Is there an explanation for why I'm so thick?
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vir quidam
Mar 20, 2012, 5:15:07 PM3/20/12
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Chronic pessimism
Slow at learning
Inability to be inspired, think creatively
Below average scores on three recent (2011/2012) thinking skills timed
tests.
Very slow at doing homework.
Persistent, to the point of neurosis, self-comparison with more
successful people my age.
Inability to solve logical or maths problems beyond the level of
obviousness.
Has this anything to do with my childhood environment or do I just
lack the alleles that give me mental acuity?
Is there a cure for this grave personal injustice (hint of melodrama)?
Slow at learning
Inability to be inspired, think creatively
Below average scores on three recent (2011/2012) thinking skills timed
tests.
Very slow at doing homework.
Persistent, to the point of neurosis, self-comparison with more
successful people my age.
Inability to solve logical or maths problems beyond the level of
obviousness.
Has this anything to do with my childhood environment or do I just
lack the alleles that give me mental acuity?
Is there a cure for this grave personal injustice (hint of melodrama)?
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Zaraki
Mar 20, 2012, 5:40:01 PM3/20/12
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Well, we are all given different talents at birth which deeply affect
what we can achieve and become, yet upbringing can affect what you
affect as well.
Are you good at focusing on a task? Poor focus means that you
distribute your capacity over several subjects, meaning that the
result on each one lowers.
If I were you I would also take a closer look on autism and such to
see if it rings any bells, or maybe go to a psychiatrist to see if you
can get a diagnosis. Your extreme persistence might be a sign that
something is wrong. Do you have other traits that differs from the
norm? Did you learn to speak at a normal age? How do others view you?
Way more information is needed, and perhaps professional help.
what we can achieve and become, yet upbringing can affect what you
affect as well.
Are you good at focusing on a task? Poor focus means that you
distribute your capacity over several subjects, meaning that the
result on each one lowers.
If I were you I would also take a closer look on autism and such to
see if it rings any bells, or maybe go to a psychiatrist to see if you
can get a diagnosis. Your extreme persistence might be a sign that
something is wrong. Do you have other traits that differs from the
norm? Did you learn to speak at a normal age? How do others view you?
Way more information is needed, and perhaps professional help.
vir quidam
Mar 20, 2012, 6:01:29 PM3/20/12
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I have no obvious traits that differ from others. I tend to avoid
crowds of people and keep as few friends as possible (simply by being
quiet). I learned to speak at a normal age.
Others do view me as a fairly smart, occasionally interesting person.
I am very sensitive to people undermining my intelligence. Many people
complain that I work too hard, often to little or no end. I always
stumble upon the hard and time consuming way of doing something, often
to no end. I tend to become very very lazy if I experience failure in
a task I work hard at.
For instance, I play the violin and last year for a graded exam, I
practised at least 2 hours a day for 3 months, really determined to
get a high mark. A few days before the exam I was depressed, angry and
frustrated round the clock and on exam day, my whole body felt as if
burning and I failed the exam. I got neither a high mark, nor even the
pass mark! Following a crushing defeat, I avoided the violin for 6
months and my skill level dropped dramatically. A similar event
happened just a few months ago in a violin competition. I experienced
vengeful thoughts about both my examiners, who gave me the low marks.
crowds of people and keep as few friends as possible (simply by being
quiet). I learned to speak at a normal age.
Others do view me as a fairly smart, occasionally interesting person.
I am very sensitive to people undermining my intelligence. Many people
complain that I work too hard, often to little or no end. I always
stumble upon the hard and time consuming way of doing something, often
to no end. I tend to become very very lazy if I experience failure in
a task I work hard at.
For instance, I play the violin and last year for a graded exam, I
practised at least 2 hours a day for 3 months, really determined to
get a high mark. A few days before the exam I was depressed, angry and
frustrated round the clock and on exam day, my whole body felt as if
burning and I failed the exam. I got neither a high mark, nor even the
pass mark! Following a crushing defeat, I avoided the violin for 6
months and my skill level dropped dramatically. A similar event
happened just a few months ago in a violin competition. I experienced
vengeful thoughts about both my examiners, who gave me the low marks.
jotaro
Mar 20, 2012, 6:42:56 PM3/20/12
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well the first step will be to stop being bothered by it too much.
Zaraki
Mar 20, 2012, 7:16:37 PM3/20/12
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And do you feel anxious around other people? Do you perform better
while you are alone and don't have anything on the line?
From what you are describing you seem overly concerned about the
results of tests and such, which might lead to beeing distraught while
taking them, lowering your score.
while you are alone and don't have anything on the line?
