~~ Wholesome Training : Rock out ~~

[Michael]

Repost: I forgot to add the link to 'Apex' ha, the auditory version of relational n-back I reference much further below heh! 

Here we go: https://codepen.io/qvmbioip-the-typescripter/full/gbarxPo

And YES! This link will indeed stay working for the long term, 97.5903% sure.

Alrighty is my first post on "Wholesome Training", let's hope I find that measured point well enough heh.

Right fellow cognitive alchemists, I wanted to pivot and sideline cognitive theory until November 1st and put the spotlight on the energy that's leading the cognitive training over the cognitive training itself for a few moments. This follows some recent personal revelations I'm now fully integrating following my hospital stay, yeah epilepsy stuff. 

Let’s get something clear. If your training feels dead, dull, mechanical… it’s not because the method is off. It’s because your energy got hijacked long before you sat down. Recruitment: Returning to the very roots of our being and deepening our understanding of what real 'work' means, and in doing so, learning to feel through the understanding of where you create strict dichotomy of wholesome training vs. training old energetic programs that are just sucking up our time left here on planet earth chasing something for all the wrong reasons. Aka, not a life we want to reflect back on.

Somewhere along the way, most of us inherited a silent virus. And we've all heard the variation of this story before, while many of us have never really internalized it in a way we could truly understand so I'm going to give you a  thought experiment to let your mind wonder with at the end of this. 

Anyhow the belief says something along the lines of:

“If it doesn’t feel like grinding pain, it’s not real progress.” 

So we show up to brain training like grey little robots. Click-click. Repeat.
Same loop, no juice. No wonder it feels like a chore.

But what if the true bottleneck isn’t your working memory… rather, its just a bit of wonder and curiosity you're missing?

See, we’re not here just to do cognition.
We’re here to become intelligence, vibrantly, consciously, and playfully reborn. Intelligence is our whole beings, and far beyond the albeit noteworthy dumbed down emotional intelligence that doesn't let us get away in digesting it without its overly western saturated memes about the emotions we're meant to have instead of focusing purely on the intelligence of the over, under and around of emotions themselves so we understand them from the perspective of personal consciousness engineering. 

So this... is where we make isomorphic, the definition of 'fun' to equal 'work'; aka the natural kind of work where consciousness is just enjoying the act of honoring the exploring of its own consciousness intelligence that at both the begin and end of that conversation, we have one word: Energy.

Energy input = Energy Output.

Fun Energy = Lightbulb of intelligence doing what?

That said, are we going to start... or rather, I'll say, where are we going to restart?

Here's where the thought experiment begins, and I hope there aren't too many brutes here that are too indoctrinated to try and imagine what it genuinely feels like inside to be a child again in a state of fun play, as that's the heart of what we're going to focus on here.

Thought Experiment: Reawaken the Womb-to-Wonder Timeline 

Close your eyes, yeh like, actually do it.
Now… rewind.
You’re in the womb. Floating. Warm.
The world is pressure and pulse and pulse and pressure, and there are no words yet.
Only rhythm. Only sound. Only the origami of vibration folding you into form.

You’re not trying to become intelligent.
You’re literally becoming pattern.
You don’t even have a concept of learning yet, because you are learning itself, rippling in a sea of breathless curiosity.

Now time jump.
Your toes touch a surface. You stand. Fall. Stand. Fall. Laugh.
Balance isn’t a goal, it’s a game.
You're not grinding your way to bipedal greatness, you’re playing with gravity like it’s a pet.

Now jump again. You’re surrounded by color. Toys. Nonsense sounds. Things that boing.
You’re giggling at a dog fart. You’re giving a spoon a personality. Oh what's that, you get a feeling that tell you "No!"? That's a part of the old energetic program now and that's all you need to see it as because the evidence you're creating of you being able to shift your state by just learning to play again as a kid inside your own consciousness and have fun while doing that is informing you directly of that pattern. The primary pattern here being, our energetic patterns operate interdependently with us but with our awareness and understanding of our consciousness, we can imbue our beings with the intelligence that energetically takes them further, and do so, very, very naturally. As this is, very, very natural, pure and simple; and to some, it'll be shocking just how simple and well this actually works.

