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priyankaa pitcheshwar

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Oct 30, 2012, 8:54:12 PM10/30/12
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Hey ppl.....Jus check out this link..!Its abt a new technology developed by Sulzer Chemtech which makes PLA with improved properties @ low cost...!They hav set up a PLA production plant.

Piyush Uthra

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Oct 31, 2012, 10:09:42 AM10/31/12
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Can someone pls tell me the current status of our bplan in brief? Can we have a meeting today? 

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S.RAGAVI

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Oct 31, 2012, 10:24:45 AM10/31/12
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Yes , even I would like to know what's happening ...

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Shalin Doshi

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Oct 31, 2012, 12:22:32 PM10/31/12
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It's high time the source is finalized!! Technical team it's very very late already, please put forward your points regarding what you've decided about the source. You have to finalize it all by tonight.

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Dhruva Katrekar

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Oct 31, 2012, 12:28:40 PM10/31/12
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look i was happy with algae as a source..need to work a little on cost of cultivation or other ways of procurement

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Shalin Doshi

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Oct 31, 2012, 12:29:58 PM10/31/12
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I told you it's not financially feasible!! There are so many more waste things as sources, why don't you just work on them!

Dhruva Katrekar

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Oct 31, 2012, 12:36:20 PM10/31/12
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algae cultivation may not be feasible...but other ways to procure algae??

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Dhruva Katrekar

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Oct 31, 2012, 12:47:46 PM10/31/12
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look we had a talk with maam the other day and she said that go for something that is already being done in the industry and not something just based on research papers....so far bioplastics industrially are made only from cellulose/starch sources or algae which is picking up. thus the constraint on algae. actually maam just contradicted her words...earlier she had said proof of concept would suffice!!

Vasanth Narayan

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Oct 31, 2012, 1:30:43 PM10/31/12
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as dhruva said everything there is.
There was a engineered species which i think we can go ahead with, but mam has a problem with it.
probably we can do something like sea6 did with marine algae.

I'm currently looking for the source on how cereplast(a bioplastic company) did it.

Vasanth Narayan

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Oct 31, 2012, 1:38:12 PM10/31/12
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the second para first line "the patented process" throws me off.

On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 7:24 AM, priyankaa pitcheshwar <priyan...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey ppl.....Jus check out this link..!Its abt a new technology developed by Sulzer Chemtech which makes PLA with improved properties @ low cost...!They hav set up a PLA production plant.

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priyankaa pitcheshwar

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Oct 31, 2012, 1:43:53 PM10/31/12
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As in???

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Srihita Rudraraju

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Oct 31, 2012, 1:45:35 PM10/31/12
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ya shalin i was there with dhruv that fay.. she said we could add all our innovative methods into an r&d dept. she wants a proper flow chart for the production process.. 



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Vasanth Narayan

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Oct 31, 2012, 1:49:49 PM10/31/12
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if it is patented we can't use any of their techniques....

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priyankaa pitcheshwar

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Oct 31, 2012, 1:54:42 PM10/31/12
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But ma'am is fine with us doing something that is already done....!

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Dhruva Katrekar

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Nov 1, 2012, 9:00:18 AM11/1/12
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its really tough looking for process flow diagrams for bioplastic production...please post if you come across any.

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Srihita Rudraraju

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Nov 1, 2012, 1:34:37 PM11/1/12
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@dhruv will this help?
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priyankaa pitcheshwar

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Nov 1, 2012, 1:36:50 PM11/1/12
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Srihita Rudraraju

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Nov 1, 2012, 1:45:56 PM11/1/12
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hey i found soem tips on cheap algae production...

