Brain Processing Speed Training and More
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Transcendance
May 17, 2011, 8:56:55 AM5/17/11
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Hi everyone, I've been following the discussions in this group in the
shadows for about a year now. I've always been interested in improving
myself cognitively since I felt that I would be able to achieve much
more than I could right now even though I am considered to be of
superior intelligence by the WAIS IV test, with a Full Scale IQ of
122. To give you guys a broader understanding of my cognitive
strengths and weaknesses, these are the results of the subtests I've
taken and the 4 primary indexes:
Verbal Comprehension Index (VCI)
Index Score Classification Percentile Confidence
Interval 95%
112 High Average 79 106-117
Subtest Abilities
Assessed Scaled Score (/19)
Classification (Highest = Very Superior)
Similarities Verbal reasoning and concept formation
12 High Average
Vocabulary Word knowledge, verbal expression
14 Superior
Information General knowledge
11 Average
Perceptual Reasoning Index (PRI)
Index Score Classification Percentile Confidence
Interval 95%
119 Superior 90 112-124
Subtest Abilities
Assessed Scaled Score (/19)
Classification (Highest = Very Superior)
Block Design Spatial perception and visual perception-
fine motor
coordination
15 Superior
Matrix Reasoning Fluid intelligence, non-verbal abstract
problem
solving
12 High
Average
Visual Puzzles Visual processing, spatial relations,
ability to analyze and synthesize visual
stimuli
13 High Average
Working Memory Index (WMI)
Index Score Classification Percentile Confidence
Interval 95%
133 Very Superior 99 124-138
Subtest Abilities
Assessed Scaled Score (/19)
Classification (Highest = Very Superior)
Digit Span Auditory short-term memory, sequencing
skills, attention and
concentration 13 High
Average
Arithmetic Numerical manipulation and reasoning,
attention/
concentration
19 Very Superior
Processing Speed Index (PSI)
Index Score Classification Percentile Confidence
Interval 95%
108 Average 70 99-116
Subtest Abilities
Assessed Scaled Score (/19)
Classification (Highest = Very Superior)
Symbol Search Processing speed, short-term visual
memory, visual-motor coordination,
cognitive flexibility, visual
discrimination
and
concentration
11 Average
Coding Learning ability, visual perception, visual-
motor coordination, visual scanning
ability,
cognitive
flexibility
12 High Average
As you can see, my greatest weakness lies in processing speed, with an
average score of 108, significantly lower than the full scale iq score
of 122 and even more so when compared to my working memory index score
of 133. It has also affected my perceptual reasoning subtests' scores,
namely matrix reasoning, block design and visual puzzles since these
three tests are timed, with only 30seconds allowed for each question.
Thus, can you guys provide me with the most effective way
(scientifically proven) to improve my brain's processing speed (PSI)?
And what about improving verbal reasoning, concept formation, verbal
expression (VCI), non-verbal abstract problem solving, visual
processing and spatial relations (ability to analyze and synthesize
visual stimuli) (PRI)?
Thanks in advance and see you guys around!
shadows for about a year now. I've always been interested in improving
myself cognitively since I felt that I would be able to achieve much
more than I could right now even though I am considered to be of
superior intelligence by the WAIS IV test, with a Full Scale IQ of
122. To give you guys a broader understanding of my cognitive
strengths and weaknesses, these are the results of the subtests I've
taken and the 4 primary indexes:
Verbal Comprehension Index (VCI)
Index Score Classification Percentile Confidence
Interval 95%
112 High Average 79 106-117
Subtest Abilities
Assessed Scaled Score (/19)
Classification (Highest = Very Superior)
Similarities Verbal reasoning and concept formation
12 High Average
Vocabulary Word knowledge, verbal expression
14 Superior
Information General knowledge
11 Average
Perceptual Reasoning Index (PRI)
Index Score Classification Percentile Confidence
Interval 95%
119 Superior 90 112-124
Subtest Abilities
Assessed Scaled Score (/19)
Classification (Highest = Very Superior)
Block Design Spatial perception and visual perception-
fine motor
coordination
15 Superior
Matrix Reasoning Fluid intelligence, non-verbal abstract
problem
solving
12 High
Average
Visual Puzzles Visual processing, spatial relations,
ability to analyze and synthesize visual
stimuli
13 High Average
Working Memory Index (WMI)
Index Score Classification Percentile Confidence
Interval 95%
133 Very Superior 99 124-138
Subtest Abilities
Assessed Scaled Score (/19)
Classification (Highest = Very Superior)
Digit Span Auditory short-term memory, sequencing
skills, attention and
concentration 13 High
Average
Arithmetic Numerical manipulation and reasoning,
attention/
concentration
19 Very Superior
Processing Speed Index (PSI)
Index Score Classification Percentile Confidence
Interval 95%
108 Average 70 99-116
Subtest Abilities
Assessed Scaled Score (/19)
Classification (Highest = Very Superior)
Symbol Search Processing speed, short-term visual
memory, visual-motor coordination,
cognitive flexibility, visual
discrimination
and
concentration
11 Average
Coding Learning ability, visual perception, visual-
motor coordination, visual scanning
ability,
cognitive
flexibility
12 High Average
As you can see, my greatest weakness lies in processing speed, with an
average score of 108, significantly lower than the full scale iq score
of 122 and even more so when compared to my working memory index score
of 133. It has also affected my perceptual reasoning subtests' scores,
namely matrix reasoning, block design and visual puzzles since these
three tests are timed, with only 30seconds allowed for each question.
