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Nov 5, 2014, 11:03:58 AM11/5/14
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Dear Friends,

We would like to request and suggest from the Braille Section on the contents discussed in the Group. The rights of expression and distribution are always appreciated. At the same time, the foremost intention of this group started by Braille section of the Library is to share articles on education, empowerment and employment of our visually challenged friends. 

We request you all to use the Group more to bring out the writing talents in you, share those information that would help somebody in education or employment, let us debate on literature, science and technology. 

As a group moderated by a Government organization, we have been requesting previously also and could not permit political, cinema and other such sensational issues being discussed among the group members and in this forum. Please bear with and such contents would be moderated here after.

Thanks for understanding in the best interest of the Group.

With best regards,

Braille Section Team
Anna Centenary Library
Chennai

Ashoak P

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Nov 5, 2014, 11:16:02 AM11/5/14
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thank you sir,
we understand such things. everything comes under the blanket of
education. I think all the articles have been shared moderately.
more than that these kind of education gives the clear picture of the
scenario of the movement.I think sharing this kind of things will
never misguide us.
thank you sir.
sorry sir if I'm mistaken.
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Vetrivel Murugan Adhimoolam

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Nov 5, 2014, 12:11:20 PM11/5/14
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Hi everyone,

Here are my humble views: I totally agree that openly discussing or
chastising any political group or individual should be avoided in a
list like this. However if this is a response to the essay written by
Boobathi in Tamil, then I beg to disagree. The Tamil katturai written
by him was totally based on various government orders, RTI responses,
court decisions etc. So in a nut shell, what he wrote was a response
to our administrative structural lethargic attitude rather than
targeting anyone politically. Leaving aside the fact that the essay
deals with issues directly affecting visually challenged persons, it
clearly raises the concept of protective discrimination, which is a
significant element of our Indian constitution and I am sure that
anyone preparing for competitive exam should be aware of such concepts
and their implementational problems. Henceforth it is my humble
request to moderators to very carefully consider contents of e-mail
messages before categorizing them as purely political. Again, these
are just my personal views.

Thanks and Regards,

Vetri.
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aranga. raja tamil

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Nov 5, 2014, 12:27:00 PM11/5/14
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இதை பின்பற்ற நானும் அழைக்கிரேன்
"தோல்வியின் அடையாளம் தயக்கம்!
வெற்றியின் அடையாளம் துணிச்சல்!
துணிந்தவர் தோற்றதில்லை!!
தயங்கியவர்" வென்றதில்லை!!.
நட்புடன்
ர. ராஜா. M. a, M ed, Phd'
முனைவர் பட்ட ஆய்வாளர்
தமிழ்த்துறை
மாநிலக் கல்லூரி
சென்னை 5.

Balanagendran

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Nov 9, 2014, 1:19:54 AM11/9/14
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Dear moderators and fellow members,
i've been expecting the above message from the braille section team
for more than 7 8 months, finally my expectation began to materialise.
its better late than never, hence my appreciations to the braille
section team. i second your views dear moderators. as members, we have
all the right to freedom of speech and expression, however we all must
inculcate in our minds that every freedom has its reasonable
restrictions which we have to abide. copying and pasting has become
the passion among us to show our presence in the group. we have myriad
of mailing lists in Tamil and English to share the coppied
informations, lets utilise this group in a productive manner so that
we can enhance our skill and widen the borders of the group's purpose.
of course the blanket of education is big. conversely, the blanket has
its own boundary within which we can have everything. i personally
don't believe that copy pasting articles that are film, political, and
entertainment oriented will come under the blanket of education. at
this scenario we must appreciate Mr. Boopathi's article. though it
speaks of politics, it has been produced by him. as the team
appreciates self written articles, this article can also be considered
as self written. if the team hesitates to bear the brunt of such free
expressions, i, as a member will take this pledge and i request my
fellow members to consider this if they subscribe to my idea. whenever
i write any article which are political, critical, and shrewd in
expression, i will add "the above opinion are my personal views", so
that neither the group, nor members who revert to such articles will
have to succumb to unwarranted pressure. finally, lets use this group
in a productive way rather than dumping our coppied contents.
thank you.
"the above opinion are my personal views".
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With Cincere Regards,
Balanagendran. D
Civil service aspirant.
Skype: balanagendran