Back into your younger motion, now you’re composing symphonies of nonsense and calling it play, because it is and who cares. You’re not optimizing working memory; you’re living in the peak state of vibrational cognition and doing so naturally. 

THIS is the energetic blueprint we’re reclaiming.
Because your first intelligence was not logic, it was aliveness.
And if your training doesn’t start there, you’re not training. You’re just building better shackles.

So… before your next session, don't try to psyche yourself up. Try to psyche yourself down, and I mean down to when you were a baby, a toddler, a teenager, to now, where you're embodying your highest state of consciousness living in pure fun and joy. Because now, you're going to use the cognitive exercise to actually have fun. And this is why my own variants have such an edge, the act of relearning what it feels like to be totally inside your imagination and learning to map it logically through auditory relational reasoning gives someone such an edge, and a fun edge at that. Relational reasoning isn’t solving, it’s playing. Start with imagination, feel the relation, then map it to symbol. Let logic be alive, not forced. Don’t tighten up, giggle with the glyphs. Intelligence is jazz, not jail. Let the symbols roll around with you into intellectual burping jokes through you, rather than trap you. 

For newcomers, its super simple how to play the following game my way:

Overall.

1. The imaginative exploration becomes its own fun, and as much as I hype the imagination internally during the exercise, I hype the energy of fun behind it, and the logical relations just tip the scales of a natural curiosity being brought out of me even further. 
2. I listen, don't press any buttons and trust my own intuition on levelling up. The games feedback is secondary, purely supportive of driving your own enjoyment of understanding your own intelligence itself. 
3. This is a great rehab technique, I just got out of the hospital recently following epilepsy stuff, and its an excellent way to learn to spend a lot of time syncing energy transmutation with mind exploration. 

Specific to...
Relational Reasoning and therefore where Imaginate > Map to Symbol > Relational Reasoning Instruction (RR) > Transform the imagination that's been mapped to the symbol based on the RRI.

1. Imagine a concept, even better if you're doing 'consciousness streaming'  (e.g. let's say you imagine "dog"), take the focus and assign it the symbol either being visually represented or directly spoken to you (e.g., x₁).

2. Receive a relation (e.g., "x₁ is northeast of x₂").

3. Interpret the direction abstractly: e.g., northeast = more abstract + more positive. Or in 'sameness', as I've found it useful to assign east as 'sameness' and west as 'opposite'. You can complexify it in many ways, what's important is your own logical consistency.

4. Generate a new concept based on the relational transformation / direction / RRI you're given (e.g., “hope”) that fits that directional abstraction. Again you can complexify it in many ways, what's important is your own logical consistency in creative abstraction that's as imaginative as your natural joy and curiosity wishes to explore these ends; something that perhaps you're now learning is a trained vibration, an emotional programming you're teaching yourself, that comes from a genuine place because you're remembering who a part of yourself genuinely is. 

5. Map that new concept/transformation to x₂ or whatever the symbol is.

6. Store the pair and spatial (now abstract) relation: x₁ = dog, x₂ = hope, x₁ NE of x₂.

7. Repeat with the next relation (e.g., x₄ is west of x₅) including relative mapping to across n-level.

8. After the session, have fun enjoying the process of recalling and compressing the network of experiences you've just experienced something that's an important journalling step for integrating your internal changes as well as being a natural exercise of long term memory: group symbols, find motifs, derive structure.

9. Track the entire network of experiences of sessions over weeks and watch yourself transform into a new state of being in as little as a couple of weeks, especially if you're in a hospital bed like me with a lot of time to spare refining ideas like these ha!

Now... Let's come full circle.