Thus, can you guys provide me with the most effective way
(scientifically proven) to improve my brain's processing speed (PSI)?
And what about improving verbal reasoning, concept formation, verbal
expression (VCI), non-verbal abstract problem solving, visual
processing and spatial relations (ability to analyze and synthesize
visual stimuli) (PRI)?
Thanks in advance and see you guys around!
likeprestige
May 17, 2011, 10:22:30 AM5/17/11
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If you want to confine your regime to using just brain workshop that
objective can be easily met. All you have to do is just manually
decrease the time per trial.
likeprestige
objective can be easily met. All you have to do is just manually
decrease the time per trial.
likeprestige
likeprestige
May 17, 2011, 10:52:16 AM5/17/11
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That's in respect to information processing...
As for touching base in the other areas you mention, there are various
n-back options available in brainworkshop that I think are more than
adequate when it comes to filling the position. This is purely based
on intuition, however, the auditory options in BW are likely going to
target the desired verbal cognitive domains & variations of the visual
options are likely going to target desired non-verbal domains. A
favoured option is to incorporate auditory and visual stimuli in your
mode of choice to channel in on both systems of thought, however, it
has been reasoned that focusing on just one cognitive domain will
produce greater results in that domain than if one aims to improve two
domains at the same time. For example, position-n-back would be a
candidate for filling the role of improving areas of spatial
importance. Dual-n-back (auditory/visual) partly does this also,
however, because one is trying to focus on two domains, benefits may
not be as great for the spatial domain in comparison to the potential
benefits derived from position n-back. A _*weak*_ analogy is to say
that to improve someone's sprinting ability, you get them to undertake
sprint training not _just_ long distance running or if you want
someone to be a champion long distance runner you don't just get them
to do sprint training.
likeprestige
P.S - as for scientific proof, sorry, don't have it. An experiment to
test this hypothesis would be nice however.
As for touching base in the other areas you mention, there are various
n-back options available in brainworkshop that I think are more than
adequate when it comes to filling the position. This is purely based
on intuition, however, the auditory options in BW are likely going to
target the desired verbal cognitive domains & variations of the visual
options are likely going to target desired non-verbal domains. A
favoured option is to incorporate auditory and visual stimuli in your
mode of choice to channel in on both systems of thought, however, it
has been reasoned that focusing on just one cognitive domain will
produce greater results in that domain than if one aims to improve two
domains at the same time. For example, position-n-back would be a
candidate for filling the role of improving areas of spatial
importance. Dual-n-back (auditory/visual) partly does this also,
however, because one is trying to focus on two domains, benefits may
not be as great for the spatial domain in comparison to the potential
benefits derived from position n-back. A _*weak*_ analogy is to say
that to improve someone's sprinting ability, you get them to undertake
sprint training not _just_ long distance running or if you want
someone to be a champion long distance runner you don't just get them
to do sprint training.
likeprestige
P.S - as for scientific proof, sorry, don't have it. An experiment to
test this hypothesis would be nice however.
