Selection then dragging that pre-comp into the Main Comp panel and then editing that pre-comp. I have been successful in doing this for the 4 on the left side, but not so much on the right just yet.

In the project window, twirl folders down until you find the bubbles you want. Not the comp that was made when you imported the Illustrator document, the actual layers in it. They'll be in the project window. Add them to your main comp. Position them. Scale them. Make text layers. Put the text layers above the appropriate bubbles. Done.

You are making this way too hard ... like Dave said. Create new comp from selection is not the way to duplicate a composition in the Project Panel. Select the composition in the Project panel then either use the keyboard shortcut Ctrl/Cmnd + D or use the Menu and select Edit>Duplicate:

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