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Tracer

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Apr 11, 2008, 6:17:10 AM4/11/08
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This is a question I'd like to throw out to Brad and the rest of
Bradtastics. It's about opening sets.

I'm fully aware of the Venusian Arts style of opening but Brad I'd
really like your input as to creating effective openers. This is my
biggest struggle in meeting people in general. What should they
contain, how should they be implemented, anything pertaining to your
style of opening would be helpful. Thanks.

- Tracer

bradtastic

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Apr 11, 2008, 4:31:24 PM4/11/08
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An opener shouldn't be hard. The biggest problem that I know people to
have with this part of game usually stems from nervousness, lack of
confidence, fear of rejection, telegraphing too much intent, and over-
enthusiasm.

Because this is a completely open and public forum (or "group"), I
can't share actual technique or secrets.

VA states to follow the three-second rule unless something breaks the
three-minute rule.

Attitude creates a more effective opener than any particular "line" or
gambit-intro. People seem to think of "gambits" and scripted-openers
as if the techniques are like magic spells: "If I could just say these
words, get them out, perhaps quickly enough, she'll be interested."

An opener should contain basic information, a question, something to
draw a person in, a weak-investment, a request. It should get the
target to WANT to ask, "Who the hell are you and why should I care?"

If your opener can do that, it's good enough.

This is certainly something that I will be elaborating on in the
Backpack group, in-field and on wiki.

B
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Grill

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Apr 11, 2008, 7:41:59 PM4/11/08
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An opener is simply meant to initiate a conversation that opens the
door for attraction. Creating a good opener means you know that you
will not creep a girl out if you deliver it properly. That in itself
should aid you greatly in keeping your cool, at least up until that
point.
There are no set "rules" that must be adhered to as far as creating an
opener goes. Anything that gets her immediate attention and answers
the two questions (Who the hell you are and why should she care) gets
you in the door, which is really all an opener is intended for
anyway.
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