Transcendance
May 17, 2011, 2:17:51 PM5/17/11
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Is there any other training I can do or food I can consume that will
be more likely to improve my brain's processing speed, other than
brain workshop?
This question applies to the other domains too (verbal and non-
verbal).
be more likely to improve my brain's processing speed, other than
brain workshop?
This question applies to the other domains too (verbal and non-
verbal).
Pontus Granström
May 17, 2011, 3:42:28 PM5/17/11
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I have a hard time reading your table is it possible to get it in a correct way?
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Transcendance
May 17, 2011, 5:03:46 PM5/17/11
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There you go:
Verbal Comprehension Index (VCI)
Index Score: 112
Classification: High Average
Percentile: 79
Confidence Interval 95%: 106-117
Subtests:
Similarities
Abilities Assessed: Verbal reasoning and concept formation
Scaled Score (/19): 12
Classification (Highest = Very Superior): High Average
Vocabulary
Abilities Assessed: Word knowledge, verbal expression
Scaled Score (/19): 14
Classification (Highest = Very Superior): Superior
Information
Abilities Assessed: General knowledge
Scaled Score (/19): 11
Classification (Highest = Very Superior): Average
Perceptual Reasoning Index (PRI)
Index Score: 119
Classification: High Average-Superior
Percentile: 90
Confidence Interval 95%: 112-124
Subtests:
Block Design
Abilities Assessed: Spatial perception and visual perception-fine
motor coordination
Scaled Score (/19): 15
Classification (Highest = Very Superior): Superior
Matrix Reasoning
Abilities Assessed: Fluid Intelligence, non-verbal abstract problem
solving
Scaled Score (/19): 12
Classification (Highest = Very Superior): High Average
Visual Puzzles
Abilities Assessed: Visual processing, spatial relations, ability to
Classification (Highest = Very Superior): High Average
Working Memory Index (WMI)
Index Score: 133
Classification: Very Superior
Percentile: 99
Confidence Interval 95%: 124-138
Subtests:
Digit Span
Abilities Assessed: Auditory short-term memory, sequencing skills,
attention and concentration
Scaled Score (/19): 13
Classification (Highest = Very Superior): High Average
Arithmetic
Abilities Assessed: Numerical manipulation and reasoning, attention/
concentration
Scaled Score (/19): 19
Classification (Highest = Very Superior): Very Superior
Processing Speed Index (PSI)
Index Score: 108
Classification: Average
Percentile: 70
Confidence Interval 95%: 99-116
Subtests:
Symbol Search
Abilities Assessed: Processing speed, short-term visual memory, visual-
Classification (Highest = Very Superior): Average
Coding
Abilities Assessed: Learning ability, visual perception, visual-motor
Classification (Highest = Very Superior): High Average
By the way, the verbal comprehension subtests are biased towards
American knowledge and since I am no American, is it right to say that
the score does not reflect my true verbal reasoning and comprehension
intellect?
On May 18, 3:42 am, Pontus Granström <lepon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have a hard time reading your table is it possible to get it in a correct
> way?
>
Verbal Comprehension Index (VCI)
Index Score: 112
Classification: High Average
Percentile: 79
Confidence Interval 95%: 106-117
Subtests:
Similarities
Abilities Assessed: Verbal reasoning and concept formation
Scaled Score (/19): 12
Classification (Highest = Very Superior): High Average
Vocabulary
Abilities Assessed: Word knowledge, verbal expression
Scaled Score (/19): 14
Classification (Highest = Very Superior): Superior
Information
Abilities Assessed: General knowledge
Scaled Score (/19): 11
Classification (Highest = Very Superior): Average
Perceptual Reasoning Index (PRI)
Index Score: 119
Classification: High Average-Superior
Percentile: 90
Confidence Interval 95%: 112-124
Subtests:
Block Design
Abilities Assessed: Spatial perception and visual perception-fine
motor coordination
Scaled Score (/19): 15
Classification (Highest = Very Superior): Superior
Matrix Reasoning
Abilities Assessed: Fluid Intelligence, non-verbal abstract problem
solving
Scaled Score (/19): 12
Classification (Highest = Very Superior): High Average
Visual Puzzles
Abilities Assessed: Visual processing, spatial relations, ability to
analyze and synthesize visual stimuli
Scaled Score (/19): 13
Classification (Highest = Very Superior): High Average
Working Memory Index (WMI)
Index Score: 133
Classification: Very Superior
Percentile: 99
Confidence Interval 95%: 124-138
Subtests:
Digit Span
Abilities Assessed: Auditory short-term memory, sequencing skills,
attention and concentration
Scaled Score (/19): 13
Classification (Highest = Very Superior): High Average
Arithmetic
Abilities Assessed: Numerical manipulation and reasoning, attention/
concentration
Scaled Score (/19): 19
Classification (Highest = Very Superior): Very Superior
Processing Speed Index (PSI)
Index Score: 108
Classification: Average
Percentile: 70
Confidence Interval 95%: 99-116
Subtests:
Symbol Search
Abilities Assessed: Processing speed, short-term visual memory, visual-
motor coordination, cognitive flexibility, visual discrimination and
concentration
Scaled Score (/19): 11
concentration
Classification (Highest = Very Superior): Average
Coding
Abilities Assessed: Learning ability, visual perception, visual-motor
coordination, visual scanning ability, cognitive flexibility
Scaled Score (/19): 12
Classification (Highest = Very Superior): High Average
By the way, the verbal comprehension subtests are biased towards
American knowledge and since I am no American, is it right to say that
the score does not reflect my true verbal reasoning and comprehension
intellect?