You were only truly built for curiosity.
You were only truly built for where intelligence meant fun.
And now we’re bringing that back online and throwing away the locks to being your own prison Warden on your own seemingly infinite joyful consciousness exploration. 

Welcome to Wholesome Training.

You didn’t lose your edge, you just forgot how to both literally and figuratively...
Laugh with your hearty neurons.

On that note, I'm going to end on sharing a YouTube video of a highly credible physicist's consciousness journey to many wonderful inner self-initiated explorations they took to many, well, interesting destinations as the video title implies that I hope only positively reinforces your endeavour here.

We live in a very strange time in history where there's this weird cross-section of where people are either being too absurd or too serious, and I think a lack of self-understanding of the energy dynamics of consciousness actually work in the context of supporting the natural intelligence of being and all of its energies there, plays a big, big part in that.

✨ 🌍 🌊 David Clements | A Key Paradigm Shift of NOW: A Message of Love of Inner Earth, Cosmos, & More

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5ceess4_Xk

Best wishes!

[Michael]

And don't be afraid to share any ideas, changes, customizations : speeds, volumes, whatever else. 

Rock out. 

[Particular Reticular]

Thanks for sharing all of this. When choosing a directional abstraction, for example, you used east as sameness and west as opposite. Would you change your personal abstractions each session or stick to the same ones? 
Also, recently I came across this advanced memory palace system on Reddit called Mental Atlas Method and the way it uses concepts and abstractions to synthesize ideas reminded me of what you're doing, so I'm wondering what you think about it.

Much love.

P.S.  I ended up dropping the synesthesia trainer about a week or so in after realizing I didn't have any clear end goal or use case in mind. 

[Michael]

Thanks for the thoughtful questions and for pointing me toward the Mental Atlas Method, never heard of it so glad.

I’ll dive into it and analyze the underlying mechanics, have got the gist. From what you’ve described, it sounds like a high-resolution semantic memory system, leveraging analogical iconography and dual coding for abstract concept encoding. I’m curious to see how it handles recursive synthesis and symbolic re-indexing under cognitive load.

To share some context tho mate, I’ve been developing my own technique I call the Method of Loci of Consciousness, I'll shed some light on it as I see the threads I make as a creative whiteboard for anyone. It’s not a memory system per se, tho more a recursive symbolic architecture, designed for encoding evolving states of consciousness within spatially-organized chambers, each of which serves as a feedback mirror for identity alignment. Pick an experience, plot it dimensionally, generate levels of awareness in relation to it, watch consciousness to make its natural resulting adaptations. These chambers are linked through “thresholds,” which act as transitional gates between states, allowing for continuous projective mirroring, energetic harmonization, and the recursive reinforcement of intentional self-states. My personal experience of consciousness is never perfect, but having systems that push the needle on their mastery certainly makes it easier and with this approach I've made, it definitely advances my energetic intelligence (encompassing of psychological and emotional intelligence). It’s informed by contemplative traditions (Vedic, alchemical, mythopoetic [ related to the analogical process a little of Atlas ]) and blends symbolic cognition, narrative feedback, and spatial-emotional mapping.

That said, I can see clear integration potential: Mental Atlas' approach only reinforces the direction I was going in some months ago, the idea of implementing relational categories onto the memory stack of the loci method. Method of loci of consciousness I thought of years back, relational categories aka analogical mapping about a year back but neither fully implementing, the projective mirroring approach that creates a tighter feedback loop for heightening awareness though, has been a pivotal turning point that's made it easier to have the motivational awareness to implement the other two, and now yeah, I'll find out where I've got gaps in my understanding of mental atlas. 

Also, completely understand dropping the synesthesia trainer. I don't know much about it but, if you're going to do something so intense, you need the right gears to help turn the motivational anchors to stay on it just how this last insight for me has turned the gears here for my case.

