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FredKitMaker B

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Sep 11, 2026, 9:28:58 AM (7 days ago) Sep 11
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I haven't looked it up but back in the '70s, did not NATO members Greece and Turkey have F-102s fighting each other over Cyprus?  If I recall correctly, there are claims that a Greek F-104 shot down a Turkish -102. 

If two NATO members get into a war with each other, what does that do with Article 5?  Is it a converse of the conundrum that if a tree falls in the forest and no one's there to hear it, does it make any noise?

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Fred Boucher

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FredKitMaker B <fred.b...@kitmaker.net>: Sep 08 08:45AM -0400

I'm surprised they painted the aircraft so dark against the sky. That's a
cool airplane. I read where the pilots actually got a little bit of air to
ground action because the falcon heatseekers
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Don McIntyre <DDo...@aol.com>: Sep 08 11:42AM -0500

They weren't actually that dark. A little "artist's license" by the
artist. As can be seen in the photos provided, for the most part, they
were painted overall ADC Gray. Although later in life
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John Maze

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Sep 11, 2026, 4:40:47 PM (7 days ago) Sep 11
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Would depend on the exact wording. If worded such that mutual defense is only initiated by a non-alliance party, then intra-alliance dispute would be exempted. OTW....Catch 22! 😁


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