On May 18, 3:42 am, Pontus Granström <lepon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have a hard time reading your table is it possible to get it in a correct
> way?
>
Pontus Granström
May 17, 2011, 5:10:34 PM5/17/11
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To answer your question, it is most certainly below your "true score", but that's not that important, since it seems that you score high in the most g-loaded tests (arithmetic, block design etc) and you score average
in low g-load tasks like speed and so on. To be completely honest, I have improved in many areas at for example Lumosity.com and academically (mainly theoretical computer science, IQ-tests) but my speed haven't moved a bit.
in low g-load tasks like speed and so on. To be completely honest, I have improved in many areas at for example Lumosity.com and academically (mainly theoretical computer science, IQ-tests) but my speed haven't moved a bit.
Pontus Granström
May 17, 2011, 5:19:09 PM5/17/11
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If they did a factor analysis on your score, your G-points would probably sum up as a G well above average. This is how they usually do it when dealing with test batteries, for example you could get a G,Gc and Gv score. What's really interesting
from IQ-tests is the G-factor since it holds the most predictive power.
from IQ-tests is the G-factor since it holds the most predictive power.
Transcendance
May 17, 2011, 9:48:26 PM5/17/11
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Thanks for the insight!
Can I know the 'g-loaded' values of the various tests? And is there
any way I can calculate my G, Gc and Gv scores?
On May 18, 5:19 am, Pontus Granström <lepon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> If they did a factor analysis on your score, your G-points would probably
> sum up as a G well above average. This is how they usually do it when
> dealing with test batteries, for example you could get a G,Gc and Gv score.
> What's really interesting
> from IQ-tests is the G-factor since it holds the most predictive power.
>
> ...
>
> read more »
Can I know the 'g-loaded' values of the various tests? And is there
any way I can calculate my G, Gc and Gv scores?
On May 18, 5:19 am, Pontus Granström <lepon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> If they did a factor analysis on your score, your G-points would probably
> sum up as a G well above average. This is how they usually do it when
> dealing with test batteries, for example you could get a G,Gc and Gv score.
> What's really interesting
> from IQ-tests is the G-factor since it holds the most predictive power.
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 11:10 PM, Pontus Granström <lepon...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
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> > To answer your question, it is most certainly below your "true score", but
> > that's not that important, since it seems that you score high in the most
> > g-loaded tests (arithmetic, block design etc) and you score average
> > in low g-load tasks like speed and so on. To be completely honest, I have
> > improved in many areas at for example Lumosity.com and academically (mainly
> > theoretical computer science, IQ-tests) but my speed haven't moved a bit.
>
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> > To answer your question, it is most certainly below your "true score", but
> > that's not that important, since it seems that you score high in the most
> > g-loaded tests (arithmetic, block design etc) and you score average
> > in low g-load tasks like speed and so on. To be completely honest, I have
> > improved in many areas at for example Lumosity.com and academically (mainly
> > theoretical computer science, IQ-tests) but my speed haven't moved a bit.
