Tuneblade can't connect to airport express after airport express firmware update

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m8p...@gmail.com

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Sep 7, 2018, 4:27:53 PM9/7/18
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Hello,
I am on a Windows10 pro computer.
TuneBlade was connecting fine to my airport express until recently but:

After a recent firmware update for my airport express 802.11n, (second generation}, version 7.8, Tuneblade recognizes the airport express but stays disconnected and does not  connect when I push the play button. It only flickers for a split of a second attempting to connect and continues to show "disconnected"

iTunes correctly finds and plays via the airport express without any problems!

Yes, I made sure a soundsource = internet streaming was playing.
I also checked that no other sources like iTunes were connected to the Airport Express at the same time......
I disconnected and re-powered the airport express,
I turned off and on my Wifi connection.
I completely uninstalled and re-installed and re-registered my paid TuneBlade.
Of course I also restarted my PC.

I even tried a manual connection using the same data as seen by TuneBlade.
Non of it made a difference.

Please help me get TuneBlade to connect to the Airport Express again.

Below is my latest TuneBlade log file, I also attached it.

Thank you,
M.

Microsoft Windows NT 6.2.9200.0, Cores:4
Version:1.7.3.0
Directory: C:\Program Files (x86)\TuneBlade\TuneBlade
64 bit OS
DSM Init Enter
High Resolution Timer:True
resendThreadEntry - Enter
updateDevices - Enter
processPacketThreadEntry - Enter
System Icon Size is: {Width=20, Height=20}
Device Controller: Service Found:D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express
DSM GetSettings Enter D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
ConnectToggle - Enter
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
Device Status: Disconnected
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
ConnectToggle - Exit
Device Controller: New Device Added: D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
connect - Enter
New Version is available: 1.7.3.0
Current Version is the latest
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
bonjour_ServiceResolved - Enter
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
IP Address resolved to: 192.168.1.4
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
 
, TXT Record = [cn=0,1, da=true, et=0,4, ft=0x445D0A00,0x1C340, fv=p20.78000.12, md=2, am=AirPort10,115, sf=0x4, tp=UDP, vn=65537, vs=366.0, pk=126dadf0ff18442e803c31319835ef4b8047c9e174f90b5a41a2d8a38f5ebde4]
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
populateValuesFromTXTRecord - Enter
SIG:DevD003_AirPort10,115
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
sf:0x4
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
populateValuesFromTXTRecord - Exit
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
bonjour_ServiceResolved - Exit
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
Encryption Type is None
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
connectTcpClient - Enter
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
connectTcpClient - Exit
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
Packet Sent:
OPTIONS * RTSP/1.0
CSeq: 1
User-Agent: TuneBlade/1.0 (Windows)
Client-Instance: 56B6CB929BB20486
DACP-ID: 15434A7338566AE5
Active-Remote: 1138160046


D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
Packet Received:RTSP/1.0 200 OK
Public: ANNOUNCE, SETUP, RECORD, PAUSE, FLUSH, FLUSHBUFFERED, TEARDOWN, OPTIONS, POST, GET, PUT
Server: AirTunes/366.0
CSeq: 1


D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
0, Avg: 0
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
Packet Sent:
ANNOUNCE rtsp://192.168.1.24/3121287335 RTSP/1.0
CSeq: 2
Content-Type: application/sdp
Content-Length: 182
User-Agent: TuneBlade/1.0 (Windows)
Client-Instance: 56B6CB929BB20486
DACP-ID: 15434A7338566AE5
Active-Remote: 1138160046

v=0
o=iTunes 3121287335 0 IN IP4 192.168.1.4
s=iTunes
c=IN IP4 192.168.1.4
t=0 0
m=audio 0 RTP/AVP 96
a=rtpmap:96 AppleLossless
a=fmtp:96 352 0 16 40 10 14 2 255 0 0 44100


D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
Packet Received:RTSP/1.0 403 Forbidden
Content-Length: 0
Server: AirTunes/366.0
CSeq: 2