From what you are describing you seem overly concerned about the
results of tests and such, which might lead to beeing distraught while
taking them, lowering your score.
whoisbambam
Mar 20, 2012, 8:24:44 PM3/20/12
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vengeful is definitely not a good thing.
:(
You yourself said that you felt depressed, angry, and frustrated.
You ADMITTED that you were nowhere near at your best.
You therefore EARNED the grade, and therefore should not be *vengeful*
If some sociopath breaks in, accosts your mother, you interrupt, fight
him off, he gets arrested--this man you should feel vengeful toward--
he was going to commit serious harm against your loved one (this is
just an example--u get the idea).
So, we must be careful about 'projecting' our feelings of frustration
onto others with vengence. Instead, accept it, and find an outlet for
release--some sort of exercise or sport for instance--activity that
requires strain.
the fact that you are AWARE of things and are sharing them--this is
huge. This is the first step.
it is difficult to give advice--each person is just so unique. really
it can not be done with a degree of accuracy from some online person
who is not intimate with your details and perhaps who also has the
insight and training.
i am a firm believer in DNB. Personally, i would never stop. 30minutes
a day, 5days a week, 6months, then 3days a week forever.
I would suggest learning all the mathematics courses from khanacademy.
I think this may grow your mind and boost esteem.
it is hard to say about your case, but i have heard that high quality
fish oil, in particular EPA, like what is found in minami purepa, at
1500mg a day with food--for some ppl epa fish oil may boost ability to
handle stress and help with focus.
there may be cheaper, bottled alternatives that needs refrigeration--
just make sure it is nearly pure epa or very high ratio like at least
4X epa to 1X dha or better.
personally, weight training with 35minutes every other day on the
treadmill at 75% target HR (for most, that is like 120-140, depending
on age and fitness level) may also improve self image, feelings of
well-being, etc
i have gone from 237lbs to 167lbs in about 6months with good
musculature and i feel better about myself (but my abdomen still sucks
with about 1/2inch loose fat from lovehandles to lovehandles.
but, i feel better about myself.
these things i have mentioned *might* make u feel better and cope
better.
it is extremely important that you not be vengeful toward humanity--
ppl are what/who they are--this is just the way things are. Imagine if
you had a son, and if a teacher was vengeful TOWARD your son for
whatever reason. It is not right.
it is important to get this under control.
if these things dont work, it may be necessary to seek the advice of a
psychiatrist who uses psychotherapy that has good reviews on
healthgrades and similar sites--u would need a proficient counselor.
Perhaps this person could help u develop better skills with handling
these feelings.
I know somebody who felt like that for awhile--vengeful. He worked
with a pscyhiatrist who did pscyhotherapy for about 6months, 1day a
week. the doctor started this guy on 5mg Buspar three times a day, and
eventually 10mg three times a day--these feelings left. Eventually he
went down to 5mg twice a day and eventually was off the medicine. For
'very stressful' events he prescribed Inderal. He first tried 10mg
inderal before stressful events (like for his speech class, 30minutes
before the speech) and eventually settled at 20mg making sure it didnt
drop BP--this was only as needed right before a very stressful event
because it blocks the effects of adrenalin--otherwise it can make u
tired as hell because it is very lipophilic and crosses the brain
barrier--which is also how it can make you feel mentally calm. I think
inderal is banned for violin contests because it is so effective and
making their hands steady/calm--also was used in shooting contests for
a steady hand.
Maybe there is another doctor who knows about these same things if it
is even necessary.
neurocog has a new game/headset (Focus Pocus) that uses neurofeedback
that may improve attention--kindof expensive tho, but maybe not in the
long run if it works
http://www.neurocog.com.au/
http://store.neurosky.com/products/focus-pocus
http://store.neurosky.com/products/mindwave-1
i have no idea if it works. i have no idea if they have a bundle
offer.
good luck.
:(
You yourself said that you felt depressed, angry, and frustrated.
You ADMITTED that you were nowhere near at your best.
You therefore EARNED the grade, and therefore should not be *vengeful*
If some sociopath breaks in, accosts your mother, you interrupt, fight
him off, he gets arrested--this man you should feel vengeful toward--
he was going to commit serious harm against your loved one (this is
just an example--u get the idea).
So, we must be careful about 'projecting' our feelings of frustration
onto others with vengence. Instead, accept it, and find an outlet for
release--some sort of exercise or sport for instance--activity that
requires strain.
the fact that you are AWARE of things and are sharing them--this is
huge. This is the first step.
it is difficult to give advice--each person is just so unique. really
it can not be done with a degree of accuracy from some online person
who is not intimate with your details and perhaps who also has the
insight and training.
i am a firm believer in DNB. Personally, i would never stop. 30minutes
a day, 5days a week, 6months, then 3days a week forever.