>
>
> read more »
Pontus Granström
May 18, 2011, 2:21:29 AM5/18/11
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Good Measures of g
Arithmetic .768
Vocabulary .751
Information .748
Similarities .733
Fair Measures of g
Matrix Reasoning .687
Block Design .672
Word Reasoning .648
Comprehension .646
Letter-Number Seq. .621
Picture Completion .616
Picture Concepts .582
Symbol Search .568
Digit Span .525
Poor Measure of g
Coding .454
Poorest Measure of g
Cancellation .209
Arithmetic .768
Vocabulary .751
Information .748
Similarities .733
Fair Measures of g
Matrix Reasoning .687
Block Design .672
Word Reasoning .648
Comprehension .646
Letter-Number Seq. .621
Picture Completion .616
Picture Concepts .582
Symbol Search .568
Digit Span .525
Poor Measure of g
Coding .454
Poorest Measure of g
Cancellation .209
Darius Malik
May 18, 2011, 4:13:36 AM5/18/11
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Coffee is good for a temporary boost. Bear in mind that caffeine
withdrawal is NOT FUN if you go cold turkey. I've been experimenting
with cycling caffeine weekly (Saturday and Sunday I drink coffee,
other days I don't) to prevent tolerance, and it seems to work well -
I get a boost on weekends, and I have only mild withdrawal symptoms.
Also, there's been talk of caffeine lessening neurogenesis in the
hippocampus.
withdrawal is NOT FUN if you go cold turkey. I've been experimenting
with cycling caffeine weekly (Saturday and Sunday I drink coffee,
other days I don't) to prevent tolerance, and it seems to work well -
I get a boost on weekends, and I have only mild withdrawal symptoms.
Also, there's been talk of caffeine lessening neurogenesis in the
hippocampus.
Pontus Granström
May 18, 2011, 6:34:51 AM5/18/11
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Judging from your score in the heaviest section you got
Very Superior, Superior, high average, average. If you take the test again you might
improve (from what the has been reported improvements in research) Matrix Reasoning,
Block Design, Digit span. For the speed tests I recommend rapid iq builder or mental-aktiv.de
Very Superior, Superior, high average, average. If you take the test again you might
improve (from what the has been reported improvements in research) Matrix Reasoning,
Block Design, Digit span. For the speed tests I recommend rapid iq builder or mental-aktiv.de
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whoisbambam
May 18, 2011, 7:59:36 AM5/18/11
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kind of difficult to navigate and understand that non-english
site.........
i wonder why somebody doesnt do a translation for them?
On May 18, 5:34 am, Pontus Granström <lepon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Judging from your score in the heaviest section you got
> Very Superior, Superior, high average, average. If you take the test again
> you might
> improve (from what the has been reported improvements in research) Matrix
> Reasoning,
> Block Design, Digit span. For the speed tests I recommend rapid iq builder
> or mental-aktiv.de
>
site.........
i wonder why somebody doesnt do a translation for them?
On May 18, 5:34 am, Pontus Granström <lepon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Judging from your score in the heaviest section you got
> Very Superior, Superior, high average, average. If you take the test again
> you might
> improve (from what the has been reported improvements in research) Matrix
> Reasoning,
> Block Design, Digit span. For the speed tests I recommend rapid iq builder
> or mental-aktiv.de
>
Vedber
May 18, 2011, 11:20:28 AM5/18/11
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I'm not aware of any scientifically proven method for increasing your
processing speed, but you could try either mybraintrainer.com (monthly
fee) or the program Thinkfast which mybraintrainer.com is based on.
Thinkfast includes exercises for increasing processing speed as well
as working memory and according to some sources (http://
home.earthlink.net/~bmcgaugh/thinkf.htm) it correlates well with IQ,
but that's mostly anectdotal evidence...
processing speed, but you could try either mybraintrainer.com (monthly
fee) or the program Thinkfast which mybraintrainer.com is based on.
Thinkfast includes exercises for increasing processing speed as well
as working memory and according to some sources (http://
home.earthlink.net/~bmcgaugh/thinkf.htm) it correlates well with IQ,
but that's mostly anectdotal evidence...
whoisbambam
May 18, 2011, 1:25:52 PM5/18/11
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i couldnt find this 'thinkfast' game.......brain.com is for sale, and
other results come up for a search..........
other results come up for a search..........
