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Apr 13, 2008, 4:25:01 AM4/13/08
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Brad,
I'm looking to refer a few of friends who have no idea what the
Venusian Arts are into the group. They aren't exactly what I would
call misogynist, but at this point they have had ZERO success with
women and probably the most AFC of most people i know.
So I figured hey, these guys have a clean slate to work with and are
probably gonna be a hellova lot more easier to coach that a Venusian
Arts enthusiast. I'm wondering if there are questions/etc i should
ask them or whatever. Let me know.
I'm looking to refer a few of friends who have no idea what the
Venusian Arts are into the group. They aren't exactly what I would
call misogynist, but at this point they have had ZERO success with
women and probably the most AFC of most people i know.
So I figured hey, these guys have a clean slate to work with and are
probably gonna be a hellova lot more easier to coach that a Venusian
Arts enthusiast. I'm wondering if there are questions/etc i should
ask them or whatever. Let me know.
bradtastic
Apr 13, 2008, 4:04:44 PM4/13/08
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Go ahead and refer them here; I'll read their questionnaire and figure
that part out. Careful control of the starting group is more important
to me than it was to "the others," when online "seduction" communities
initially came about, anyone could join. I don't want that. I'd like
to know (for now) essentially the same things that I'd asked you on
the phone. I want to know what they're looking to change, what they're
looking to accomplish, and what they want to learn.
At the moment, I'm actually preparing a one-hour introduction to
social-dynamics, interaction and impression.
I think that the "key differences" in what I'm going to offer is that
it's a full-life enhancement system and stratagem; it's not just about
game, it's about life, business, accomplishing properly-set goals,
incorporating more "GTD" practices into daily life, building better
relationships and friendships... and of most-great importance, I want
to help others maximize time, live life efficiently and happily so as
to live without regret, without boredom and with more overall success.
It's a lofty goal, yes... but things like Backpack and Campfire, a
wiki and a group of people willing to help each other are baby-steps
in the right direction. When the group gets a little-bit bigger, I'd
like it to meet on a monthly basis if possible. Some kind of VIP-type
event, something special, something rewarding, fun... new and
exciting.
that part out. Careful control of the starting group is more important
to me than it was to "the others," when online "seduction" communities
initially came about, anyone could join. I don't want that. I'd like
to know (for now) essentially the same things that I'd asked you on
the phone. I want to know what they're looking to change, what they're
looking to accomplish, and what they want to learn.
At the moment, I'm actually preparing a one-hour introduction to
social-dynamics, interaction and impression.
I think that the "key differences" in what I'm going to offer is that
it's a full-life enhancement system and stratagem; it's not just about
game, it's about life, business, accomplishing properly-set goals,
incorporating more "GTD" practices into daily life, building better
relationships and friendships... and of most-great importance, I want
to help others maximize time, live life efficiently and happily so as
to live without regret, without boredom and with more overall success.
It's a lofty goal, yes... but things like Backpack and Campfire, a
wiki and a group of people willing to help each other are baby-steps
in the right direction. When the group gets a little-bit bigger, I'd
like it to meet on a monthly basis if possible. Some kind of VIP-type
event, something special, something rewarding, fun... new and
exciting.
bradtastic
Apr 13, 2008, 5:09:16 PM4/13/08
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Also, I thought that I'd point out that extending VA into something
more really isn't that hard, it's certainly not easier to teach
someone knowing "nothing," especially if "he" has fear of rejection,
severe approach anxiety, and a lack of experience with and around
women.
Unfortunately, men with "zero success with women" tend to have other
issues unrelated to "social dynamics" and most of the time, those
things need to be fixed first, before massive-gains in socialization
can be made.
However, with that said, I'm still not opposed to it, because helping
these people can be a greatly rewarding thing. Their lives can be
completely changed; they can find happiness they've never had, walk
through doors they'd thought would never open. It is a lot of work, so
I just hope that they're willing to commit.
more really isn't that hard, it's certainly not easier to teach
someone knowing "nothing," especially if "he" has fear of rejection,
severe approach anxiety, and a lack of experience with and around
women.
Unfortunately, men with "zero success with women" tend to have other
issues unrelated to "social dynamics" and most of the time, those
things need to be fixed first, before massive-gains in socialization
can be made.
However, with that said, I'm still not opposed to it, because helping
these people can be a greatly rewarding thing. Their lives can be
completely changed; they can find happiness they've never had, walk
through doors they'd thought would never open. It is a lot of work, so
I just hope that they're willing to commit.
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