D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
0, Avg: 0
SIG:Err_RespCode4_RTSP/1.0 403 Forbidden
Content-Length: 0
Server: AirTunes/366.0
CSeq: 2


D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
TuneBlade.exe Error: 0 : Err_RespCode4_RTSP/1.0 403 Forbidden
Content-Length: 0
Server: AirTunes/366.0
CSeq: 2


D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
TuneBlade.exe Error: 0 : Error in Response to Options
SIG:Dev_D003ERR_RTSP/1.0 403 Forbidden
Content-Length: 0
Server: AirTunes/366.0
CSeq: 2


SIG:Dev_D003_AnnounceFailed
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
Clean Up Enter
UnregisterDevice - Enter
UnregisterDevice - Exit - List is empty already.
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
CloseConnection Enter
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
CloseConnection Exit
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
Clean Up Exit
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
connect - Exit due to error
TuneBlade.exe Error: 0 : DACPServer: None:True
TuneBlade.exe Error: 0 : HTTPRemote: None:True
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D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
ConnectToggle - Enter
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
Device Status: Disconnected
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
ConnectToggle - Exit
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
connect - Enter
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
connectTcpClient - Enter
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
connectTcpClient - Exit
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
Packet Sent:
OPTIONS * RTSP/1.0
CSeq: 1
User-Agent: TuneBlade/1.0 (Windows)
Client-Instance: 56B6CB929BB20486
DACP-ID: 15434A7338566AE5
Active-Remote: 1138160046


D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
Packet Received:RTSP/1.0 200 OK
Public: ANNOUNCE, SETUP, RECORD, PAUSE, FLUSH, FLUSHBUFFERED, TEARDOWN, OPTIONS, POST, GET, PUT
Server: AirTunes/366.0
CSeq: 1


D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
0, Avg: 0
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
Packet Sent:
ANNOUNCE rtsp://192.168.1.24/3121287335 RTSP/1.0
CSeq: 2
Content-Type: application/sdp
Content-Length: 182
User-Agent: TuneBlade/1.0 (Windows)
Client-Instance: 56B6CB929BB20486
DACP-ID: 15434A7338566AE5
Active-Remote: 1138160046

v=0
o=iTunes 3121287335 0 IN IP4 192.168.1.4
s=iTunes
c=IN IP4 192.168.1.4
t=0 0
m=audio 0 RTP/AVP 96
a=rtpmap:96 AppleLossless
a=fmtp:96 352 0 16 40 10 14 2 255 0 0 44100


D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
Packet Received:RTSP/1.0 403 Forbidden
Content-Length: 0
Server: AirTunes/366.0
CSeq: 2


D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
0, Avg: 0
SIG:Err_RespCode4_RTSP/1.0 403 Forbidden
Content-Length: 0
Server: AirTunes/366.0
CSeq: 2


D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
TuneBlade.exe Error: 0 : Err_RespCode4_RTSP/1.0 403 Forbidden
Content-Length: 0
Server: AirTunes/366.0
CSeq: 2


D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
TuneBlade.exe Error: 0 : Error in Response to Options
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SIG:Dev_D003ERR_RTSP/1.0 403 Forbidden
Content-Length: 0
Server: AirTunes/366.0
CSeq: 2


SIG:Dev_D003_AnnounceFailed
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
Clean Up Enter
UnregisterDevice - Enter
UnregisterDevice - Exit - List is empty already.
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
CloseConnection Enter
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
CloseConnection Exit
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
Clean Up Exit
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
connect - Exit due to error
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
ConnectToggle - Enter
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
Device Status: Disconnected
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
ConnectToggle - Exit
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
connect - Enter
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
connectTcpClient - Enter
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
connectTcpClient - Exit
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
Packet Sent:
OPTIONS * RTSP/1.0
CSeq: 1
User-Agent: TuneBlade/1.0 (Windows)
Client-Instance: 56B6CB929BB20486
DACP-ID: 15434A7338566AE5
Active-Remote: 1138160046