Zaraki
May 18, 2011, 4:00:42 PM5/18/11
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I found it on tpb, but can't connect to the sole seeder.. Too bad that
no credible research exists though.
no credible research exists though.
Działo, Christopher
May 18, 2011, 5:29:15 PM5/18/11
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I've been training processing speed on mentl-aktiv.de and have noticed and increase in processing speed and consistant overall improvments on my BIP scores.
Pontus Granström
May 18, 2011, 5:33:11 PM5/18/11
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I bought Thinkfast! I managed to become Brain Master +3 or something like that. The progression in that game is very similar to the progression in n-back, and as I see it, a powerful combination if you can do both thinkfast and
n-backing. If someone finds it please mail us the link since I have been looking for this program many times.
n-backing. If someone finds it please mail us the link since I have been looking for this program many times.
2011/5/18 Działo, Christopher <chris...@gmail.com>
Działo, Christopher
May 18, 2011, 5:36:57 PM5/18/11
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I've been playing speed n-back to increase overall processing speed which appears to have had an effect; my settings include 1s intervals.
On May 18, 2011 5:33 PM, "Pontus Granström" <lepo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I bought Thinkfast! I managed to become Brain Master +3 or something like
> that. The progression in that game is very similar to the progression in
> n-back, and as I see it, a powerful combination if you can do both thinkfast
> and
> n-backing. If someone finds it please mail us the link since I have been
> looking for this program many times.
>
> 2011/5/18 Działo, Christopher <chris...@gmail.com>
>
>> I've been training processing speed on mentl-aktiv.de and have noticed and
>> increase in processing speed and consistant overall improvments on my BIP
>> scores.
>> On May 18, 2011 11:20 AM, "Vedber" <hopplah...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > I'm not aware of any scientifically proven method for increasing your
>> > processing speed, but you could try either mybraintrainer.com (monthly
>> > fee) or the program Thinkfast which mybraintrainer.com is based on.
>> > Thinkfast includes exercises for increasing processing speed as well
>> > as working memory and according to some sources (http://
> I bought Thinkfast! I managed to become Brain Master +3 or something like
> that. The progression in that game is very similar to the progression in
> n-back, and as I see it, a powerful combination if you can do both thinkfast
> and
> n-backing. If someone finds it please mail us the link since I have been
> looking for this program many times.
>
> 2011/5/18 Działo, Christopher <chris...@gmail.com>
>
>> I've been training processing speed on mentl-aktiv.de and have noticed and
>> increase in processing speed and consistant overall improvments on my BIP
>> scores.
>> On May 18, 2011 11:20 AM, "Vedber" <hopplah...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > I'm not aware of any scientifically proven method for increasing your
>> > processing speed, but you could try either mybraintrainer.com (monthly
>> > fee) or the program Thinkfast which mybraintrainer.com is based on.
>> > Thinkfast includes exercises for increasing processing speed as well
>> > as working memory and according to some sources (http://
Pontus Granström
May 18, 2011, 5:40:55 PM5/18/11
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I am downloading it know, I'll try to install it but I am not sure that it works on windows vista!
whoisbambam
May 18, 2011, 6:19:49 PM5/18/11
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i would like the program too.......let me know the process involved,
please.
as for vista, there are virtual windows installs you can
use...........
but probly requires fees...........
anyway, it allows you to run windows xp virtual on your existing
OS...........you allocate ram and disk space to it tho..........
On May 18, 4:40 pm, Pontus Granström <lepon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am downloading it know, I'll try to install it but I am not sure that it
> works on windows vista!
>
> 2011/5/18 Działo, Christopher <chrisdzi...@gmail.com>
please.
as for vista, there are virtual windows installs you can
use...........
but probly requires fees...........
anyway, it allows you to run windows xp virtual on your existing
OS...........you allocate ram and disk space to it tho..........
On May 18, 4:40 pm, Pontus Granström <lepon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am downloading it know, I'll try to install it but I am not sure that it
> works on windows vista!
>
>
> > I've been playing speed n-back to increase overall processing speed which
> > appears to have had an effect; my settings include 1s intervals.
> > I've been playing speed n-back to increase overall processing speed which
> > appears to have had an effect; my settings include 1s intervals.
