brain workshop vs brainscale & other questions

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Ben Racz

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Apr 17, 2022, 4:37:48 PM4/17/22
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Dear N-backers,

I've recently found this exercise - and I'm intrigued & dumbfounded about the powerful effects of it.

I'd like to ask you guys a few questions - I hope there will be "veterans" who can answer them.

1.) I don't know if I'm alone with this, and it might appear like a silly question at first sight, but I'm wondering - is "lowering the time" (number of miilseconds between trials) supposed to make the exercise easier or harder? Is it a bad idea to change this? For me it seems like the 3-second original setting on brainscale can drag things out quite a bit on higher levels, making it more difficult for me to play than if the trials are going on faster.

2.) I have been practicing on brainscale.net's version of the software with the default settings. Is this vastly different from the "original exercise in the study"?

3.) I have noticed that in the "Dual N Back FAQ" that some of you have quoted, and also in this mailing list, there has been some mentions of the "Brain workshop" software - which I have downloaded, but I'm disappointed to see it does not run on my newest Mac. I don't have easy access to a windows desktop machine. Did any of you figure this out?

4.) The same FAQ mentions the "Jaeggi mode" - someone is playing regularly on D13B level, and in their list of recommendations they recommend you turn this mode on. Since BW doesn't seem to work on the Mac, could someone tell me whether it's possible to configure brainscale's version of it to get it as close to "Jaeggi mode" as possible, and if yes then how?

Thank you all for reading, and I'm looking forward to hearing your responses.

Warm regards,

-Ben

benp...@tacol.biz

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May 25, 2022, 1:14:13 AM5/25/22
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> ...... 3.) I have noticed that in the "Dual N Back FAQ" that some of you have quoted, and also in this mailing list, there has been some mentions of the "Brain workshop" software - which I have downloaded, but I'm disappointed to see it does not run on my newest Mac. I don't have easy access to a windows desktop machine. Did any of you figure this out?......

1. Download Vmware Fusion, which is free. Then, create a new virtual machine with Windows 7. It's not necessary to upgrade the windows 7, because you use it for Brain workshop only. Power on the VM.

2. Plug in an USB drive ( in FAT 32 format ), and copy the Brain workshop application to the USB drive.

3. Eject and plug in the USB drive again, VMWare Fusion will ask you if you want this drive connected to the Mac or VM. Choose VM.

Then, you can install the Brain workshop on the VM.

Hope it helps. :)

Ben Racz

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May 25, 2022, 4:35:29 AM5/25/22
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well... not really, to be honest. sure I could spend all that time and effort, and do other things to make it work if I wanted, but  the developer apparently took it upon themselves to compile a mac os x version, so that one doesn't have to go through all that. except then the project got abandoned or something? very frustrating.

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Ben Racz

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Jul 6, 2022, 6:28:25 AM7/6/22
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Hey Everyone,

I don't know if you guys care, but I've managed to get someone to compile this for the new mac os x,

Find the executable with the source code and compilation instructions here:


I'm used to brainscale.net's style of rectangles (without the 3d effect) so I'll probably also get that changed.

If the download link doesn't work, let me know. If you did download this and you found it useful, also let me know so I know it was worth sharing this, and then I'll share the new version as well.

Have a happy brain,

-Ben

Tim

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Feb 27, 2025, 3:48:10 PMFeb 27
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Hey,

By the way, your brain workshop edit has been working well for me, and I appreciate it. Your app is the best way to do quad n back on mac.

Wilma Skillma

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Feb 27, 2025, 10:50:13 PMFeb 27
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Shorter milliseconds intervals is superior in my experience
 I do 1 second. It improves processing speed

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