Culture fair IQ-test that measures up to 160.

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Pontus Granström

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Jan 2, 2011, 11:50:35 AM1/2/11
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A culture fair IQ-test, give it a go. You got 30 minutes (it tells you
when time is up). The only problem is that the pictures are quite
small, which at least I believe is very irritating/annoying. Upon
completion, we can have a discussion on how much this test relies on
WMC, I say to a fair extent.

cev

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Jan 3, 2011, 6:32:53 AM1/3/11
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Note that the time limit has been reduced to 20 minutes and the
ceiling score to 150.

I wonder if the content of the test has changed at all.

I registered a 143 on the intellimeter, having particular problems
with questions 9 and 41.

Pontus Granström

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Jan 3, 2011, 7:46:43 AM1/3/11
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Problem 9 is easy, they take turns to move two steps. The two on the top left moves horizontal and the two top right moves vertical. If you study the pictures you will that the only two dots per picture move two are always fixed. That the direction is horizontal and vertical follows inductively (can be conformed for the second movement from picture 2->3).

I have to think on problem 41.


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Pontus Granström

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Jan 3, 2011, 7:59:46 AM1/3/11
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I think it's a matter of distance, in the first square the shortest distance is 4, the next square 3, the next square 2, so for the last square the distance should be one.
Maybe I got a 150 IQ after all ;-)

At least I am of the opinion that this test will be well predicted by WMC.

cev

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Jan 3, 2011, 11:47:31 AM1/3/11
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Ah yes, I see - nice one. :-)

On Jan 3, 12:59 pm, Pontus Granström <lepon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think it's a matter of distance, in the first square the shortest distance
> is 4, the next square 3, the next square 2, so for the last square the
> distance should be one.
> Maybe I got a 150 IQ after all ;-)
>
> At least I am of the opinion that this test will be well predicted by WMC.
>
> On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Pontus Granström <lepon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Problem 9 is easy, they take turns to move two steps. The two on the top
> > left moves horizontal and the two top right moves vertical. If you study the
> > pictures you will that the only two dots per picture move two are always
> > fixed. That the direction is horizontal and vertical follows inductively
> > (can be conformed for the second movement from picture 2->3).
>
> > I have to think on problem 41.
>
> > On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 12:32 PM, cev <ubiquity...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >> Note that the time limit has been reduced to 20 minutes and the
> >> ceiling score to 150.
>
> >> I wonder if the content of the test has changed at all.
>
> >> I registered a 143 on the intellimeter, having particular problems
> >> with questions 9 and 41.
>
> >> On Jan 2, 4:50 pm, Pontus Granström <lepon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >http://hem.passagen.se/wizzblitz/
>
> >> > A culture fair IQ-test, give it a go. You got 30 minutes (it tells you
> >> > when time is up). The only problem is that the pictures are quite
> >> > small, which at least I believe is very irritating/annoying. Upon
> >> > completion, we can have a discussion on how much this test relies on
> >> > WMC, I say to a fair extent.
>
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Działo, Christopher

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Jan 3, 2011, 12:01:34 PM1/3/11
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Hmm...

I'm a tad worried about my mental performance. I just took this test while at work, so I don't have complete attention (clicking away when someone walks by my office, worrying if someone is coming, and overall just not completely focused on the task) I was only able to answer 21 questions before time ran out (IQ 100), but I answered all 21 correctly. I have always been slow at taking tests in general, but always perform well when given time.

Visually, the tests appears more rigorous than tests with conventional shapes. I felt myself having to get adjusted with the task, and picked up speed after answering and thinking about the problems during the test.

However, this range appears to be rather low for me. I am the 3rd youngest stockbroker in America and while I work at a securities firm, I'm also the youngest Google AdWords Professional; helping professional business create marketing campaigns to raise brand awareness and attract clients. I am currently 19 year's old. When I am trading, I just take in information: news, stock prices, market sentiments, technical indicators, and just react. I don't need to take the time to explain, write, and express something that I already understand, and I see odd inverse relations in my performance regarding things that I am good and bad at.

Note: Post test, I now have a prominent cerebral sensation. It's slightly hard to describe where but I note my left side most. There is however, a slight sensation throughout; not painful, slight discomfort. I feel good, and want to say I got a mental workout. I often feel the same when reading something intense and really getting into it, and when I n-back.

Note: When I was taking the test, I was anticipating the location of the dots and matching up my solutions with actual answers, almost like I do when n-back. Is there some correlation? When I N-back, I often find my eyes on the location of the next stimuli before it appears, and it occurs often enough to make it seems something is actually going on. There is an interference mode in BW if I'm correct. Is may brain taking in the stimuli from the trials, and discovering/creating some patter that would allow me to anticipate the location of  the next stimuli?

Random comment: I have always been rather awful at spelling, grammar, forming written compositions and things of that nature. I can read University level text books, but I have noticed that I don't actually read the words or know how to say them. I will know their meaning, understand the the underlying concepts, but when it comes to speaking, reading aloud, and writing, it just doesn't work so well for me. 

Apparently, I didn't speak until a late age as an infant and was actually quite slow. I am rather introverted, and when I perform these tasks I need to take myself and function in a more controlling, and extroverted manner - requiring activation of confidence in myself. I have anxiety, OCD, and perfectionist problems that I am controlling better. I have been consuming cannabis this past year: several times a week, less in the past past 4 months in general, but have picked up again the last 4 weeks, so that has its correlating effects.