How will algae production costs come down? Biomimicry. 
Numerous ventures have now successfully raised a combined billion dollars for algae biofuel R&D and production. Innovations and technological breakthroughs will dramatically change the way algae has been produced over the past 30 years. How?
Discover better performing algae cultures. Thirty years ago, scientists used available natural strains such as spirulina and chlorella. Today, backed by R&D budgets, scientists screen, identify and engineer strains of algae with superior and enhanced properties, faster growth rates, and abilities to grow in conditions such as low light and temperature and high saline, brackish or ocean water.
Develop simpler, less costly design and technology. Rethink, redesign and reengineer the entire growing system, harvesting, processing and drying sequence to reduce capital costs for equipment, operating costs and power consumption..
Use marginal land and water just like nature. To grow algae on the large scale needed to produce biofuels, growers should not use valuable fertile agricultural land and scarce fresh water. Rather, find remnant flat land and ocean, saline, brackish or waste water near nutrient resources.
Use waste nutrients just like nature. To lower costs, future algae growing systems will have to follow principals of biomimicry. Recycle waste CO2 effluent, animal and plant wastes, which are costly problems today. Ferment agricultural, animal, industrial and waste streams into carbon, nitrogen, phosphorus, potassium and trace nutrients to feed the algae. Or grow algae by cleaning up municipal waste..
Use all the algae biomass just like nature. Sell all of the algae. Start with the end product and work backwards. What are the products that can be sold, and for how much, and how will markets be developed for those products?
Create multiple revenue streams to offset costs. Environmental services may include CO2 and pollution mitigation, wastewater treatment, biomass and waste heat for generating electricity and even carbon offsets.
Non-fuel algae products may represent the 70% of the algae biomass. Potential revenue streams include algae oil and lipid supplementation in animal and human feed, like healthy omega 3 oils, animal feedstocks and supplements, biofertilizers, fine chemicals and bio-plastics, extracts for pigments nutraceuticals, pharmaceuticals and medicinals..
Get big. Scale up to thousands of hectares. Large algae farms will enjoy economies of scale. Along the way, demonstration farms to prove out technologies will generate revenue streams from non-fuel products for smaller markets.
Exploit the unexpected - carpe diem. Investment drives innovation, creates serendipity and breakthroughs. Who knows what will unfold that we haven't thought of yet.

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Vasanth Narayan

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Nov 1, 2012, 9:34:49 PM11/1/12
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Dhruva what do you think about a dual process with both starch and algae?

Many bioplastics at the moment are derived from starches, soy & sugar. So plants such as corn, wheat, sugarbeets, tapioca and sugarcane are regularly used. But, people are also developing bioplastics from milk and many other sources. Cellulose has been used before and is being developed at scale. This would open up many more possibilities and have bioplastics that are not derived from food sources but rather from grasses, agricultural waste or agricultural byproducts. 

Efficient things for the planet would either be a relatively high yield plant such as the swtichgrass that grows in poor farmland or algae based bioplastics. Most tantalizingly we could also use diatoms to produce plastics. These microalgae would be very efficient in terms of the planet. Also, since they are capable of creating structures you could design interesting plastics with very advanced capabilities. We could also perhaps engineer a fungus to turn pollutants into plastics at scale. Bioremediation is already possible with certain fungi that consume oil based plastics and other waste and other fungi cab be used to make plastics. Yet other fungi can turn food waste into sugars and since we throw away so much of our food this is an interesting possibility also. Bacteria can be used to make Polyhydroxybutyrate (PHB), a thermoplastic. All of the above options have been developed to a certain extent but not commercialized.         

If you'd ask me to choose right now I'd pick diatoms as the best option for the most advanced capabilities and bacteria for the most efficiency overall. 
Since there is no well established source for cultivation of diatoms,we should look more into agricultural waste.


Dhruva Katrekar

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Nov 2, 2012, 7:17:51 AM11/2/12
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i dont mind that but rather than supplementing a little of starch with algae wouldnt it be better if we stick to one??