Much love, and thank you again for offering a parallel lens on this work. These intersections are gold, positive coincidence given I only came up with my projective mirroring implementation literally days ago. 

[yahya]

Hello Michael,

your ideas are jaw dropping, in particular the Apex game. It looks so compelling to play as I somewhat understand the ideas behind it and the integration among said ideas. Did you play the game yourself long enough to notice improvements? I have no idea whether I should start with Apex and stick to it or get on the beaten path with NBacking and syllogimous. As you can see, I'm a complete beginner and I would also appreciate some advice on how to go about brain training.

Much love!

Yahya

[Michael]

It's really only been perfected now so now is as good as time as any to start, by the way light'n on the praise as people will think you're a fake account assuming that I'm some idiot on the internet that makes fake accounts for some random forum just to increase my illusory status haha. It's not out of the question that I'd make a fake account under a different context but certainly not to increase my status lol, that's loser status.

Though thank you for the support, I appreciate it and it helps get the ideas circulating for the consumption of people that I genuinely hope benefit from my ideas.

I'll just spend 5 hours now, then 5 hours tomorrow. And notice improvements. Because I'm a boss like that, and I've had experience with only its visual variations, and I've learned a lot more since then as I've expressed here with meta-modelling. 

I recommend Apex, but only the associative kind, are you familiar with my technique?

Very straightforward.

1. Imagine something (as you get the hang of it try to make it as abstract, inventive and imaginative as possible)

2. Associate it with the first symbol 

3. Transform the imagination relative to the direction (if its saying something analogous to x is north of y, what you've imagined in step 1 is associated with x and then you take those contents north of whatever dimension satisfies "as you get the hang of it try to make it as abstract, inventive and imaginative as possible".)

4. Associate those contents that are the outcomes of that transformation to the second symbol

5. Rinse and repeat for however many symbols there are. 

You should absolutely skip any other variant of n-back and not play it outside of maintenance work of no more than 15-20 minutes in a given day which is close to the experimental conditions time constraints anyway of most related studies. 

A minimum of an hour is what I personally suggest, however I do know your unique genetic profile (I.e. genetic plasticity is a real thing) and therefore only recommend you fuel your own esteem as to what the right directions are for you personally. I promise you however, that the average person will undoubtedly see far more progress from Apex than they would n-back, provided they affirm themselves the right mentorship on how they navigate their own progress. 

My advice is to start a journal on the forum, it would encourage people enormously to take the leap for themselves. It may feel a bit daunting at first, however It will stimulate the confidence others presently lack that you yourself obviously have to start. I won't pressure you though and wish you well for what is your unique journey of course.

Otherwise bump this post in a couple to few days and I'll report back with at least 5 hours per day of training to feed you results, as from my own personal experience, again for me personally, improvements can come quickly. 

Best regards.

[Michael]

Brief example of analogous abstract transformations

If you're imagining a dog...

North - let's make the transformation werewolf

South - let's make the transformation donald trump

East (let's make it mean SAME) - let's make the transformation wolf  

West (let's make it mean OPPOSITE) - let's make the transformation cat

And then we'll have NORTH WEST,  SOUTH EAST, and all the rest of them. 

Of course, for more prudent discernment, one can imagine that these comparisons across this kind of scale are indeed relativistic, and that's precisely as they should be. Any further differentiation is to be done across more abstract spatial dimensions rather than supposing that more precise comparisons are going to be made on an 8 directional compass. If you're really advanced you can take things for the 4D level in this regard, however for now, its totally and utterly impractical and may only provide a rudimentary advantage compared to just simply say jumping to a full streaming technique like I've proposed with respect to meta-modelling, which is exactly what I would suggest if you find these kinds of abstract transformations over a long enough n-strand and premise complexity within a constrained time frame, too easy. For any of us mere mortals however, don't worry, I'm right there with you, my endless seizures have returned some normalcy to my own capacities so I'm basically starting from scratch right there with you and I have the confidence that my abilities will return exactly to the amount I have the conscientiousness to achieve so.  