I would suggest learning all the mathematics courses from khanacademy.
I think this may grow your mind and boost esteem.
it is hard to say about your case, but i have heard that high quality
fish oil, in particular EPA, like what is found in minami purepa, at
1500mg a day with food--for some ppl epa fish oil may boost ability to
handle stress and help with focus.
there may be cheaper, bottled alternatives that needs refrigeration--
just make sure it is nearly pure epa or very high ratio like at least
4X epa to 1X dha or better.
personally, weight training with 35minutes every other day on the
treadmill at 75% target HR (for most, that is like 120-140, depending
on age and fitness level) may also improve self image, feelings of
well-being, etc
i have gone from 237lbs to 167lbs in about 6months with good
musculature and i feel better about myself (but my abdomen still sucks
with about 1/2inch loose fat from lovehandles to lovehandles.
but, i feel better about myself.
these things i have mentioned *might* make u feel better and cope
better.
it is extremely important that you not be vengeful toward humanity--
ppl are what/who they are--this is just the way things are. Imagine if
you had a son, and if a teacher was vengeful TOWARD your son for
whatever reason. It is not right.
it is important to get this under control.
if these things dont work, it may be necessary to seek the advice of a
psychiatrist who uses psychotherapy that has good reviews on
healthgrades and similar sites--u would need a proficient counselor.
Perhaps this person could help u develop better skills with handling
these feelings.
I know somebody who felt like that for awhile--vengeful. He worked
with a pscyhiatrist who did pscyhotherapy for about 6months, 1day a
week. the doctor started this guy on 5mg Buspar three times a day, and
eventually 10mg three times a day--these feelings left. Eventually he
went down to 5mg twice a day and eventually was off the medicine. For
'very stressful' events he prescribed Inderal. He first tried 10mg
inderal before stressful events (like for his speech class, 30minutes
before the speech) and eventually settled at 20mg making sure it didnt
drop BP--this was only as needed right before a very stressful event
because it blocks the effects of adrenalin--otherwise it can make u
tired as hell because it is very lipophilic and crosses the brain
barrier--which is also how it can make you feel mentally calm. I think
inderal is banned for violin contests because it is so effective and
making their hands steady/calm--also was used in shooting contests for
a steady hand.
Maybe there is another doctor who knows about these same things if it
is even necessary.
neurocog has a new game/headset (Focus Pocus) that uses neurofeedback
that may improve attention--kindof expensive tho, but maybe not in the
long run if it works
http://www.neurocog.com.au/
http://store.neurosky.com/products/focus-pocus
http://store.neurosky.com/products/mindwave-1
i have no idea if it works. i have no idea if they have a bundle
offer.
good luck.
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vir quidam
Mar 21, 2012, 3:09:17 AM3/21/12
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The only time I do anything right is when I set my own deadlines and
goals. I usually perform better alone, but without others to motivate
me I could fall into oblivious laziness.
goals. I usually perform better alone, but without others to motivate
me I could fall into oblivious laziness.
Attila
Mar 21, 2012, 7:20:28 AM3/21/12
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Sounds to me like you're still in high school? If so this sounds about
right for an introvert (myself included.) My suggestion for academics
is go to www.khanacademy.com, I know in school I occasionally felt
asking for clarification would make me seem stupid in front of
everyone one else, this lead to gaps in my knowledge base and made
learning anything more complex all the harder (especially grammar)
Khanacademy solves that and it's 100% free. Great stuff
As far as the vengeful thoughts that's normal. So long as you don't
act on them :) everyone wants to throttle someone now and then.
Don't worry so much about your marks. You need to shrug off criticism,
real or perceived, and realize that it's all down to what you want. If
playing violin makes you happy and you feel you are getting better at
it GREAT! When I played stand up bass I was horrid but I had a blast
doing it. But it wasn't until after I stopped caring about the grade
and started caring about the experience that I got any good. You learn
best when having fun, and you only have fun when you focus on the task
and not the grade.
right for an introvert (myself included.) My suggestion for academics
is go to www.khanacademy.com, I know in school I occasionally felt
asking for clarification would make me seem stupid in front of
everyone one else, this lead to gaps in my knowledge base and made
learning anything more complex all the harder (especially grammar)
Khanacademy solves that and it's 100% free. Great stuff
As far as the vengeful thoughts that's normal. So long as you don't
act on them :) everyone wants to throttle someone now and then.