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Dhruva Katrekar

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Nov 2, 2012, 7:20:36 AM11/2/12
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@ srihita and pp ...thanks...iv seen the hitachi link before...but actually i was looking for something more specific...like the kimmeltec process flow diagrams with specifications...anyways shalin has found one so its fine

Piyush Uthra

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Nov 6, 2012, 9:41:06 AM11/6/12
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Guys, there are two kinds of startups possible in our case.
One is partnership and the other one is joint stock company.
For partnerships, it is not necessary to get registered with the govt. whereas in joint stock company it is necessary to get registered with the govt. 
Each one has it's own benefits and taking our team into account i think partnership should work out. If at all you all want us our company to be registered with the company (which avoids any future complications) the procedure to be followed is the same as that with joint stock company.
But the process is very time consuming and it also requires some amount of money. I have the procedure with me. So decide whether you all want our company to be registered or not. 

Maunish Barvalia

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Nov 6, 2012, 10:45:13 AM11/6/12
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lets have a partnership.


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Piyush Uthra

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Nov 6, 2012, 10:49:30 AM11/6/12
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But what about the registration with govt.?


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Akshit Salecha

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Nov 6, 2012, 10:52:17 AM11/6/12
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Hey, I think you are confusing two different aspects. As far as I
understand even a chai-wallah has to register to certain authority to
run a legitimate business. These are form of businesses and there are
many more (Hindu Joint Family, Co-operative) but, we need to find
under which section of the Companies Act we can register which will
give us maximum benefits and perks, pertaining environmental
clearance, financial support etc.
Even in partnership we need to register under some governing body. So,
look for that.

On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Maunish Barvalia <maun...@gmail.com> wrote:
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Piyush Uthra

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Nov 6, 2012, 10:58:07 AM11/6/12
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There isn't any govt. Act related to production of bioplastics in India which gives incentives. Besides as far as i know we are just like any other agricultural industry and the procedure followed will almost be the same. Let me search more and tell you the details. Im not sure abt this.


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Piyush Uthra

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Nov 6, 2012, 11:02:03 AM11/6/12
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Check This Out...


The basic procedure for incorporation

For a company to be incorporated, it must be registered with the “Registrar Of Companies” (ROC). After the company is registered, it receives a “Certificate Of Incorporation” after which the company becomes a legal entity.


Registration of the company

The following documents must be filed for the registration of the company:

  1. The Memorandum of Association
  2. The Articles Of Association
  3. An agreement, if any, which the company proposes to enter into with any individual for appointment as its managing director or whole-time director or manager.
  4. A statutory declaration in Form 1 by an advocate, attorney or pleader entitled to appear before the High Court or a company secretary or Chartered Accountant in whole-time practice in India who is engaged in the formation of the company or by a person who is named as a director or manager or secretary of the company that the requirements of the Companies Act have been complied with in respect of the registration of the company and matters precedent and incidental thereto.

In addition to the above, in case of a public company, the following documents must also be filed:

  • Written consent of directors in Form 29 to agree to act as directors
  • The complete address of the registered office of the company in Form 18
  • Details of the directors, managing director and manager of the company in Form 32.


What is the Memorandum Of Association?

The Memorandum of the company is a compulsory document to be filed by any type of a company. The importance of the memorandum is as follows:

  • It specifies the basic constitution of the company. It defines the scope and limitations of the company.
  • Memorandum is considered as a unalterable charter of the company. It is very difficult to alter the memorandum of the company , because it defines certain powers of the company and the company cannot go beyond those powers.
  • Memorandum becomes a public document as soon as the company gets registered. This is because; it enables shareholders, creditors and those who deal with the company to know what kind of enterprise they are dealing with.
  • Memorandum forms the outer framework within which the company operates.


What is the articles of association?

The articles of association contains the rules and regulations for the internal administration of the company. It includes bye laws relating to the management of the company.

All the above stated documents have to be sent to the Registrar along with the registration fee, filing fee, stamp duty, as specified. The Registrar, on receipt of the documents, undertakes a scrutiny and if he finds nothing objectionable, issues, under his seal and signature, the “Certificate of Incorporation”

This certificate needs to be collected from the Registrar's office. After obtaining the Certificate of Incorporation the secretary of the company must send the notice of registered address of the company, if it was not sent earlier, within 30 days of registration.