D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
Packet Received:RTSP/1.0 200 OK
Public: ANNOUNCE, SETUP, RECORD, PAUSE, FLUSH, FLUSHBUFFERED, TEARDOWN, OPTIONS, POST, GET, PUT
Server: AirTunes/366.0
CSeq: 1


D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
12, Avg: 2
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
Packet Sent:
ANNOUNCE rtsp://192.168.1.24/3121287335 RTSP/1.0
CSeq: 2
Content-Type: application/sdp
Content-Length: 182
User-Agent: TuneBlade/1.0 (Windows)
Client-Instance: 56B6CB929BB20486
DACP-ID: 15434A7338566AE5
Active-Remote: 1138160046

v=0
o=iTunes 3121287335 0 IN IP4 192.168.1.4
s=iTunes
c=IN IP4 192.168.1.4
t=0 0
m=audio 0 RTP/AVP 96
a=rtpmap:96 AppleLossless
a=fmtp:96 352 0 16 40 10 14 2 255 0 0 44100


D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
Packet Received:RTSP/1.0 403 Forbidden
Content-Length: 0
Server: AirTunes/366.0
CSeq: 2


D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
5, Avg: 2
SIG:Err_RespCode4_RTSP/1.0 403 Forbidden
Content-Length: 0
Server: AirTunes/366.0
CSeq: 2


D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
TuneBlade.exe Error: 0 : Err_RespCode4_RTSP/1.0 403 Forbidden
Content-Length: 0
Server: AirTunes/366.0
CSeq: 2


D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
TuneBlade.exe Error: 0 : Error in Response to Options
SIG:Dev_D003ERR_RTSP/1.0 403 Forbidden
Content-Length: 0
Server: AirTunes/366.0
CSeq: 2


SIG:Dev_D003_AnnounceFailed
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
Clean Up Enter
UnregisterDevice - Enter
UnregisterDevice - Exit - List is empty already.
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
CloseConnection Enter
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
CloseConnection Exit
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
Clean Up Exit
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
connect - Exit due to error
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D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
ConnectToggle - Enter
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
Device Status: Disconnected
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
ConnectToggle - Exit
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
connect - Enter
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
connectTcpClient - Enter
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
connectTcpClient - Exit
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
Packet Sent:
OPTIONS * RTSP/1.0
CSeq: 1
User-Agent: TuneBlade/1.0 (Windows)
Client-Instance: 56B6CB929BB20486
DACP-ID: 15434A7338566AE5
Active-Remote: 1138160046


D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
Packet Received:RTSP/1.0 200 OK
Public: ANNOUNCE, SETUP, RECORD, PAUSE, FLUSH, FLUSHBUFFERED, TEARDOWN, OPTIONS, POST, GET, PUT
Server: AirTunes/366.0
CSeq: 1


D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
10, Avg: 3
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
Packet Sent:
ANNOUNCE rtsp://192.168.1.24/3121287335 RTSP/1.0
CSeq: 2
Content-Type: application/sdp
Content-Length: 182
User-Agent: TuneBlade/1.0 (Windows)
Client-Instance: 56B6CB929BB20486
DACP-ID: 15434A7338566AE5
Active-Remote: 1138160046

v=0
o=iTunes 3121287335 0 IN IP4 192.168.1.4
s=iTunes
c=IN IP4 192.168.1.4
t=0 0
m=audio 0 RTP/AVP 96
a=rtpmap:96 AppleLossless
a=fmtp:96 352 0 16 40 10 14 2 255 0 0 44100


D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
Packet Received:RTSP/1.0 403 Forbidden
Content-Length: 0
Server: AirTunes/366.0
CSeq: 2


D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
3, Avg: 4
SIG:Err_RespCode4_RTSP/1.0 403 Forbidden
Content-Length: 0
Server: AirTunes/366.0
CSeq: 2