Have strength, confidence and direction in yourself. I've given you the direction, the rest is up to you.

Best regards,

Michael

[Michael]

Hopefully this serves as motivation for some, certainly does for me after having just literally left the hospital following a seizure bout; that was Saturday night though, and many new worlds obviously now await us.

Anyhow, I wrote this (see link at bottom) solely with AI observing over my shoulder in no less than a few minutes (just kidding of course), looks like my training has paid off sooner than expected! Actually, it has a little already, its reminded me about the "Social Moral Stanza" of intelligence feedback loops and the negative impact this can have on our development ergo the importance of spending more time around those presently exercising their intelligence a little more wisely than the best of us at that certain time. Starting to feel the lights turn on again in the same way that beckoned me when I took RR training in the described associative way some time back when I first originated method of loci of consciousness for example that I'm still yet to take fully advantage of but shall reacquint myself with the creative endpoints to now to begin weaving new territories to landmark there. It's benefit presently totally untethered in spite of the enormous benefit it'll invariably bring, underpinned by simply associating consciousness states between emotional and behavioural experience with the memory association of the agency we want to bring what we've determined as the optimised output in that regard (I.e. there's a recording of delayal of gratification not just expectancy of when its going to come into effect, so that when its needed its called upon, or there's a recording of satiation therefore when one is acting aimlessly towards wishing to satiate strategic eyes will supersede gluttonous intentions etc, etc).

Alright here's that paper, just as I shared the one earlier which was pretty darn impressive with how it contained solely real relatively recent research papers. This paper as well integrates my personal approach and or technique I shared above too; mind-blowing what we have at our disposal now so soon, and what only beckons. Lastly, my results are not necessarily standard plasticity outcomes, at the same time though you can't know what you're capable of until you dive head first for hours and hours of training.

Analogical Reasoning as a Pathway to Fluid Intelligence Enhancement: Mechanisms and Training Framework - https://chatgpt.com/s/689c76098c048191aa7d85fd70ed1926

And by the way, I'm reading it for the first time with yah heh!

Hope that's a piece of motivation that pushes 1's next Consciousness state over the line to its next mental divinity however yal define that.

Best regards.

[Michael]

Concerning the design of the game and whether or not anything else should be implemented, well right now that's a no and instead its merely a matter of refinement. I've thought a lot about it and here's what I got GPT to spit out in affirmation of my present justification. Granted, GPT is still pretty terrible at coming up with novel ideas anyway like it would never come up with what I've had to implement to make it satisfactory, but that said, there's nothing more I can imagine someone is able to do other than incrementally levelling up towards slowly adding meta-modelling overtime at best, and or at worst as already stated, increasing the all-round precision as well as the level of inventive abstraction of your associations. You can do better than my Trump association, right? Ha. 

Maximizing Relational Complexity and g‐Loading in a Relational N‑Back Game: A Meta‑Design Exploration
https://chatgpt.com/c/689da5a1-27b4-832f-bb61-f6e655ec22ef

On that note, questions have been abound regarding the pairing of associative abstractions which I view as just as fundamental to the training otherwise it wouldn't be included. But that said, given any answering of questions I believe would benefit future readers, please address all questions publicly so that all of us inclusive can readily learn accordingly and just make it a fun chat that isn't taken too seriously but that we get all the serious benefit we can get from it. Rock out and may the force be with you (I'm sure it will be). 

Best regards. 