> > On May 18, 2011 5:33 PM, "Pontus Granström" <lepon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I bought Thinkfast! I managed to become Brain Master +3 or something like
> > > that. The progression in that game is very similar to the progression in
> > > n-back, and as I see it, a powerful combination if you can do both
> > thinkfast
> > > and
> > > n-backing. If someone finds it please mail us the link since I have been
> > > looking for this program many times.
>
> > > 2011/5/18 Działo, Christopher <chrisdzi...@gmail.com>
> > > I bought Thinkfast! I managed to become Brain Master +3 or something like
> > > that. The progression in that game is very similar to the progression in
> > > n-back, and as I see it, a powerful combination if you can do both
> > thinkfast
> > > and
> > > n-backing. If someone finds it please mail us the link since I have been
> > > looking for this program many times.
>
>
> > >> I've been training processing speed on mentl-aktiv.de and have noticed
> > and
> > >> increase in processing speed and consistant overall improvments on my
> > BIP
> > >> scores.
> > >> I've been training processing speed on mentl-aktiv.de and have noticed
> > and
> > >> increase in processing speed and consistant overall improvments on my
> > BIP
> > >> scores.
Zaraki
May 18, 2011, 6:32:55 PM5/18/11
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where did you find it, Pontus?
Has anyone read the full study to which they refer on their homepage?
Has anyone read the full study to which they refer on their homepage?
ao
May 18, 2011, 7:06:09 PM5/18/11
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It's a simple matter to get Virtual XP on Windows 7 Home Premium (64-
bit), even though Micro$oft says you have to have more advanced
versions of their OS...
Anyway, I tried to install ThinkFAST V3.16 on my virtual machine, and
it always hangs at SUBS.TXT (28% completion), loading the CPU thread
at 100% for eternity. If anyone solves this one, I'm all eyes, as I
don't have the time to experiment.
argumzio
bit), even though Micro$oft says you have to have more advanced
versions of their OS...
Anyway, I tried to install ThinkFAST V3.16 on my virtual machine, and
it always hangs at SUBS.TXT (28% completion), loading the CPU thread
at 100% for eternity. If anyone solves this one, I'm all eyes, as I
don't have the time to experiment.
argumzio
ailambris
May 19, 2011, 1:04:15 AM5/19/11
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You seem to know more about it than we do?
Pontus Granström
May 19, 2011, 4:03:36 AM5/19/11
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Pontus Granström
May 19, 2011, 11:01:57 AM5/19/11
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I am installing windows 98 on a Virtual Machine, Thinkfast! here I
come. A funny message
though during installation "If you want to use internet it has never
been easier".
come. A funny message
though during installation "If you want to use internet it has never
been easier".
ao
May 19, 2011, 7:40:00 PM5/19/11
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Virtual Win98 works like a charm. Not sure why Virtual XP didn't, but
doesn't matter any more. This should be interesting. :)
argumzio
On May 19, 10:01 am, Pontus Granström <lepon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am installing windows 98 on a Virtual Machine, Thinkfast! here I
> come. A funny message
> though during installation "If you want to use internet it has never
> been easier".
>
doesn't matter any more. This should be interesting. :)
argumzio
On May 19, 10:01 am, Pontus Granström <lepon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am installing windows 98 on a Virtual Machine, Thinkfast! here I
> come. A funny message
> though during installation "If you want to use internet it has never
> been easier".
>
> On 5/19/11, Pontus Granström <lepon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >http://www.4shared.com/file/oJAcZYbK/tfast.html
> > Serial #: 31701
> > Unlocking Code: NKBZ
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >http://www.4shared.com/file/oJAcZYbK/tfast.html
> > Serial #: 31701
> > Unlocking Code: NKBZ
>
ailambris
May 19, 2011, 11:13:35 PM5/19/11
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I just don't see how the computer program is not inherently flawed,
and only as good as the stupid logic underneath it. What a waste, I
think, of my time to spend endlessly, on this device.
> >http://groups.google.com/group/brain-training?hl=en.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
and only as good as the stupid logic underneath it. What a waste, I
think, of my time to spend endlessly, on this device.
>
> - Show quoted text -
Pontus Granström
May 20, 2011, 2:45:02 AM5/20/11
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You got any ideas on how to speed up the graphics, the input in some
games is lagging for me. Probably due some slow graphics driver.
games is lagging for me. Probably due some slow graphics driver.
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