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Tracer
Mar 24, 2008, 3:23:12 AM3/24/08
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Greetings fellow members. I'd like to start a little dialogue here so
we can get to know each other. After all, we are a community. Say what
you will but keep in mind why you're here, what you want to accomplish
and a little about yourself (both good and bad.)
First off I'd like to thank Grill and Brad for showing me a different
branch of self-fulfillment than that of mere "pick up." The Venusian
Arts and the "advice" of self-proclaimed mPUAs is only a mere tip of a
larger iceberg in life that must be discovered, but unfortunately many
men follow their dicks around far too much, sacrifice thousands of
dollars in the process and never bother exploring the rest of the
iceberg. At first I was a bit skeptical about Brad's position on this
subject, I mean who wouldn't have second thoughts about siding with a
guy who stands up against a man who had his own TV show, made millions
selling a method that "works", dated some of the hottest women on this
planet and is probably the most highly-praised PUA of all-time? (For
the out of touch, I'm talking about Mystery.)
What directed me down this path was actually advice Tucker Max gave to
his fans on his message boards, as can be read here:
http://messageboard.tuckermax.com/showthread.php?t=1296
The most notable quote being: "And dude, there is no "magic formula"
to get laid. All those idiot hustlers like David DeAngelo and Tom
Leikas are just wrong. If your goal is just to get laid, then good
luck, because that is not what my advice is about. The point of Tucker
Max game is to be confident, be yourself, and everything else comes
inevitably from that."
Tucker's advice rings very clear. Call me gay but I have other,
probably more important things to do in my life than "game" women. Yes
it's fun, yes it's exciting and yes to some point it is a fulfillment.
But I have goals and I don't feel that following the David DeAngelo or
Mystery methods are going to help me accomplish them. I simply don't
have much time nor patience to attempt gaming thousands of women, the
LAST thing I want is my damn phone ringing every 15 minutes from girls
I messed with. Which is what attracted me to Brad's ideas - that they
are possibly more than being able to game women with ease. When I
talked to Brad I understood his concepts a little clearer and they
were precisely what I was looking for. If you're in this group, you
already know his positions so I'm not going to repeat them.
But in any case, I am Tracer and I am a college student in the Bay
Area. My long term goals include either owning my own record label,
having a successful music career, being a JAG Officer in the U.S.
Army, or having investments and assets worth over $1 million. I may or
may not attempt to establish a Political Career, something that would
be greatly tarnished if I were to follow the route of becoming a PUA.
I consider myself a modest connoisseur of food and I could become
quite picky in what I eat if its going to cost me money (Grill knows
this.)
Now to admit my demons:
I get narcissistic at times and feel that I need to be the best at
everything I do. There are times when I become self-centered and
simply don't care about other people's feelings but rather my own. I
have a hard time admitting my wrongdoings and instead of apologizing,
finding reason to justify my actions. It works sometimes and other
times it just makes the situation worse. I'm not sure if I have ADHD,
I used to take medication but not anymore, so if you're talking to me
and I zone out, don't be offended. I have a hard time being social
around people I don't trust but can become quite boisterous if I do.
I've made many mistakes in the past, some so personal that just
thinking of them makes me want to stab myself for being such a dolt.
Regardless of my flaws, my list of friends far surpasses my list of
enemies. There are men and women a like that have called me one of the
most awesome persons they know. But I feel that most of my flaws can
be improved, if not eliminated completely. I feel that if i accomplish
in doing that and follow Brad's methods, the floodgates contributing
to my social stagnation will bust open and i would be even more
motivated to accomplish my goals.
we can get to know each other. After all, we are a community. Say what
you will but keep in mind why you're here, what you want to accomplish
and a little about yourself (both good and bad.)
