Re: Working Memory Training in Relation to Anxiety, Stress, and Motivation

[Thomas]

Hi Robert,

Just wanted to let you know that your link here isn't working to the relational reasoning game:

Relational Framework N-back

http://competicionmental.appspot.com/router?page=rfnback&en=1

Could you fix it? Thank you for sharing your work.

On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 4:47:12 AM UTC+10 robert...@gmail.com wrote:

Interventions for improving working memory (WM) can be used to reduce anxiety-related symptoms. Here, we examine how WM training can impact trait anxiety and test anxiety for upcoming examinations, and the role of motivation and the sustainability of training effects were also examined. Volunteers were randomly assigned either to control (non-adaptive dual 1-back training, N = 52) or training group (adaptive dual n-back training, N = 49), who trained for 14 consecutive days right before the midterm exams week. Participants completed measures of trait anxiety, test anxiety, and attentional control before and after the intervention and at follow-up times (1 week and 7 weeks). Participants rated how motivated and accomplished they felt after each daily training session. They also rated their perceived performance success and confidence during the exam week at first follow-up session. Results found that adaptive training compared with the non-adaptive control training resulted in reductions in trait anxiety across time. Additionally, exploratory analyses showed that perceived success in the training task was associated with pre-to-post-intervention reductions in test anxiety. Our findings suggest that WM training has the potential to reduce anxiety and test anxiety-related symptoms under stress and emphasize the role of perceived success.

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s41465-020-00176-2

[Thomas]

For now I've come up with an adaptation:

https://new.cognitivefun.net/task/cogfun-23-spatial-working-memory

I just imagine the arrows as logical commands instead, it may even be an improvement.

[Thomas]

Yeah it goes way too fast when it comes to imagining the arrows as logical rules so what I do is simply recall the arrows and spend time performing the logical sequences after they’re all presented.

Yeah if it costs you money on my behalf don’t sweat it Robert only as you please.

I would however be interested in say a dual n back version of the spatial working memory game, where an arrow was presented as an image within the position presented in spatial recall or just a symbol of some kind that represented the number of positions you had to change the position from.

I’ve always thought that the rotating cube was a great idea as well, I’ve also always thought that using imaginary logical rules has helped me far more cognitively than just following what’s presented. The pattern had been that true imaginative abstract reasoning in the context of updating memory has always succeeded memory training alone but only when I incorporated an imaginary component to the former. 

This is what I’ve always done with the relational reasoning task and now what I’m doing with the spatial updating working memory task. 

I’d love to have the two incorporated in some way in the context of a rotating n-back cube however the spatial working memory task incorporated with rotating cube n-back alone would suffice. The rules you’d have to implement for the spatial task would be sufficient in simultaneously analogising them to relational rules I would have to perform on a further imaginative task that I implement there.

I can elaborate further if needed.

If you have a PayPal I can send any funds to just let me know.

On Wednesday, August 4, 2021 at 1:05:41 AM UTC+10 robert...@gmail.com wrote:

Te boxes excersise is too difficult for me. Wow!

El martes, 3 de agosto de 2021 a las 12:03:44 UTC-3, robert chalean escribió:

Google start to billing me more and more . The page that was free two month ago google wants more and more money, so i delte all my pages.

[Thomas]

Honestly though I think I have to move on from software platform enabled brain training and just move on to full blown integrated imagination. I know enough about the mechanics of fluid intelligence enough to create my own theatre of mind in that sense where I continue the underlying principles of cognition and hypothesised cognitive development there. Just to provide some cheese for anyone interested in the same movement I'm looking to integrate method of loci, memory palace related techniques while simultaneously working on fluid intelligence enhancement. 

[itrn...@gmail.com]

What do ppl think here abt SMART? Apparently it's the only consistently validated method of improving fluid intelligence?

I made a syllogism app that allows various difficulties. I fixed all errors related to exporting so it should work now on both windows and mac.

Mac: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NGnz9RHQehbh00yrf-Z568GKks0bu_5l/view?usp=sharing

Windows: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PHdJeBZ2zFrHoRnThuyiJl8RH6rI2Wel/view?usp=sharing

PCK file: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tNaduXn8bUTznR-9M46GGwjNYCQCeoEF/view?usp=sharing

If you download pls lmk your thoughts.

[Thomas]

yeah good, like i said for me i just incorporate the underlying principles into my regular thought process now

for example, RR is just about holding and separating conflict resolution amidst comparison

for set work which is your game its about holding and forming patterns while resolving conflict resolution

applying both of these to real life we have not just the formation known patterns but the determination of patterns expressed through the action of their application. 

and yeah absolutely add symbolisation for determined process, altogether now its pretty obvious why doing such work improves mathematical reasoning and keeping track of "too many females you're dating" and all of their different narratives and names, finally choosing the right someone, its the same mathematical reasoning at work

[77]

Heh mate,

Is the pck in the exe? Otherwise could include it separately.

Thanks

This is the error message

OS is windows 10 64bit

[성문규]

No that’s why I gave you the 3rd link

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[Nitesh Yadav]

Sounds good, doesnt work

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[성문규]

What about it doesn’t work? I posted the lonk to the pck file

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[Thomas]

game worked fine for me (mac)

he might just not know how to open and use it properly, of course i don't know what he's running it on

On Monday, August 9, 2021 at 4:15:35 PM UTC+10 itrn...@gmail.com wrote:

[Thomas]

hey robert, how much would it cost me for you to put 3D rotation back online? I use it for my relational reasoning imaginative streaming process, to me its a fantastic idea, right now just using n-back from brain turk but i'd much rather have a 3d rotating cube to be simultaneously activating spatial regions more a bit

thank you, and please its no big deal just let me know the $ and i can sort it out freely available to anyone else as you please

On Wednesday, August 4, 2021 at 1:05:41 AM UTC+10 robert...@gmail.com wrote:

Te boxes excersise is too difficult for me. Wow!

El martes, 3 de agosto de 2021 a las 12:03:44 UTC-3, robert chalean escribió:

Google start to billing me more and more . The page that was free two month ago google wants more and more money, so i delte all my pages.

El lunes, 2 de agosto de 2021 a las 21:23:08 UTC-3, Thomas escribió:

[Leonardo]

Robert, make .exes for Silogismos and Leerencolores, please.