Excuse me for this large post. I just hope I am not actually in the low 100 ranges regarding IQ, my performance in society would indicate otherwise.

moe

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Jan 3, 2011, 12:26:25 PM1/3/11
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Dude I wouldn't take that score too seriously. Test taking speed is
probably more dependent on personality factors and/or attentional
control. On the WAIS (one of the most widely used IQ tests in
psychology) the abstract reasoning section is untimed (for a good
reason I assume).
> On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 7:59 AM, Pontus Granström <lepon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I think it's a matter of distance, in the first square the shortest
> > distance is 4, the next square 3, the next square 2, so for the last square
> > the distance should be one.
> > Maybe I got a 150 IQ after all ;-)
>
> > At least I am of the opinion that this test will be well predicted by WMC.
>
> > On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Pontus Granström <lepon...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >> Problem 9 is easy, they take turns to move two steps. The two on the top
> >> left moves horizontal and the two top right moves vertical. If you study the
> >> pictures you will that the only two dots per picture move two are always
> >> fixed. That the direction is horizontal and vertical follows inductively
> >> (can be conformed for the second movement from picture 2->3).
>
> >> I have to think on problem 41.
>
> >> On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 12:32 PM, cev <ubiquity...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >>> Note that the time limit has been reduced to 20 minutes and the
> >>> ceiling score to 150.
>
> >>> I wonder if the content of the test has changed at all.
>
> >>> I registered a 143 on the intellimeter, having particular problems
> >>> with questions 9 and 41.
>
> >>> On Jan 2, 4:50 pm, Pontus Granström <lepon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >http://hem.passagen.se/wizzblitz/
>
> >>> > A culture fair IQ-test, give it a go. You got 30 minutes (it tells you
> >>> > when time is up). The only problem is that the pictures are quite
> >>> > small, which at least I believe is very irritating/annoying. Upon
> >>> > completion, we can have a discussion on how much this test relies on
> >>> > WMC, I say to a fair extent.
>
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polar

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Jan 4, 2011, 8:09:06 AM1/4/11
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Well, actual performance in one specialized, online test does not
measure your long-term potential. These are exactly the situations,
when all the societal prejudices and limits of psychometrics (not
yours!) are exposed - you got one number (oh boy, average, what a
terror), and you feel so... what actually? Dumb? Small? Now I think,
you can be pretty proud of your real life experiences, your
interesting job, and your maybe slower, but definitely impressive
intellectual performance.

And if I may say one more thing, its perfectly ok to have fluctuating
self esteem when you're 19, dont try to speed things up. In case of
need for some more consolation :) you can check out this book, chapter
2 by carol dweck (how one's opinions on intelligence, or false
feedback changes cognitive performance):
http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/book/9780300101706/Why-Smart-People-Can-be-So-Stupid
> > On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Pontus Granström <lepon...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >> Problem 9 is easy, they take turns to move two steps. The two on the top
> >> left moves horizontal and the two top right moves vertical. If you study the
> >> pictures you will that the only two dots per picture move two are always
> >> fixed. That the direction is horizontal and vertical follows inductively
> >> (can be conformed for the second movement from picture 2->3).
>
> >> I have to think on problem 41.
>
> >> On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 12:32 PM, cev <ubiquity...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >>> Note that the time limit has been reduced to 20 minutes and the
> >>> ceiling score to 150.
>
> >>> I wonder if the content of the test has changed at all.
>
> >>> I registered a 143 on the intellimeter, having particular problems
> >>> with questions 9 and 41.
>
> >>> On Jan 2, 4:50 pm, Pontus Granström <lepon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >http://hem.passagen.se/wizzblitz/
>
> >>> > A culture fair IQ-test, give it a go. You got 30 minutes (it tells you
> >>> > when time is up). The only problem is that the pictures are quite
> >>> > small, which at least I believe is very irritating/annoying. Upon
> >>> > completion, we can have a discussion on how much this test relies on
> >>> > WMC, I say to a fair extent.
>
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Pontus Granström

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Jan 4, 2011, 11:34:43 AM1/4/11
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Well, even if speeded reasoning doesn't seem to be popular among some here, I do believe that speeded reasoning can be indicative of your cognitive functioning. That is you need to stay focused and work at a steady pace to complete the problems, having trouble with this might in some cases be indicative of cognitive dysfunction. Besides there's quite much research that shows that speeded reasoning is psychometrically just as good as any other method. I consider all IQ-tests some sort of speeded tests, since not many problems can be solved within 1 min even for highly intelligent people. One can also ask how this test is a matter of abstract reasoning, since it focus much around movement, cracking that code is very much a matter of remembering the last position and comparing it with the current, a WMC/G task indeed.

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Thomasthetankengine

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Jan 5, 2011, 7:06:09 AM1/5/11
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If u input "C" as your answer for all questions, u will receive a
score of 8/42 which equates to an approximate IQ score of 68. 68
reasons to sit down and do the test properly.

One step forward, 68 steps back. What a tough life some of us lead,
all the more reason to hope that we learn more about human
intelligence and how to manipulate it.

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Jan 7, 2011, 12:44:44 PM1/7/11
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I dont like this test because the tasks are ordered by perplexity
,but mixed up so i spent a lot of time at the wrong time for it.
So i haven't finished the test in due period.
The tasks are grayish , since they only used dots and
dotted grids as means of presentation witch just makes you lose even
more time.
So losing too much time on an unclear task and also not well
formulated one,in my opinion not a valid test altogether.
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