First off I'd like to thank Grill and Brad for showing me a different
branch of self-fulfillment than that of mere "pick up." The Venusian
Arts and the "advice" of self-proclaimed mPUAs is only a mere tip of a
larger iceberg in life that must be discovered, but unfortunately many
men follow their dicks around far too much, sacrifice thousands of
dollars in the process and never bother exploring the rest of the
iceberg. At first I was a bit skeptical about Brad's position on this
subject, I mean who wouldn't have second thoughts about siding with a
guy who stands up against a man who had his own TV show, made millions
selling a method that "works", dated some of the hottest women on this
planet and is probably the most highly-praised PUA of all-time? (For
the out of touch, I'm talking about Mystery.)
What directed me down this path was actually advice Tucker Max gave to
his fans on his message boards, as can be read here:
http://messageboard.tuckermax.com/showthread.php?t=1296
The most notable quote being: "And dude, there is no "magic formula"
to get laid. All those idiot hustlers like David DeAngelo and Tom
Leikas are just wrong. If your goal is just to get laid, then good
luck, because that is not what my advice is about. The point of Tucker
Max game is to be confident, be yourself, and everything else comes
inevitably from that."
Tucker's advice rings very clear. Call me gay but I have other,
probably more important things to do in my life than "game" women. Yes
it's fun, yes it's exciting and yes to some point it is a fulfillment.
But I have goals and I don't feel that following the David DeAngelo or
Mystery methods are going to help me accomplish them. I simply don't
have much time nor patience to attempt gaming thousands of women, the
LAST thing I want is my damn phone ringing every 15 minutes from girls
I messed with. Which is what attracted me to Brad's ideas - that they
are possibly more than being able to game women with ease. When I
talked to Brad I understood his concepts a little clearer and they
were precisely what I was looking for. If you're in this group, you
already know his positions so I'm not going to repeat them.
But in any case, I am Tracer and I am a college student in the Bay
Area. My long term goals include either owning my own record label,
having a successful music career, being a JAG Officer in the U.S.
Army, or having investments and assets worth over $1 million. I may or
may not attempt to establish a Political Career, something that would
be greatly tarnished if I were to follow the route of becoming a PUA.
I consider myself a modest connoisseur of food and I could become
quite picky in what I eat if its going to cost me money (Grill knows
this.)
Now to admit my demons:
I get narcissistic at times and feel that I need to be the best at
everything I do. There are times when I become self-centered and
simply don't care about other people's feelings but rather my own. I
have a hard time admitting my wrongdoings and instead of apologizing,
finding reason to justify my actions. It works sometimes and other
times it just makes the situation worse. I'm not sure if I have ADHD,
I used to take medication but not anymore, so if you're talking to me
and I zone out, don't be offended. I have a hard time being social
around people I don't trust but can become quite boisterous if I do.
I've made many mistakes in the past, some so personal that just
thinking of them makes me want to stab myself for being such a dolt.
Regardless of my flaws, my list of friends far surpasses my list of
enemies. There are men and women a like that have called me one of the
most awesome persons they know. But I feel that most of my flaws can
be improved, if not eliminated completely. I feel that if i accomplish
in doing that and follow Brad's methods, the floodgates contributing
to my social stagnation will bust open and i would be even more
motivated to accomplish my goals.
bradtastic
Mar 25, 2008, 5:16:56 AM3/25/08
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It's not about "gaming" or "tricking" women.
Also, I WHOLEHEARTEDLY-DISAGREE; there's is a "magic formula" for
"getting laid," it does WORK, and it works pretty-well, I might add,
as evidenced by the massive success that all of the proclaimed "MPUAs"
can account for.
HOWEVER, just because something "works," doesn't make it "right," and
that's my issue. Most of "game" is trickery, most of it doesn't
involve direct-"value-adds" toward the benefit of the relationship,
more-importantly even, most of it neglects "her needs" almost-
entirely.
This is what I'm looking to change. The monthy-service WILL cost
money, but it will be cheaper (or no more than) the other "methods,"
and it's focus will be on "making life better," not simply "getting
women into bed" and "getting laid." However, I should point out that
"sex" is a big part of life, and a significant portion of "happiness."
If you're "not happy" with life, my "bet" is that you're not having a
whole lot of sex. LMK if I'm wrong: if you're unhappy and having tons
of sex (at least five-times per week), I'll pay special attention to
your "case."