Don't worry so much about your marks. You need to shrug off criticism,
real or perceived, and realize that it's all down to what you want. If
playing violin makes you happy and you feel you are getting better at
it GREAT! When I played stand up bass I was horrid but I had a blast
doing it. But it wasn't until after I stopped caring about the grade
and started caring about the experience that I got any good. You learn
best when having fun, and you only have fun when you focus on the task
and not the grade.
th3n3d
Mar 21, 2012, 8:40:17 AM3/21/12
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Chances are your testing below your actual abilities, probably
sabotaging yourself. Simply the fact your posting on this forum means
your intelligence is not as low as you think. Meditation,
Psychotherapy, etc would all help.
sabotaging yourself. Simply the fact your posting on this forum means
your intelligence is not as low as you think. Meditation,
Psychotherapy, etc would all help.
Colin Dickerman
Mar 21, 2012, 9:13:56 PM3/21/12
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Nervousness could explain what he's talking about. He may be suffering
from social anxiety, among other types. You can't seem to do anything
right when you're nervous.
from social anxiety, among other types. You can't seem to do anything
right when you're nervous.
vir quidam
Mar 24, 2012, 1:28:56 PM3/24/12
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Note, everyone, that my comments are not based on a self-prejudice,
but the opinion formed after years of failing at things.
I would like realistic advice on how to become a better problem-
solver, learner and musician.
but the opinion formed after years of failing at things.
I would like realistic advice on how to become a better problem-
solver, learner and musician.
whoisbambam
Mar 24, 2012, 1:56:32 PM3/24/12
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learner: dnb, cardiovascular exercise 35minutes, 75% max. target HR,
uninterrupted, 3-4days a week, bacognize 250mg bid swanson vitamins,
repetition system like anki, more crystallized knowledge from which to
pull/formulate (khanacademy, open university), logic courses, decision-
making from greatcourses, chessmentor, foreign language (italian
course from 200 words a day), adequate sleep, sound nutrition, perhaps
a memory system based on mnemonics like somebody just posted here (i
think Collin) which was quite detailed as to how to adapt a system for
wrote memorization tactics to augment working memory--then rehearse
it, improve/practice visualizations
uninterrupted, 3-4days a week, bacognize 250mg bid swanson vitamins,
repetition system like anki, more crystallized knowledge from which to
pull/formulate (khanacademy, open university), logic courses, decision-
making from greatcourses, chessmentor, foreign language (italian
course from 200 words a day), adequate sleep, sound nutrition, perhaps
a memory system based on mnemonics like somebody just posted here (i
think Collin) which was quite detailed as to how to adapt a system for
wrote memorization tactics to augment working memory--then rehearse
it, improve/practice visualizations
The.Fourth.Deviation.
Mar 25, 2012, 2:34:11 AM3/25/12
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Look up bipolar disorder on wiki. You sound like a girl I just dated
who had that. May not match 100
Percent but might give you a good start
who had that. May not match 100
Percent but might give you a good start
whoisbambam
Mar 25, 2012, 3:18:23 AM3/25/12
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fourth.deviation
i think he already posted that he was bipolar, and that he believes it
(bipolar) is a kidney disease
i believe he stated that he is taking a couple different alternative
therapy in lieu of meds
On Mar 25, 1:34 am, "The.Fourth.Deviation." <davidsky...@gmail.com>
wrote:
i think he already posted that he was bipolar, and that he believes it
(bipolar) is a kidney disease
i believe he stated that he is taking a couple different alternative
therapy in lieu of meds
On Mar 25, 1:34 am, "The.Fourth.Deviation." <davidsky...@gmail.com>
wrote:
vir quidam
Mar 25, 2012, 5:44:36 AM3/25/12
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Are you referring to me?
jotaro
Mar 25, 2012, 7:37:44 AM3/25/12
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the answers that you seek you shall not find here.
this group isnt the answer to your problems cause nobody solved it here.
everybody just shoots into 2346537334 directions and hopes to hit the target even if its far from sight.
whoisbambam
Mar 25, 2012, 1:29:10 PM3/25/12
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no, upon review it seems i was thinking of hiphopopotamus and Left
Cause
vir, if u would stick to the suggestions u urself have written in this
forum b4 and factor in the suggestions made to u, i am pretty sure
that in time u wont feel the way u have described here in the forums
i dont think it is a good idea to go 'all out' too much, like the
2.5hrs of dnb a day, or excessive cardiovascular exercise, etc--many
ppl would become exhausted and discouraged...........but if u do the
suggestions day in, day out, 30minutes of this, that, etc, for
6months..........i think u would feel the improvement, albeit not
DRASTIC..........