D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
TuneBlade.exe Error: 0 : Err_RespCode4_RTSP/1.0 403 Forbidden
Content-Length: 0
Server: AirTunes/366.0
CSeq: 2


D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
TuneBlade.exe Error: 0 : Error in Response to Options
SIG:Dev_D003ERR_RTSP/1.0 403 Forbidden
Content-Length: 0
Server: AirTunes/366.0
CSeq: 2


SIG:Dev_D003_AnnounceFailed
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
Clean Up Enter
UnregisterDevice - Enter
UnregisterDevice - Exit - List is empty already.
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
CloseConnection Enter
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
CloseConnection Exit
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
Clean Up Exit
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
connect - Exit due to error
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D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
ConnectToggle - Enter
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
Device Status: Disconnected
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
ConnectToggle - Exit
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
connect - Enter
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
connectTcpClient - Enter
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
connectTcpClient - Exit
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
Packet Sent:
OPTIONS * RTSP/1.0
CSeq: 1
User-Agent: TuneBlade/1.0 (Windows)
Client-Instance: 56B6CB929BB20486
DACP-ID: 15434A7338566AE5
Active-Remote: 1138160046


D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
Packet Received:RTSP/1.0 200 OK
Public: ANNOUNCE, SETUP, RECORD, PAUSE, FLUSH, FLUSHBUFFERED, TEARDOWN, OPTIONS, POST, GET, PUT
Server: AirTunes/366.0
CSeq: 1


D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
13, Avg: 6
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
Packet Sent:
ANNOUNCE rtsp://192.168.1.24/3121287335 RTSP/1.0
CSeq: 2
Content-Type: application/sdp
Content-Length: 182
User-Agent: TuneBlade/1.0 (Windows)
Client-Instance: 56B6CB929BB20486
DACP-ID: 15434A7338566AE5
Active-Remote: 1138160046

v=0
o=iTunes 3121287335 0 IN IP4 192.168.1.4
s=iTunes
c=IN IP4 192.168.1.4
t=0 0
m=audio 0 RTP/AVP 96
a=rtpmap:96 AppleLossless
a=fmtp:96 352 0 16 40 10 14 2 255 0 0 44100


D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
Packet Received:RTSP/1.0 403 Forbidden
Content-Length: 0
Server: AirTunes/366.0
CSeq: 2


D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
2, Avg: 6
SIG:Err_RespCode4_RTSP/1.0 403 Forbidden
Content-Length: 0
Server: AirTunes/366.0
CSeq: 2


D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
TuneBlade.exe Error: 0 : Err_RespCode4_RTSP/1.0 403 Forbidden
Content-Length: 0
Server: AirTunes/366.0
CSeq: 2


D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
TuneBlade.exe Error: 0 : Error in Response to Options
SIG:Dev_D003ERR_RTSP/1.0 403 Forbidden
Content-Length: 0
Server: AirTunes/366.0
CSeq: 2


SIG:Dev_D003_AnnounceFailed
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
Clean Up Enter
UnregisterDevice - Enter
UnregisterDevice - Exit - List is empty already.
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
CloseConnection Enter
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
CloseConnection Exit
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
Clean Up Exit
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
connect - Exit due to error
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D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
ConnectToggle - Enter
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
Device Status: Disconnected
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
ConnectToggle - Exit
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
connect - Enter
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
connectTcpClient - Enter
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
connectTcpClient - Exit
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
Packet Sent:
OPTIONS * RTSP/1.0
CSeq: 1
User-Agent: TuneBlade/1.0 (Windows)
Client-Instance: 56B6CB929BB20486
DACP-ID: 15434A7338566AE5
Active-Remote: 1138160046


D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
Packet Received:RTSP/1.0 200 OK
Public: ANNOUNCE, SETUP, RECORD, PAUSE, FLUSH, FLUSHBUFFERED, TEARDOWN, OPTIONS, POST, GET, PUT
Server: AirTunes/366.0
CSeq: 1