On obtaining the incorporation certificate, a “Private Company” is eligible to transact business. The private company is now incorporated.

A “Public Company”, however cannot transact business unless it obtains a ‘trading certificate'

Public companies, generally wish to transact business by raising capital from the general public. The process of raising capital from the public is carried out in this stage.

For the purpose of raising capital from the public, the company needs to prepare and issue a document known as ‘prospectus’. Public companies that are confident of raising capital on their own need to prepare a document known as ‘statement in lieu of prospectus’.

In this stage, a draft of the prospectus is finalized. Copies of the prospectus are printed. A copy of the prospectus, duly signed by minimum 2 directors and countersigned by the secretary is filed with the ROC.

Thereafter the Prospectus is issued to the public. Advertisement of issue of the prospectus is usually carried out in newspapers. The public need to pay a nominal application fee and subscribe to the capital of the company within a specified period.

There are other steps that also need to be carried out during this phase:

Application to Stock exchange:
An application must be sent to the regional stock exchange for getting the name of the company listed.

Opening of bank account:
The company must open its bank account for receiving of application money.

Appointment of experts:
The company must appoint it’s brokers, solicitors and auditors of the company.

Expert opinion:
An expert’s opinion regarding the bright prospects of the company is usually written in the prospectus. Experts are usually, accountants, values, solicitors etc.

There are certain guidelines given by SEBI (security exchange board of India) regarding listing of the company on Stock exchange and issue of capital. These need to be followed; otherwise SEBI does not let the company be listed.

In response to the invitation given in the form of prospectus, investors decide about taking shares of the company. They fill in the application form attached to the prospectus and send the application as directed with the application money.

The Board of Directors consider the applications received up to the prescribed date. A resolution of allotment of shares needs to be passed. Letters of allotment are sent and after payment of the allotment money by the allot tees, the company proceeds with the formalities relating to obtaining the ‘Trading certificate’ or the ‘Commencement of business certificate’.

These formalities are listed below:

Declaration of minimum subscription:
A declaration stating that minimum shares have been subscribed needs to be sent to the Registrar.

Declaration of directors application money:
A declaration stating that the directors have paid their application and allotment money as required by the qualification shares.

Statutory declaration:
A statutory declaration by one of the directors or company secretary, declaring that the above requirements have been complied with.

If a company does not get permission to be listed on the Stock exchange, then the company is liable to pay back to it’s investors the allotment money and the application money collected from them. After refunding the money, the company needs to file a declaration that all investors have been refunded their money.

The Registrar will examine these documents and if satisfied, will issue under his seal and signature, the ‘Trading certificate’, which is also known as ‘Certificate of commencement of business’. Now the process of incorporation is complete!!

If the company fails to commence business within a year of it’s incorporation, the courts may order for the winding up of the company.


Akshit Salecha

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Nov 6, 2012, 11:08:57 AM11/6/12
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What do I read in this?


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Srihita Rudraraju

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Nov 7, 2012, 12:06:54 PM11/7/12
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hey, i found out that plastic made out from PLA can be used only for foil, moulds, cups and bottles..it has characteristics similar to PE and PP. Tupperware uses grade #7 plastic for its products..lets look at this side of marketing... i dont think we can make food containers from PLA.. i saw this is wiki and tupperware website.

Srihita Rudraraju

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Nov 7, 2012, 12:08:18 PM11/7/12
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so i think coke and pepsi are our best resorts.. :)

Shalin Doshi

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Nov 7, 2012, 12:28:52 PM11/7/12
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BioPlastic bags aren't ruled out, are they?


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Srihita Rudraraju

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Nov 7, 2012, 12:30:19 PM11/7/12
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they would kind of come under foils wont they?? but even nestle and cadbury could be good options..

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