if u take all the suggestions ppl here have offered, and do everything
with less intensity/absoluteness, but remain consistent, u may fair
well
Cause
vir, if u would stick to the suggestions u urself have written in this
forum b4 and factor in the suggestions made to u, i am pretty sure
that in time u wont feel the way u have described here in the forums
i dont think it is a good idea to go 'all out' too much, like the
2.5hrs of dnb a day, or excessive cardiovascular exercise, etc--many
ppl would become exhausted and discouraged...........but if u do the
suggestions day in, day out, 30minutes of this, that, etc, for
6months..........i think u would feel the improvement, albeit not
DRASTIC..........
if u take all the suggestions ppl here have offered, and do everything
with less intensity/absoluteness, but remain consistent, u may fair
well
Arky
Mar 25, 2012, 6:04:22 PM3/25/12
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Colin Dickerman
Mar 25, 2012, 10:32:00 PM3/25/12
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Pick up techniques have helped thousands of people be more successful
with the opposite sex. It's a place where akward guys go to learn how
to improve themselves...and it works for them.
with the opposite sex. It's a place where akward guys go to learn how
to improve themselves...and it works for them.
whoisbambam
Mar 25, 2012, 10:40:13 PM3/25/12
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i've purchased a few different products.......thus far, it is all crap/
bs unless u r still in highschool or with some immature college
girls........
IMO
On Mar 25, 9:32 pm, Colin Dickerman <collin.silvern...@gmail.com>
wrote:
bs unless u r still in highschool or with some immature college
girls........
IMO
On Mar 25, 9:32 pm, Colin Dickerman <collin.silvern...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Arky
Mar 26, 2012, 12:22:14 AM3/26/12
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It's not about the PUA. It's about the search for a certain kind of
answer to a certain kind of question.
There's absolutely no reason why this guy can't be mediocre. There's
absolutely no reason why he can't be worse than his peers with no
evidence to the contrary. There's no reason why he shouldn't fail to
meet up with his own expectations, and there's little in the way to be
gained in searching for some reason for this "grave injustice", as
there was no injustice to begin with.
I know how it feels like to be this guy, but the closest thing to
freeing my mind from the burden of faux-Faustian suffering came from
that comic. Your mileage may vary. Alternately, there's this:
http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2012/02/my_fiancee_is_pushing_me_away.html
On Mar 25, 6:32 pm, Colin Dickerman <collin.silvern...@gmail.com>
wrote:
answer to a certain kind of question.
There's absolutely no reason why this guy can't be mediocre. There's
absolutely no reason why he can't be worse than his peers with no
evidence to the contrary. There's no reason why he shouldn't fail to
meet up with his own expectations, and there's little in the way to be
gained in searching for some reason for this "grave injustice", as
there was no injustice to begin with.
I know how it feels like to be this guy, but the closest thing to
freeing my mind from the burden of faux-Faustian suffering came from
that comic. Your mileage may vary. Alternately, there's this:
http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2012/02/my_fiancee_is_pushing_me_away.html
On Mar 25, 6:32 pm, Colin Dickerman <collin.silvern...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Colin Dickerman
Mar 26, 2012, 1:31:34 AM3/26/12
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Purchase...products? No need to do that in the age of the internet. I
can't believe you did everything they say and you ended up with
nothing. A lot of the ideas center around meetings lots of
girls...even if you suck at it, meeting 300 girls will lead to
something.
can't believe you did everything they say and you ended up with
nothing. A lot of the ideas center around meetings lots of
girls...even if you suck at it, meeting 300 girls will lead to
something.
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vir quidam
Mar 27, 2012, 1:25:20 PM3/27/12
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I can very easily get rid of this burden simply by not thinking!
However, I would urge myself to develop my thinking skills so that I
may get into a good university. How do I go about achieving this goal?
What can I do (and I'll do anything, given the time I have this
summer)?
On Mar 26, 5:22 am, Arky <kenneth.bruskiew...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I know how it feels like to be this guy, but the closest thing to
> freeing my mind from the burden of faux-Faustian suffering came from
> that comic. Your mileage may vary. Alternately, there's this:http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2012/02/my_fiancee_is_pushing_me_away....
However, I would urge myself to develop my thinking skills so that I
may get into a good university. How do I go about achieving this goal?
What can I do (and I'll do anything, given the time I have this
summer)?
On Mar 26, 5:22 am, Arky <kenneth.bruskiew...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I know how it feels like to be this guy, but the closest thing to
> freeing my mind from the burden of faux-Faustian suffering came from
whoisbambam
Mar 27, 2012, 2:55:34 PM3/27/12
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geesh.
there just is NO helping some ppl
there just is NO helping some ppl
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