Boopathi P

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Nov 9, 2014, 3:52:02 AM11/9/14
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dear friends, the article which is often said to have been written by
me is not mine. it was written by Sivakumar M my friend. he has
written the article by analyzing hundreds of RTI letters got from
various depts of TN government. i have only given a reply in
appreciating his selfless contribution to our community. hence, please
don't attribute the article to myself. the real credit and applause
should go to Sivakumar annan.

regards
Boopathi
Regards
Boopathi P
Ph.D research scholar,
department of English Literature,
School of English literary studies,
EFL University.
Hyderabad
Mobile: 09985138783

mahendran u

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Nov 9, 2014, 5:31:45 AM11/9/14
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I would like to bring to your knowledge that whatever being shared in
this foram have carefully been chosen. Some articles do have political
content. But they are to be considered as an annilitical one, being
written in accordence with the existing political senario. I do agree
with our friends that extremely political-ridden article should not be
shared. But I am not prepared to accept that well researched and
analysed articles are also to be avoided. I myself have shared many
article from vinavu, but I have always mentioned at the end that the
perticular article has been taken from the link given below. Moreover,
almost all the articles that I have shared, had much to do with the
socially oppressed groups and highly exploited communities. I
considered that learning, or being aware of these issues do contribute
so much to our learning process. Hense, we are getting educated
sociologically, politically and culturally. Do not isolate education
from that of day today social happenings. Being told those conditions,
Where there is a problem to Brailleacl even after mentioning the
oragin of a shared content? Of course, there has to be so much
empowerment based sharing in terms of scientific and technological
advancement. If you are only ready to discuss the output content by
keeping aside the process which involves countless voices and
political forces to that output, how your discussion be fulfilled? For
example, without knowing the problems fased by nokia workers, and
other problems encountered by working class people, how can you have
a full-fledged understanding of prevailing sociological condition? You
have a right to what to read and what not to read. Equally we have a
right to share what fits in this foram. I request do not rate all the
content are infused with political intention. If you want certain
things to be avoided, tell it then and there, by pointing out what
wrong has actually committed by shareing such message. If you tell it
after seven month, how are we to know what was wrong and which were
not? As our professer used to say, "You need not mistake the messanger
for the message". Message is a message whether you accept or avoid.
Let me put it clearly, all of us are ready to go by the regulations of
this valuable group, which is being opperated for our benifit.
Thanks a lot to each of you.

"What I have shared above are my personal views."
Never do tomorrow what you can do today, procrastination is the thief of time.
Beautifully said by the ever great Dickens!


With regards for happiness ever,
U. Mahendran,
Ph.D researcher,
Department of English,
Pondicherry University.

Phone: 9944505154
Mail: mahendra...@gmail.com

Vetrivel Murugan Adhimoolam

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Nov 9, 2014, 6:19:01 AM11/9/14
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Just to add, Most members on the list are from social science
background and henceforth social sciences, for that matter even
natural sciences cannot be separated from politics. Just because
questions like: what is the socio-political and historical background
of a writer? who does fund a particular research and how does he/she
benifit from the outcome of a given research? What are political
motives behind certain intelectual productions? etc may be political
and unsettling, but it is not an excuse and a meaningful academic
forum has to raise such unsettling questions. Absents of such
questions among Tamilnadu's academic culture is another reason for the
under developped status of social sciences here.

These are my personal views, but largely shared within the academic world!!!!!!

Vetri.
வெற்றி.

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English is my necesity, but Tamil is my identity!!!

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தமிழ் நாடு 636906.

கை பேசி: +919597784596.
மின் அங்ஜல்: avm...@gmail.com
ஸ்கைப் அடயாளம்: vetrivelmurugan

Balanagendran

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Nov 9, 2014, 1:34:52 PM11/9/14
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its good to see your acceptance of my pledge through your revert.
undoubtedly, we can't deny all the articles that portrays the
political aspects in one way or another as articles infused with
politicisation. conversely, it will be dreary, if we consider all the
articles that talks about politics under the purview of sociological
enlightenment. everybody have their own right to read, write, and
selection, no one can declare one as void and the other as legitimate.
as your professer said, "we need not mistake the messenger". so that,
i personally written to braille acl team about some postings which i
felt violative to the group's norms in the past. as i said in my
earlier reply, "every right has its reasonable restrictions". be it
reading, writing, or selecting, it is better to enforce our rights by
abiding the rules and regulations than through violation. i accept the
way you brought to my knowledge about the articles chosen, however
with collective conscience, i have no options but to contradict with
that awareness.
thank you.
"the above are my personal views".
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mahendran u

