cannot import from USB C (or A)

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Santiago Miro

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Jan 18, 2019, 10:56:29 PM1/18/19
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Hi 

I have some disks that the Brennan B2 could not/would not load; but that my Audiolab CD player could.
So I copied the CD .aiff files on my Mac, and neatly put them in a Music->Artist-> AlbumName folder naming scheme.

The B2 recognises my FAT32 USB "masss storage device" in USB C (also tried A).
The B2 GUI on my web browser also sees the folder, and when I open the "Music" folder, it sees the children folder (which also see the grandchildren folder; and also their tracks inside).

On the B2 USB menu -> Import from USB C... does nothing. Green LCD stays on for about 1 second then only the red, non-flashing.
On the Web interface, clicking on the icon at the end of teh folder name (or track name) that says "import" when hovering... also does nothing.

So... how does this work?
How do I get the .aiff music files from the UBS onto the B2?

Thx

S

Daniel Taylor

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Jan 19, 2019, 7:33:52 AM1/19/19
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I know the B2 will play files of type WAV, FLAC, MP3, and AAC.  (That's according to the Brennan website, which I cannot say whether it's up to date or not.)  So if AIFF is not supported, that would explain the behavior you're seeing.

Santiago Miro

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Jan 20, 2019, 8:24:46 PM1/20/19
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Daniel

Thanks for your reply.

The .aiff file is what I got when I copied the CD contents onto my desktop (again, because the B2 CD reader was unable to read them, yet my mac was).
I will hope that Mr Brennan looks at this post, to confirm your thoughts.

Othrwise, any idea how to convert the .aiff in a lossless format that the Brennan will accept?

Thx

S

Santiago Miro

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Jan 20, 2019, 8:27:14 PM1/20/19
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Oh, and by the way, isn't it odd, if .aiff is not supported by the B2, that I can  actually see the tracks listed within the folders on the B2 web interface?

And also... If the .aiff files are what is on the CD, isn't that what the B@ imports when ripping a CD?

Thx

Andrew Wilson

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Jan 21, 2019, 4:51:56 AM1/21/19
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Hi Santiago

Aiff is the Apple uncompressed Apple lossless file format (I suppose more or less equivalent to Windows' wav files). As Daniel suggests, they're not playable by the B2. You can convert them to wav files (uncompressed) or FLAC (lossless compressed) or mp3 files (lossy compressed) using a program like dBpoweramp on your Mac, then transfer them to the B2. Either format would be playable by the B2.

Mike Keating

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Jan 21, 2019, 9:27:56 AM1/21/19
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This probably explains why I have so many albums which went AWOL during my first transfer.
Have to say, this is big let down by Brennan if true as I have been saving my CDs to my iMac as .aiff files for years. Why develop a system which effectively excludes Apple Mac users (a pretty large community)?
I don’t recall reading anything about this in the Brennan literature.

PMB

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Jan 21, 2019, 3:51:59 PM1/21/19
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Hi Santiago and Mike,

I'm not too familiar with ripping CDs to iTunes but I would have thought it would allow you to set what format you ripped to e.g. rip to AIFF, rip to FLAC, etc. The B2 doesn't support AIFF files but as suggested there are programs that will convert between AIFF and other formats, such as FLAC.

The B2 will play WAV, FLAC, MP3, AAC and ALAC (.m4a) files.

The B2 UI will display titles of folders containing AIFF files, as these are just text.


Paul
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Santiago Miro

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Mar 16, 2019, 2:44:29 PM3/16/19
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Dear Paul

Thanks for your answer.
Can you explain why you decided not to support AIFF?
Indeed I also have a significant amount of CD's on iTunes that I would like to transfer to Brennan.

However, in the case I was explaining above, I tried to burn the CD's on the B2. B2 would stop in the middle and eject the disk.
All tracks were readable by my Audiolab CD player.
I popped it in my Mac; they were also playable (so some issue with the CD reader on the B2).
So I figured I would copy the CD tracks onto a folder from the CD onto my Mac; and then back on the B2.
These came--from the CD, not iTunes, as AIFF. (That is, when I pop the CDin the Mac and open the CD folder, the tracks are there as AIFF--I have done nothing to them).

Are there 2 formats for each track on a CD???

Thx

S

Daniel Taylor

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Mar 16, 2019, 5:37:24 PM3/16/19
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Santiago,
Even though your have a Mac, you should be able to rip (copy) the tracks from CD in their native format (WAV).  And if you have the right program, you can probably rip them directly to FLAC or MP3 if you want to.  Many of us use dBpoweramp CD Ripper to do that.  You could investigate if they have a version for Mac.  If you rip using iTunes, then logically, it will use an Apple format.

PMB

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Mar 17, 2019, 5:41:38 PM3/17/19
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Hi Santiago,

As far as I know AIFF is an issue with licensing and payment to Apple.

Not sure why the tracks on the CD you mention are being shown as AIFF - the CD standard is WAV - the MAC may be displaying AIFF as this is the default setting for iTunes. Might be worth checking the settings.

Have you tried the CD in a PC to see what format it thinks it is?

Paul
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Mark Fishman

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Mar 18, 2019, 6:32:53 PM3/18/19
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On a Mac, a very good ripper/encoder (and also format converter) is XLD.

The reason the tracks on a CD are shown as AIFF on a Mac is the same reason they might be shown as WAV on a Windows machine: it's lying to you. An alternate way of saying that is it's telling you what the format of the resulting files might be if you rip them without specifying any other format.

The tracks on a CD are NOT files. An audio CD is a continuous stream of scrambled and encoded audio samples. The sectors have no headers, there's no directory. Those exist only on DATA CDs. An audio CD will seem to be different depending on what tool you use to look at it; unless it's an audio CD player, the tool lies to make the average person feel warm and fuzzy.

AIFF, while it might be a licensed format, is actually very similar to WAV. The file header is a little different, and the byte order is different, but it's a lossless uncompressed format just like WAV -- XLD will happily convert it to anything else you're likely to need (WAV, FLAC, MP3, AAC, ALAC, etc.).


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