D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
16, Avg: 8
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
Packet Sent:
ANNOUNCE rtsp://192.168.1.24/3121287335 RTSP/1.0
CSeq: 2
Content-Type: application/sdp
Content-Length: 182
User-Agent: TuneBlade/1.0 (Windows)
Client-Instance: 56B6CB929BB20486
DACP-ID: 15434A7338566AE5
Active-Remote: 1138160046

v=0
o=iTunes 3121287335 0 IN IP4 192.168.1.4
s=iTunes
c=IN IP4 192.168.1.4
t=0 0
m=audio 0 RTP/AVP 96
a=rtpmap:96 AppleLossless
a=fmtp:96 352 0 16 40 10 14 2 255 0 0 44100


D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
Packet Received:RTSP/1.0 403 Forbidden
Content-Length: 0
Server: AirTunes/366.0
CSeq: 2


D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
3, Avg: 7
SIG:Err_RespCode4_RTSP/1.0 403 Forbidden
Content-Length: 0
Server: AirTunes/366.0
CSeq: 2


D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
TuneBlade.exe Error: 0 : Err_RespCode4_RTSP/1.0 403 Forbidden
Content-Length: 0
Server: AirTunes/366.0
CSeq: 2


D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
TuneBlade.exe Error: 0 : Error in Response to Options
SIG:Dev_D003ERR_RTSP/1.0 403 Forbidden
Content-Length: 0
Server: AirTunes/366.0
CSeq: 2


SIG:Dev_D003_AnnounceFailed
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
Clean Up Enter
UnregisterDevice - Enter
UnregisterDevice - Exit - List is empty already.
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
CloseConnection Enter
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
CloseConnection Exit
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
Clean Up Exit
D0034B5F745C@Apartment AirPort Express:
connect - Exit due to error
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2018-09-07-16-13-37.log
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jansfo...@gmail.com

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Sep 8, 2018, 10:28:25 AM9/8/18
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I got the same issue.
I toke also the same measures. 
2018-09-07-01-01-29.log

TuneBlade Support

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Sep 8, 2018, 10:37:25 AM9/8/18
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Hi,

Thank you for writing to us. 

We can confirm this is a general issue affecting all TuneBlade users with the latest AirPort Express update. 

We hope to resolve this soon. We'll keep you posted on this thread. 

Feel free to check with us on the progress anytime. 

Thanks,
The TuneBlade Team

m8p...@gmail.com

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Sep 14, 2018, 11:15:55 AM9/14/18
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Can you please let us know what the status with your efforts to address this problem is?!

I purchased TuneBlade specifically to stream from my Windows10 pc to the airport express.

Thank you,
Mathias

TuneBlade Support

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Sep 17, 2018, 6:33:52 AM9/17/18
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Hi, 

Thank you for checking with us. 

We can confirm, TuneBlade has been tested to work with the latest firmware of AirPort Express in our development environment. 

We'll be testing and releasing later this week. 

Thank you for your patience. 

Thanks,
The TuneBlade Team

eel...@gmail.com

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Sep 26, 2018, 6:53:50 AM9/26/18
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We would appreciate informing us until we have to wait for them to solve the problem. We pay for tuneblade and you are obliged to answer us. It has been almost a month and they only ask us for patience. Thank you

TuneBlade Support

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Sep 26, 2018, 9:01:22 PM9/26/18
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Hi, 

Apologies for the delay. 

You may download the pre-release version which fixes the compatibly problem with AirPort Express with firmware 7.8: 


This build also fixes compatibility problems with Apple TV 4/4k (latest firmware). TuneBlade can now stream to Apple TV 4/4k with any active security mode (password/one-time pin/every-time pin).

If you face any issues with this release, please let us know. 

Our apologies, we should have acted more swiftly. 

Thanks,
The TuneBlade Team


lucg...@gmail.com

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Dec 22, 2018, 10:07:01 AM12/22/18
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1.7.7 works for me.  had to do full uninstall of 1.8 then reboot and discovered my devices automatically both gen 1 and 2 airport expresses
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