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Nov 9, 2014, 3:06:16 PM11/9/14
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Friends I must tell you that none has violated the regulations and
expectations of our group. I would say that this has been our practice
since its inception. I do respect the difference of conception one
naturally holds on various ideas. But do not contridict as such
idea/understanding/individualism must have to exist in their own
vested voice with equally atributed right. To be exact, let all sought
of sharing exist, because we have been tied up in a spirit of intimate
comradeship that invisibly comprises regulations without being
reminded. If you further insist, do point out what are all to be kept
aside in our virtual amalgamation. I think that would reduce our
berdon of endless discussion. Instead of asking people to stop such
so-called unwanted content, you can scilence them eather by sharing so
much that would be fitting to this group, or I already said, pointing
out the irrelavency of any shared content then and there. After that,
I am sure, nobody will take any risk what so ever to come out with
similar version.
Thanks a lot again.

"Being said above are my individual opinions".

muruganandan.k

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Nov 9, 2014, 11:48:43 PM11/9/14
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Dear Braille Section Team and Friends of the group, it is a universal
truth that nothing spoken, written or done is free from deliborate or
inadvertent political motives in a collective human unit. at the same
time, I also fully agree that the Braille Section Team has its own
right to restrict or moderate what is shared on a group started and
moderated by it. hence I subscribe to Mr.Mahendran's view that the
contents which are thought inappropriate could be pointed out then and
there so that the contents of such kind will be naturally avoided.
considering the time when this restriction was posted, I am led to
doubt wheather certain persons/organizations objected the contents of
Mr.M.Sivakumar Annan's article to the Braille Section Team. if so, I
strongly condemn those persons who objected to that particular article
since such an objection is against the community at large. I have
immense respect for the Braille Section Team and please mistake my
comment as directed against the Team. I would like to suggest to the
team that you could kindly put a bottom line message that the contents
shared here reflect the member's view and not moderator's view.
it goes without saying that whatever i write is my own opinion unless
stated otherwise. hence it is not a much sensible idea to write the
same in every mail we send.
"THE OPPOSITE OF LOVE IS NOT HATRED, BUT INDIFFERENCE"
MURUGANANDAN.K
Ph.D Scholar,
Department of English,
Pondicherry University,
puducherry-14
mobile:+919787871008.

Balanagendran

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Nov 12, 2014, 6:20:09 AM11/12/14
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Friends, with great respect i second the view of spirit of intimate
association of all of us via this platform. while complying with the
set synchronisation, the indubitable duty of commission and omission
of necessary and unnecessary representations respectively through
model code of directions can't be put to member's franchise by the
propounders also needs the reflection of us. there is no question of
compromising individualism, however when collective conscience come to
pass, some vested interests of the individual will have to inhale the
exclusionary impacts. of course there has been violations of not only
the group's model code of conduct, but also the integrity of all of us
through one of our members who blind sighted everyone with the
provision of www.sikams.com as the source mentioned in all the
articles which he or she posted. i, as a member, written to the team
to look into this matter and to expedite the process of renovation of
the group's integrity in general and all of ours in particular. thus,
i differ from your subrogation of nonviolation of group's code by
anyone of our members. you might not have been the cause for the
violation that will not indemnify and assure the entirety of
nonviolation of all. asper Mr. Muruganandam sir's observations, it is
to be condemned if any individual, or organisation indulged in the
proliferation of their pomposity in politicising Mr. Shivakumar's
self-written content. i, as a member of a mailing list, always
prefered to be a self-written member. for that notion, i can't
propagate the same whereas, i can motivate others to become a primary
data holders. it is up to them whether to focus on their
self-exposition or not. finally, as a member of braille ACL, i would
like to take my variance on any article sent to the group to the team
rather than directly countering the member. because, this is all about
group's interest. the things that are violative to my perception can
be vice versa to the group.
thank you.
"above are my personal views".
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