[Michael]

Meta-modelling though is just an example of a step-wise function one should follow in consolidating and extending gains as opposed to seeing it as the end resolve, which is precisely how I view it purely because that's how I've framed my end resolve, though how you frame yours is completely of your making, an original and personal creative process I only wish to encourage. See the English language, isn't necessarily too limited per se, I think most of us would agree limitations here instead extend to the breadth of articulation rather than the capacity of its scope which is quite 'severe' for lack of a better word pun intended, with all the metaphor and analogy we can employ when there are the ears and eyes to receive them. However, irrespectively, the English language, like notes on a piano, were relationally constrained for a common medium, which in return, become both the canvas and the paint with time regarding self-consciousness' self-referential process. And that's where training the blueprint of its indices at its intersection, aka relational binding (if we just throw out the word reasoning), is naturally going to open up new language devices, like so many have found with Mathematics for example and they have indeed radically altered their minds with Rudiger Gamm and Srinivasa Ramanujan being only just two of endless names, but that for you analogously speaking, whether its through modalities like ontological reasoning, meta-modelling or both, can open up an entirely new repertoire of abilities to begin carving your own self-referential language to expand your perceptual capacities whether towards purely internal horizons or otherwise. Relational binding, is the symbolic pairing between perception and category and with that, the raw ingredients by which you can setup the conditions for a potential new language to flourish. And this is precisely of course, where my prior reference to one of my favorite films, 2016 Arrival, comes in, arriving right on time; and yes, a language that begins and ends all at once at each interval speaking the best of geometrical intersections of our brains functioning is absolutely where I'd love to take a language, but that's just a dream, and just increasing the number of dimensions as I previously shared, at present, feels more possible to me at this moment. "Food for thought" aye. I think me just taking a page from one of the best books in history as my own inspiration to master the English language is the best logical position for me at present even if I'm entertaining new known languages and inventing one's side by side as well. 

I found the following to be a particularly interesting intersection with the film Arrival, 2016 - Enjoy aye! Rock out. 

Open minds, not blind belief. 

A final question to leave with, are we speaking the languages of the universe or are the languages we create define the universe?
For either or both, what do we miss from that whichever the resolve or conclusion?

The Truth of Psychic Abilities Revealed & The Surprisingly Simple Way to See The Future

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJrTddUkplY&t=7203s

Best regards. Stay strong, stay courageous. 

[Particular Reticular]

I have a question about transforming symbols. For example, from this premise {Z4 is northeast of R7 and R7 is two levels above W4}, I get the first part. Let's say Z4 is a fish, and I transform it into a radioactive fish, R7. In the second part, what is W4? I can transform R7 again using the transformation map I have for Above and Below, but I don't get the purpose of W4.

[Michael]

Terrific effort!

Almost there but relativistically speaking although it depends on one's perspective, all things being equal, "fish" would be R7 and "radioactivefish" would be Z4, I get how they can be tricky though heh and that's a good thing for training hey! Because let's make R7 "fish" and directionally do as you've written, travel northeast, wouldn't we arrive at "radioactivefish" Z4 now? Because as it states, Z4 is northeast of R7, thereby starting from R7 and traveling in a North easterly abstract direction being that of Z4. 

Consider analogical reasoning on a spectrum however, that said, I would consider a radioactive fish on the weaker end of analogical reasoning itself. Think about it. Analogy can be of part/s or whole, of structure to function to whatever significance or meaning that is common to it or unique to it relative to your individual understanding. That said, I only share this distinction for the relative learning of the reader, otherwise because we're dealing purely with an example, let's keep it simple and straightforward just as you're doing well already. For the reader alone however, I recommend taking the time to think deeply until this understanding is integrated, coming up with your own variations that extend more into the lesson there for your own personal practice. 

Returning to your original example, by again relative perspective, let's just say we made radioactive fish Z4, fish R7 and as it concerns W4, its totally up to you, just so long as it genuinely agrees logically, and for that, you honestly have arguably endless possibilities, it really just depends on what you can see more than what is necessarily certain, as this is more probabilistic than it is certain, but only comparatively. You could argue that W4 being two levels below R7 or R7 two levels above W4, that it was two levels above on the evolutionary chain for example, like an Hylonomus lyelli being that of one of our earliest known reptiles, or perhaps our scale is actually proximity of abstract objects to being able to live in sea water, in which case if you had one level back as a land mammal and two levels back say something that lived outer space. Or, perhaps transition from inanimate to the animate, two levels back we have the atomic to the next a physical object to a fish. Or perhaps we can focus on a different lens, like danger, I imagine a radioactive fish is at least a level above that of a stonefish, which we'll newly assign as R7 given no specific fish was mentioned, and then two levels below a stonefish, we could say was an electric eel. So the subject is your lens and the lens is your subject, this determines the bandwidth, depth and circumference of your relative perspectivism that defines what logic means in your process of 'making self sense'. 