I'm not going to ever charge $7000 for a DVD set, and when my book is
published, I intend for it to "work." I agree that yes, one-on-one and
small-group in-field "advice" can't be inexpensive and "good" at the
same time, but I'm not going to gouge people on this.
More to come. I'd write a more-complete reply, but I have information
to recollect, websites to "find again" and articles to rewrite...
stupid HDD failure.
Also, I WHOLEHEARTEDLY-DISAGREE; there's is a "magic formula" for
"getting laid," it does WORK, and it works pretty-well, I might add,
as evidenced by the massive success that all of the proclaimed "MPUAs"
can account for.
HOWEVER, just because something "works," doesn't make it "right," and
that's my issue. Most of "game" is trickery, most of it doesn't
involve direct-"value-adds" toward the benefit of the relationship,
more-importantly even, most of it neglects "her needs" almost-
entirely.
This is what I'm looking to change. The monthy-service WILL cost
money, but it will be cheaper (or no more than) the other "methods,"
and it's focus will be on "making life better," not simply "getting
women into bed" and "getting laid." However, I should point out that
"sex" is a big part of life, and a significant portion of "happiness."
If you're "not happy" with life, my "bet" is that you're not having a
whole lot of sex. LMK if I'm wrong: if you're unhappy and having tons
of sex (at least five-times per week), I'll pay special attention to
your "case."
I'm not going to ever charge $7000 for a DVD set, and when my book is
published, I intend for it to "work." I agree that yes, one-on-one and
small-group in-field "advice" can't be inexpensive and "good" at the
same time, but I'm not going to gouge people on this.
More to come. I'd write a more-complete reply, but I have information
to recollect, websites to "find again" and articles to rewrite...
stupid HDD failure.
Grill
Mar 26, 2008, 6:50:19 AM3/26/08
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And in the spirit of contribution, here's my introduction:
Hello fellow members of this soon-to-be (hopefully) growing
community. In this world I'm known as Grill. I firmly believe in
treating women well and making them happy and aspire to one day be as
great as Bradtastic. I despise misogynists and strive to show that
what is commonly defined as a "pickup artist" is far from acceptable
and that there is much work to be done regarding the stereotypical
"successful" PUA.
I am currently in the process of developing what will eventually be
known as "The Grill Truth" in conjunction with the Bradtastics
teachings. I sincerely hope to contribute and add to this wonderful
community.
In real life, I am an illusionist and create deceptions that amaze and
baffle. Magic is one topic Bradtastic and I can always find common
ground in and it makes me that much more happier that we can converse
about two things I have a passion for: magic and pick up.
I reside within the Bay Area, not too far from Tracer, and as of 3/12,
am recovering from kidney surgery due to congenital issues. I go out
to visit Bradtastic whenever possible and am immensely grateful for
everything he's done thus far to get my butt on track in every aspect
of my life, including the road to happiness.
I hope to see this group take off to extraordinary new levels.
Cheers,
Grill
Hello fellow members of this soon-to-be (hopefully) growing
community. In this world I'm known as Grill. I firmly believe in
treating women well and making them happy and aspire to one day be as
great as Bradtastic. I despise misogynists and strive to show that
what is commonly defined as a "pickup artist" is far from acceptable
and that there is much work to be done regarding the stereotypical
"successful" PUA.
I am currently in the process of developing what will eventually be
known as "The Grill Truth" in conjunction with the Bradtastics
teachings. I sincerely hope to contribute and add to this wonderful
community.
In real life, I am an illusionist and create deceptions that amaze and
baffle. Magic is one topic Bradtastic and I can always find common
ground in and it makes me that much more happier that we can converse
about two things I have a passion for: magic and pick up.
I reside within the Bay Area, not too far from Tracer, and as of 3/12,
am recovering from kidney surgery due to congenital issues. I go out
to visit Bradtastic whenever possible and am immensely grateful for
everything he's done thus far to get my butt on track in every aspect
of my life, including the road to happiness.
I hope to see this group take off to extraordinary new levels.
Cheers,
Grill
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