Dave Dee does a good thing.

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Grill

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Apr 1, 2008, 10:02:54 PM4/1/08
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I am subscribed to David DeAngelo's email newsletter and normally find
his writing to be a fairly interesting read. He answers questions
from his readers on various bits of trouble they have in their love
life-- although of course there's the occasional success story where
the guy states that C+F totally turned their love lives around.

A few days ago I came across this question answer session that I
simply couldn't pass up without saluting Dave Dee for his answer.
Here it is:
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***QUESTION***

I just used cocky+funny in an email to an ex-
girlfriend. She wrote back saying, "what's with
the attitude? Do you find it increases your
client's confidence in you when you comment on
their rack?" Not a good sign. What can I do? She
is getting married in two weeks, but I am hoping
she eventually gets back together and/or has lots
of sex with me. She broke up with me five years
ago because I cheated on her. I've been trying to
save it ever since, but up until now, had totally
turned into a wuss in my contacts with her. Can I
save this one?

>>>MY COMMENTS:

lol... OK, your question fits into the "You're
the dumbest person I've heard from lately"
category.

Say what?

Let me get this straight...

Your ex broke up with you FIVE YEARS AGO,
because you CHEATED ON HER...

Then you turned into a WUSSY, and have behaved
that way towards her EVER SINCE...

Now she's engaged to be MARRIED in two weeks...

Then you emailed her recently and commented on
her RACK in an attempt to get her back (or at
least get her to have "lots of sex" with you)?

And the best part of your email:

"Can I save this one?"

Somebodypleasebitchslapthismanim mediately!

That's your answer. You can pay me later for
it.
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Instead of saying "If you want to save it, just pick up my other books
and you'll have her all over you!", Dave did exactly what we at
Bradtastics strive to do-- he shut down the misogynist as quickly as
possible and didn't give him any more tools with which to hurt women.

The only difference is, at Bradtastics, we try to prevent the
information from falling into the wrong hands in the first place.

Are there any other examples that you know of where a misogynist gets
shut down in a similar fashion? Post it here as a comment! And feel
free to leave your thoughts on Dave Dee's move, whether you agree or
would have done something different.

-Grill

Tracer

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Apr 2, 2008, 2:14:55 AM4/2/08
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I've misunderstood David D initially...i first read his ebook a few
years ago and up until recently I thought he was like all other mPUAs.

He's a little different and actually strives in developing an inner
self rather than PUA mentality. Sort of like Bradtastics, but you
don't get to see this side of David until you see his more premium
(expensive) stuff. Quite frankly I don't expect many to go that route
(unless torrents are your best friend.)

But I remember an ex-friend of mine who bragged and bragged of his
conquest of this real hot girl that he was able to nail. He spoke
about how tight her pussy was, and you know things that are better off
not to be told to others.

Anyone with a sense of decency knows much better than tell others
about their sex lives with flamboyancy. It's idiotic, nobody really
cares and it's disrespectful to the woman. Why? Because you might say
something that might make people think she is a slut. Girls SELDOM
want to be known as one, even if they fuck a hundred guys a week. But
anyway I know because I've made that same mistake myself in the past
but at least I learned from it. This guy CONTINUES to do so.

But in any case, word got around that he was talking about that stuff.
Of course she got mad/upset - any woman would. So she led him on for
a bit while at the same time beginning to date a more respectful guy.
I forgot the real details but he went around SF trying to look for her
only to find her at her new boyfriend's house. He got shut the FUCK
down.

He cried about it and at first i thought he really loved her. But I
asked him what specifically did he miss about her and he said
something along the lines of "Her size D tits and tight pussy."

Let's just say we're not friends anymore.

I pity guys that objectify women - calling them bitches, selling out
their friends for the sake of getting laid, and endlessly bragging
about it as if there's nothing else of relevance in their lives. To
tell you the truth, if I think about it, the guys that don't brag
about it actually get MORE action that guys that do!

There's more to life than getting laid; it's one of the things that
separates mankind from the animals. I applaud David D

bradtastic

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Apr 3, 2008, 2:33:57 AM4/3/08
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Let's try to keep out language as clean as possible; if for no other
reason than "because we can," although I could get into my reasonings--
that is, perhaps, for another time.

I don't agree with most of the methodology of "the others," but htat's
not to say that I'm instantly calling all of them misogynistic-
assholes.

This isn't a set "rule," per se, but I'd classify this under standard
decency: don't tell your friends much more than you would tell YOUR
parents or your PARTNER's parents. Basically, leave the "intimate
details" out. There are exceptions to this; as it would be clear to
any "member" of one, that polyamory and certain fetish-groups share
information otherwise off-limits.

There's a lot more to life than getting laid, but it's a big part of
it. Keeping this community small(ish) and tight-knit instead of mass-
market means better control--I don't want idiots and abusers to benefit
from my work and research, especially my in-field figures and charts,
stat graphs, layouts, deadfalls and trigger-positions. I have
digitized-sketches of ideal body positions in "top-down perspective,"
but I don't want these things to be improperly-abused.

Beyond ethics is an ENTIRE topic unto-itself--"VALUE." Value can often
supercede morals, ethics, behaviors and other "flaws," and is
something to look into. As perfection is unattainable, my philosophy
rejects the "common beliefs" causing many to obfuscate their flaws.
Instead, mine are thrown-outright into the center-of-attention, center-
ring, spotlight--on. This itself can become a "value" with proper
timing, training/practice, delivery and use. It's just one more great
(not just in my opinion, either) topic to-be covered in the
subscription-service.

B

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