Itseems to me that no one is tuning steady state. Everywhere I look it's just ramp runs, mostly focusing on full throttle and the same AFR everywhere, and almost no one is tuning ignition timing at all. Also, everything (dyno, tuning software etc.) only displays AFR which is stupid since I learned Lambda from start. But I digress.
*this is actually one of the things I REALLY don't care for - many of these 'tuners' will just give best power on engines that have had a cool-down between runs, and will only give potential problems if used under sustained loads, when heat soak and other issues such as higher coolant temp's will compromise the 'tune'. It may be perfectly fine for a quick 1/4 mile sprint, but otherwise...
It allows one to make incremental changes to the parameters, like fuelling, timing, boost, etc and also monitor the changes and affects of other things like coolant and charge temperatures have on the engine in real time.
I agree, never really understood the people that would spend 10, 20, 30 grand - or even more - on their engine and vehicle, yet baulk at another one or two hundred to further optimise their investment. Heck, I've known people like that who'd spend more than that on tyres for just one event!
This may be an old thread but your impression of the current motorcycle tuning industry is the same that I have. I went to national race event and heard the mobile dyno doing ramp after ramp run. On the internet, talking to trackday riders, all I see or hear is ramp runs and WOT tuning. I have been looking into purchasing a Mainline Dyno with steady state as this seems to be a hole in the motorcycle tuning market. My own bike needs light load tuning the most as its a light switch trying to lightly apply throttle when cornering on track. Ignition tuning seems to be rarely addressed or done by trial and error. Many people just download a tune, throw it in and hope for the best. Or maybe I'm just misinformed.
Thanks for adding to this thread. I have done all that you have mentioned. The bike does have ETV and I have greatly edited that map. I have started to reduce ignition timing in the low load/low throttle inputs as well to see if it makes a difference. I don't get many chances to ride the bike as its a track only bike and I'm not good at "feeling" what the bike is doing as most of my focus while on track is line selection, braking points and just generally trying to go faster. I would love to have data logging but that's currently not in my budget.
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Motorcycle tune-ups are needed now and again to keep a bike in good running condition. You might notice over time that the bike's performance has dropped and it just doesn't run quite like it used to, which probably means that it's overdue.
We naturally want to get as many years as possible out of a motorcycle, and regular maintenance is the best way to keep it running as smoothly as possible. Tune-ups are small changes that can fix things like fuel economy, acceleration, and overall performance.
Think of a tune-up as just one step above regular maintenance. Changing your engine oil and pumping the tires are one thing, but a tune-up consists of things that are only performed on the rare occasion.
Next, come the brake pads. For this part, you'll need to take off your wheel, which can be done with minimal tools. Once the wheels are off the bike, remove the old brake pads, replace them with new ones, then reinstall the wheels. The process can vary with different bike models, so check how it works with your specific model.
Changing the brake fluid is a bit trickier. While draining fluid you introduce air into the brake lines. This air remains in the lines when you add new fluid until you bleed the brakes. Bleeding the brakes is pretty straightforward and just requires you to open and close a bleeder valve while pumping the brakes.
Now you can lubricate and tighten the chain. This is an important step that can be done without loads of tools either. Clean off any rust and then re-lubricate the chain after you've cleaned it. This helps it last as long as possible.
Tuning the carburetor is the toughest step. You can't perform this part on a cold engine so heat it up first. Start by warming your bike up and letting it run for 10 minutes, then find the air/fuel adjustment screw.
Turning these screws affects the air/fuel ratio of your carburetor. For best performance, you want 14 molecules of air for every 1 molecule of fuel. Obviously, this number is nearly impossible to reach exactly, so just try to get as close as you can.
Most carburetors have an idle screw. Turn the idle screw until the engine is idling at around 1200 rpm or until it sounds like it's running smoothly. The key is to find the sweet spot. The engine shouldn't sound like it's sputtering or constantly revving high, so in other words the screw shouldn't be turned too high or too low.
Generally speaking, you can perform a tune-up every six months, but there's no rule to it. You should tune your carburetor whenever the bike doesn't seem to be running quite like it used to, or just make a habit out of doing a top-to-bottom tune-up on a regular schedule.
If the bike won't start at all, there are several ways you can look into the problem. The most obvious is to make sure the bike is in neutral and the kickstand is up. Some bikes have safety features where they won't start if the bike is in gear or the kickstand is down.
Check the battery as well. Make sure the battery connections are secure and free of corrosion. If the battery is low on charge, try jump-starting the motorcycle using jumper cables and a car battery or a portable jump-starter. Of course, if the battery is old or damaged then it might be time for a replacement.
It seems obvious but make sure there's enough fuel in the tank. If the bike has a fuel valve, check that it's in the correct position. If you suspect a fuel delivery problem, check for any clogged fuel lines or a dirty fuel filter.
So as you can see, it doesn't take an engineering degree to tune up a motorcycle. Sure, you'll need to take some time to learn the process and secure the parts, but it can all be accomplished with a few simple tools.
Exactly how much HP a tune adds to a motorcycle can depend on the condition of the bike, engine configuration, the model, and the level of tune-up performed. A well-executed tune-up can give a noticeable improvement in horsepower, but the exact gains can vary.
On average, a tune can add anywhere from a few horsepowers to double-digit gains. This is only an approximation though. If you have very specific needs, it might be best to consult a good tuner or a performance shop.
How exactly to know if your motorcycle needs a tune-up is all about the performance. If you notice that it just doesn't seem to go as it used to, this might be a sign that the bike is due for some tuning.
If you want to get many years out of a bike and keep it performing at optimal levels, it is necessary to tune up a motorcycle now and then. No one is saying you should be working on the bike every week, but a fixed maintenance schedule will increase the bike's life and performance.
The carburetor is a vital performance component, so how do you tune a carburetor on a motorcycle? Start by warming your bike up and letting it run for 10 minutes, then find the air/fuel adjustment screw.
Most carburetors have an idle screw. Turn the idle screw until the engine is idling at around 1200 rpm or until it sounds like it's running smooth. The key is to find the sweet spot. The engine shouldn't sound like it's sputtering or constantly revving high, so not too high or too low.
There are several signs to know if your carburetor needs adjusting. Poor fuel economy, a rough or inconsistent throttle response, and low overall performance can all indicate that a carburetor needs some work.
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