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Drew

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Aug 25, 2005, 10:08:43 PM8/25/05
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Last week, driving a bro to the city (Girvan) I saw a fabulous pair of
sundogs. I've seen them a few times and though they are attributed to
ice crystals most of my sightings have been in summer, including a hot
Croatian evening. Strange thing is that bro had never seen them before,
nor all the people with me in Croatia.

We do of course in this area get very complex atmospherics but the
question is has anyone else ever noticed them? Can't really not, I
would have thought. Especially Phil where atmospherics are rather
dissimilar to Scotland.

http://www.sundog.clara.co.uk/halo/dogphots.htm

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Norman

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Aug 26, 2005, 4:33:42 AM8/26/05
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You have caught me out this time Drew, I have never seen sun dogs
before and neither has Chris, nor her daughter Vicky who has just come
around.. They are a truly beautiful phenomenon. They appear to be a rim
of a lens effect and what is inside seems clearer than outside in some
of the photographs. I wish I had seen them for real.

The picture in my current desktop wallpaper is also the result of
extreme weather although not a natural phenomenon I must admit. We are
all familiar with solids or liquids exploding when they almost
instantaneously become gaseous but have you ever heard of explosive
freezing before, not me. Have a look at some beautiful Arctic imagery
in:

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.arcticphoto.co.uk/se

and scroll down to photo RV 0019-29

The person in the photo has thrown a pot of boiling water high into the
air when the surrounding temperature is below minus 53°C with
startling results.

Also new to me and mentioned in an associated article is what the
Russian Eskimos call the 'effect of the whispering stars'. At
temperatures below minus 53°C ice crystals form from ones own breath
with an accompanying sound; I suppose the opposite effect of
decrepitation. Because sound travels further in extreme cold, this
becomes noticeable in groups. A group of Arctic horses can produce a
whooshing sound which has been likened to a grain silo emptying.

Nature has some wonderful effects which unfortunately, few of us will
ever experience.

Btw is anybody going to admit to what wallpaper they have on their
desktop, could be an interesting subject?

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Phil

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Aug 26, 2005, 6:30:18 AM8/26/05
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Bloody amazing. Can't say that I have seen same. I can only recall the
occasional and very large "halo" about the moon.
>From memory, it tends to appear on a very cold and perhaps foggy night.

I did witness an image greater than any oil painting ever seen. I flew
back from Sydney tonight parallel to the sunset as I headed south to
home. Wish I could have taken a photo. ROY.G.BIV would have been proud.
A silhouette of the mountains against a crimson sky fading out to
orange/yellow with a clear deep blue sky above that.

Like a joke or a circumstance of serendipity, you just had to be there
to appreciate what I mean. Particularly so, as I sipped a fine red wine
after enjoying the pleasures of the business class salmon salad and
fresh bread roll at the pleasure of the discounted rate offered by my
company of employ.

Then I thought about the children born into poverty and sickness. This
simply is not fair nor equitable.

Phil

Drew

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Aug 26, 2005, 8:35:02 PM8/26/05
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The link didn't actually take my computer directly to the images
Norman but got there. Cool pictures. Got a couple of sundog ones there
too and they do tend to get associated with other related phenomenon
like the halo. The ones I've seen have been purely a short, bright
rainbow section. In all cases there have been complex thin layer clouds
so I had wondered if it was back projection, and in a sense I guess it
is because rainbows don't show up against clear sky. The one in
Croatia was just on one side, presumably because the clouds were too
thick on the other side. But they seem to last for considerably longer
than rainbows -- ten, fifteen minutes. Maybe though, since no one else
has seen them, one can infer that I spend a lot of time just looking at
the sky.

That freezing water trick. Wonder what it's like when you pee in such
extreme cold? Well, apart from the obvious of course :-)

One night, after a long sustained period of frost, I drove back from my
girlfriend's house. Over the days, the ice crystals had grown big and
every one of them reflected the car's headlights. Just a constant
sparkling of thousands of points of light as I drove along the dark
country road. Truly magical. Bleeding cold too, mind.

And my desktop picture? Um. Mega-boring I'm afraid -- none. Yes I
have had a succession of significant people, machines and gorgeous
nymphs, from Kelly LeBrock to Eliza Dushku (Faith in Buffy -- the
screaming little brat in 'True Lies', but hey did she turn out to
be a one woman droolfest) but they got too distracting so even the
Ducatis got erased. It's the ascetic in me.

I too have seen some beut visions from aircraft. End up with a sore
nose pressing it against the window, even if only watching the
plane's shadow inside the rainbow. Thankfully I manage to divorce
times of indulgent pleasure from those of my fellow creatures, go
insane otherwise. Feeling a bit guilty at the mo too 'cos I have just
dispatched our plaguing squirrel (pronounced sqwiwwow darn saaf, London
town). Had to go though.

On a lighter note, there are apparently 10 types of people in the world
-- those who understand binary numbers, and those who don't. Ha ha ha
ha ha ha.

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Phil

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Sep 1, 2005, 9:05:52 AM9/1/05
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Norman,

My computer and home are adorned with photographs of Linda.
Unfortunately I will have to pack most away when I move into
the humble caravan. The majority are photos taken by me
or are professional shots, during her body shaping contests. All
tasteful of course, yet she is clad only in the competition bikini
in each. She is the only lady I know who can prove that she has
the second best body in the world in her age group. She has a
certificate and trophy to prove her winning the Australian also.

I saved so many shortcuts on the computer desktop that I had to
keep bunching them to the outskirts so as not to interrupt my
view. I have since collated the short cuts to a single folder.

Phil

Phil

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Sep 1, 2005, 9:24:29 AM9/1/05
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Ditto re the link .. and yes I finally got there too. Another shortcut
to add to my
desktop!. Well worth the search.

Ha bloody ha Drew re binary. Does that mean that the world is full of
"Yes men" and "No Men" ? On or off, in or out, up or down. There is
simply no grey area when it comes to binary numbers.

I have never enjoyed the pleasure of peeing in such temperatures.
However I did hear of a bloke who decided to see what would happen
when he pee'd on an electrified fence. Perhaps he expected to see
a display of sparks or something like a fireworks display. To put it
mildly, he won't ever do that again.

Phil

Jerry

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Sep 1, 2005, 9:36:21 AM9/1/05
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Tristate v Binary ?

Intrigued me when I heard about it

Norman

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Sep 2, 2005, 2:45:53 AM9/2/05
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Linda? Did something get by me here?

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Phil

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Sep 4, 2005, 10:49:40 AM9/4/05
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Norman,

I thought that I had mentioned Linda. Another time perhaps.

Dr Phil

Norman

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Sep 4, 2005, 12:53:00 PM9/4/05
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Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr..............................!

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