Your sheer curiosity and desire for understanding is the catalyst that closes the distance between the unknown of what symbols mean what and being able to enjoy the full fledged game you've created before your eyes by your desire to just simply reach completion from blackness to light. 

Lastly, undoubtedly some are going to want to prefer a more technical approach to their reasoning process, as such, they would treat the flexibility of my own logical relationality as in part, a sin in the Catholic Church of logic. To that end, in avoiding confusion, for the creative looking to dually make this an expansion of their consciousness horizons you can open your wings a bit and ensure you're remaining in integrity with the rigour of the training, however technical precision that's aligned with a more linear approach would entail fixing your relational axes and transformation mappings for the entire block, rigorously applying the inverse for every dependent element, and verifying that all symbol, relation, position triplets close without contradiction when re-computed from any starting point. This keeps every inference in a bounded, testable space while still allowing analogy depth to scale. Thus returning, if R7 = fish and Z4 = radioactive fish, fix “northeast” as a constant transformation, always apply its inverse when mapping backward, and verify W4’s position by recalculating from both Z4 and R7, ensuring all coordinates reconcile without contradictions. That's the more technical approach. That's the more pedantic "lost" approach, but I'm only being satirical now. 

Feel free to ask any further questions, thank you for giving me the opportunity as I'm sure many others are doing the hard-yakka there too and through your own courage you've just now made it easier for them and everyone as a whole by sharing.

Best regards.

[Michael]

Regarding my "two posts ago" I honestly just put it down to the fact that I'm just not smart enough yet.

Thus I'm going to put it down as a challenge to myself, precisely because my intuition is telling me that there's at the very least another dimension I should be adding to my transformations i.e. as per between A : B , that I'm just simply not able to fully capture yet. But I will. And I'll be obsessed until I do capture it. Until then, I'll be away from the forum and will respond to any further questions then. The next update I make to the game though, it won't have the evolution I make built in on default, naturally it'll be a customisable feature like all the rest so its beginner friendly, we all must start somewhere and what's most important of all is that we make the grandstand to both start, and not give in. So from abstract use of compass directions to... We'll see. I don't believe it'll be something like 4D space, but its not out of the question, I will be minimizing inclusions as much as possible ensuring that any one implementation proves itself based on practical merit not mythical flash.

Best regards.

[Luciiza _]

"P4 is one level above of A4 and R10, and A4 is three levels below of R10" 

make it make sense? 

[Michael]

Hey, thanks for bringing up this problem. I’m working on a 6D version of the game that can be explained in laymen’s term. Keep bringing tricky relationships like this one, they’re valuable. 

That said, your example is perfectly consistent if we interpret it as happening across different hierarchies (like “emotion levels” versus “thinking levels”), meaning there's no logical consistencies found yet. In that framing, P4 can be above A4 and R10 in one sense, while A4 is below R10 in another. 

I’m really glad you brought it up, because it gives others a chance to learn from your insights and see how multidimensional reasoning actually works. Moreover, its really important to share examples of where we think there may be logical inconsistencies even if their aren't, as again, it's learning for everyone. 

Thanks again sir.

[Michael]

Don't hesitate with needing extra examples as well, it can be a lot of fun to work through a bunch.

Peace out

On Wednesday, August 27, 2025 at 12:42:12 PM UTC+10 Luciiza _ wrote: