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Tim Golden

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May 25, 2011, 6:14:12 PM5/25/11
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Hi Guys,

I know how much we all hate getting spammed by “head hunters” so I’ll keep this brief…

 

I’m looking for the following types of people for an RFP we’re bidding on; along with hourly rates.

 

If you or anyone you know fit these roles please send me their (tim @ timgolden.com) contact info and I’ll follow up with them individually about the specifics.

 

Thanks….

 

Tim

 

Roles looking to fill (per contract); hourly rates:

 

·         Information Architect - Help organize and prioritize content; create wireframes, storyboards and related materials to serve as a “blueprint” for building the website or application

 

·         Graphic Designer, Web Designer - Create “flat” mockups of websites, logos, applications, interactive modules or other web parts. Well versed in CSS, XML, and XHTML.

 

·         Sr. Graphic Designer - Meet with clients to understand branding & aesthetic objectives and create designs to support these objectives. Provide art direction to junior designers. Create “flat” mockups of websites, logos, applications, interactive modules and other web parts. Fluent in XML, CSS, and XHTML. Some ActionScript and JavaScript knowledge preferred. Understand the nuances of designing for different end products (flash, video, HTML, applications, etc.). Be well versed in browser compatibility issues, Section 508 compliance and fallback solutions for Flash media.

 

·         Project Manager - Ensure that the various pieces of a website, multimedia or other project stay on track. Meet with business owners and key stakeholders to identify project goals. Establish attendant timelines and project plans. Identify issues as they arise and adjust timelines and/or resources as needed. Act as liaison between the business and technical parties.

 

·         Web Developers - Develops applications specifically for the Web. Expert in .NET using C#, as well as related technologies including XML, XHTML, SQL, JavaScript, AJAX and DoJo. Familiar with VSS and MS Visual Studio.

 

·         Front-end Web Developer, Coder - Works with User Interface related technologies on the “front end” (non-database) of web development. Expert in technologies such as XML, XHTML, CSS, JavaScript and jQuery. ActionScript knowledge preferred (2.0 and/or 3.0).

 

·         Silverlight Developer - Develop interactive modules and rich media content using Microsoft’s Silverlight

 

·         Video Editor - Edit video using Adobe Premier and/or Final Cut Pro. Be able to integrate audio clips, overlays, titles and credits into existing clips. Understand the nuances of rendering video for consumption on different devices. Conversant in the mechanics of streaming video and how to optimize video accordingly based on metrics. Should have a reel available for demonstrating portfolio.

 

·         Interactive Media Specialist - Build interactive training modules using Adobe Flash and Captivate. Coordinate the development of a script with SME (subject matter expert). Proven record in voiceover work, with a clear and engaging narrative voice. Experience in audio editing software and teaching/training a plus.

 

·         Presentation Graphics Specialist -Develop PowerPoint, Captivate and other multimedia presentations.

 

·         Technical Writer (documentation) - Write a variety of technical documents from standards documents to technical development plans. Should be conversant in a wide range of web technologies.

 

·         Testers - Test websites and applications for functional, performance and usability. Attention to detail and a strong grasp of UX required.

 

·         Web Analytics Contractor - Helps analyze web stats thoroughly to understand user behavior and make recommendations based on data to improve and enhance user experience.

 

·         Web Content Specialist - Strong writing background with a demonstrated track record of writing for the web. Understands how people read online and can streamline complex documents into web friendly prose.

 

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Joel Oliveira

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May 25, 2011, 6:24:59 PM5/25/11
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Hey Tim.

Know what else we all dislike?

Getting job reqs for .NET and C# ... on a Ruby mailing list.

Cmon, man.

- J



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Phil Darnowsky

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May 27, 2011, 3:02:51 PM5/27/11
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Did anyone ever make up that "Wall Of Shame" page we talked about last time?


On 05/25/2011 06:24 PM, Joel Oliveira wrote:
Hey Tim.

Know what else we all dislike?

Getting job reqs for .NET and C# ... on a Ruby mailing list.

Cmon, man.

- J

On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Tim Golden <t...@timgolden.com> wrote:

Hi Guys,

I know how much we all hate getting spammed by �head hunters� so I�ll keep this brief�

�

I�m looking for the following types of people for an RFP we�re bidding on; along with hourly rates.

�

If you or anyone you know fit these roles please send me their (tim @ timgolden.com) contact info and I�ll follow up with them individually about the specifics.

�

Thanks�.

�

Tim

�

Roles looking to fill (per contract); hourly rates:

�

��������� Information Architect - Help organize and prioritize content; create wireframes, storyboards and related materials to serve as a �blueprint� for building the website or application

�

��������� Graphic Designer, Web Designer - Create �flat� mockups of websites, logos, applications, interactive modules or other web parts. Well versed in CSS, XML, and XHTML.

�

��������� Sr. Graphic Designer - Meet with clients to understand branding & aesthetic objectives and create designs to support these objectives. Provide art direction to junior designers. Create �flat� mockups of websites, logos, applications, interactive modules and other web parts. Fluent in XML, CSS, and XHTML. Some ActionScript and JavaScript knowledge preferred. Understand the nuances of designing for different end products (flash, video, HTML, applications, etc.). Be well versed in browser compatibility issues, Section 508 compliance and fallback solutions for Flash media.

�

��������� Project Manager - Ensure that the various pieces of a website, multimedia or other project stay on track. Meet with business owners and key stakeholders to identify project goals. Establish attendant timelines and project plans. Identify issues as they arise and adjust timelines and/or resources as needed. Act as liaison between the business and technical parties.

�

��������� Web Developers - Develops applications specifically for the Web. Expert in .NET using C#, as well as related technologies including XML, XHTML, SQL, JavaScript, AJAX and DoJo. Familiar with VSS and MS Visual Studio.

�

��������� Front-end Web Developer, Coder - Works with User Interface related technologies on the �front end� (non-database) of web development. Expert in technologies such as XML, XHTML, CSS, JavaScript and jQuery. ActionScript knowledge preferred (2.0 and/or 3.0).

�

��������� Silverlight Developer - Develop interactive modules and rich media content using Microsoft�s Silverlight

�

��������� Video Editor - Edit video using Adobe Premier and/or Final Cut Pro. Be able to integrate audio clips, overlays, titles and credits into existing clips. Understand the nuances of rendering video for consumption on different devices. Conversant in the mechanics of streaming video and how to optimize video accordingly based on metrics. Should have a reel available for demonstrating portfolio.

�

��������� Interactive Media Specialist - Build interactive training modules using Adobe Flash and Captivate. Coordinate the development of a script with SME (subject matter expert). Proven record in voiceover work, with a clear and engaging narrative voice. Experience in audio editing software and teaching/training a plus.

�

��������� Presentation Graphics Specialist -Develop PowerPoint, Captivate and other multimedia presentations.

�

��������� Technical Writer (documentation) - Write a variety of technical documents from standards documents to technical development plans. Should be conversant in a wide range of web technologies.

�

��������� Testers - Test websites and applications for functional, performance and usability. Attention to detail and a strong grasp of UX required.

�

��������� Web Analytics Contractor - Helps analyze web stats thoroughly to understand user behavior and make recommendations based on data to improve and enhance user experience.

�

��������� Web Content Specialist - Strong writing background with a demonstrated track record of writing for the web. Understands how people read online and can streamline complex documents into web friendly prose.

�

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Dan Pickett

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May 27, 2011, 3:12:12 PM5/27/11
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Can I propose something here?

Numerous newcomers to the community and entrepreneurs have told me they're afraid to post relevant job postings to this list due to recruiters and others getting chastised for not adhering to job posting guidelines. Can we establish the convention of *kindly* pointing first time posters to guidelines and removing those that don't adhere from the list in exchange for a second offense?

The other option is to create a separate list specifically for Boston Ruby Jobs. 

People are just trying to do their jobs. Just like it's their job to get the listings out to through as many channels as possible, it's our job to educate them about the guidelines.

Have an awesome weekend,
Dan

On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Phil Darnowsky <ph...@darnowsky.com> wrote:
Did anyone ever make up that "Wall Of Shame" page we talked about last time?


On 05/25/2011 06:24 PM, Joel Oliveira wrote:
Hey Tim.

Know what else we all dislike?

Getting job reqs for .NET and C# ... on a Ruby mailing list.

Cmon, man.

- J

On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Tim Golden <t...@timgolden.com> wrote:

Hi Guys,

I know how much we all hate getting spammed by “head hunters” so I’ll keep this brief…

 

I’m looking for the following types of people for an RFP we’re bidding on; along with hourly rates.

 

If you or anyone you know fit these roles please send me their (tim @ timgolden.com) contact info and I’ll follow up with them individually about the specifics.

 

Thanks….

 

Tim

 

Roles looking to fill (per contract); hourly rates:

 

·         Information Architect - Help organize and prioritize content; create wireframes, storyboards and related materials to serve as a “blueprint” for building the website or application

 

·         Graphic Designer, Web Designer - Create “flat” mockups of websites, logos, applications, interactive modules or other web parts. Well versed in CSS, XML, and XHTML.

 

·         Sr. Graphic Designer - Meet with clients to understand branding & aesthetic objectives and create designs to support these objectives. Provide art direction to junior designers. Create “flat” mockups of websites, logos, applications, interactive modules and other web parts. Fluent in XML, CSS, and XHTML. Some ActionScript and JavaScript knowledge preferred. Understand the nuances of designing for different end products (flash, video, HTML, applications, etc.). Be well versed in browser compatibility issues, Section 508 compliance and fallback solutions for Flash media.

 

·         Project Manager - Ensure that the various pieces of a website, multimedia or other project stay on track. Meet with business owners and key stakeholders to identify project goals. Establish attendant timelines and project plans. Identify issues as they arise and adjust timelines and/or resources as needed. Act as liaison between the business and technical parties.

 

·         Web Developers - Develops applications specifically for the Web. Expert in .NET using C#, as well as related technologies including XML, XHTML, SQL, JavaScript, AJAX and DoJo. Familiar with VSS and MS Visual Studio.

 

·         Front-end Web Developer, Coder - Works with User Interface related technologies on the “front end” (non-database) of web development. Expert in technologies such as XML, XHTML, CSS, JavaScript and jQuery. ActionScript knowledge preferred (2.0 and/or 3.0).

 

·         Silverlight Developer - Develop interactive modules and rich media content using Microsoft’s Silverlight

 

·         Video Editor - Edit video using Adobe Premier and/or Final Cut Pro. Be able to integrate audio clips, overlays, titles and credits into existing clips. Understand the nuances of rendering video for consumption on different devices. Conversant in the mechanics of streaming video and how to optimize video accordingly based on metrics. Should have a reel available for demonstrating portfolio.

 

·         Interactive Media Specialist - Build interactive training modules using Adobe Flash and Captivate. Coordinate the development of a script with SME (subject matter expert). Proven record in voiceover work, with a clear and engaging narrative voice. Experience in audio editing software and teaching/training a plus.

 

·         Presentation Graphics Specialist -Develop PowerPoint, Captivate and other multimedia presentations.

 

·         Technical Writer (documentation) - Write a variety of technical documents from standards documents to technical development plans. Should be conversant in a wide range of web technologies.

 

·         Testers - Test websites and applications for functional, performance and usability. Attention to detail and a strong grasp of UX required.

 

·         Web Analytics Contractor - Helps analyze web stats thoroughly to understand user behavior and make recommendations based on data to improve and enhance user experience.

 

·         Web Content Specialist - Strong writing background with a demonstrated track record of writing for the web. Understands how people read online and can streamline complex documents into web friendly prose.

 

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Brian Cardarella

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May 27, 2011, 3:15:57 PM5/27/11
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While I agree we should encourage people to post job postings in the proper way ([JOB] in the subject line) this post was completely off topic. There isn't a single mention of anything that resembles a Ruby related job at all. That should not be encouraged.

- Brian

Chris Rhoden

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May 27, 2011, 3:19:15 PM5/27/11
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Dan, I would love to agree with you, but...

When you're plainly already familiar with the fact that this is spamming ("I know how much we all hate getting spammed by 'head hunters' so I’ll keep this brief…")

When you are sending to an email with ruby in the name and your post does not even mention the word Ruby as a "good to have."

You've lost my sympathy.

On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Dan Pickett <dpic...@enlightsolutions.com> wrote:



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Phil Darnowsky

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May 27, 2011, 3:20:03 PM5/27/11
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Is there an automated welcome message to the group? If so, could we add a prominent pointer to the job posting guidelines?

--Phil


On 05/27/2011 03:15 PM, Brian Cardarella wrote:
While I agree we should encourage people to post job postings in the proper way ([JOB] in the subject line) this post was completely off topic. There isn't a single mention of anything that resembles a Ruby related job at all. That should not be encouraged.

- Brian

On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Dan Pickett <dpic...@enlightsolutions.com> wrote:
Can I propose something here?

Numerous newcomers to the community and entrepreneurs have told me they're afraid to post relevant job postings to this list due to recruiters and others getting chastised for not adhering to job posting guidelines. Can we establish the convention of *kindly* pointing first time posters to guidelines and removing those that don't adhere from the list in exchange for a second offense?

The other option is to create a separate list specifically for Boston Ruby Jobs.�

People are just trying to do their jobs. Just like it's their job to get the listings out to through as many channels as possible, it's our job to educate them about the guidelines.

Have an awesome weekend,
Dan


On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Phil Darnowsky <ph...@darnowsky.com> wrote:
Did anyone ever make up that "Wall Of Shame" page we talked about last time?


On 05/25/2011 06:24 PM, Joel Oliveira wrote:
Hey Tim.

Know what else we all dislike?

Getting job reqs for .NET and C# ... on a Ruby mailing list.

Cmon, man.

- J

On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Tim Golden <t...@timgolden.com> wrote:

Hi Guys,

I know how much we all hate getting spammed by �head hunters� so I�ll keep this brief�

�

I�m looking for the following types of people for an RFP we�re bidding on; along with hourly rates.

�

If you or anyone you know fit these roles please send me their (tim @ timgolden.com) contact info and I�ll follow up with them individually about the specifics.

�

Thanks�.

�

Tim

�

Roles looking to fill (per contract); hourly rates:

�

��������� Information Architect - Help organize and prioritize content; create wireframes, storyboards and related materials to serve as a �blueprint� for building the website or application

�

��������� Graphic Designer, Web Designer - Create �flat� mockups of websites, logos, applications, interactive modules or other web parts. Well versed in CSS, XML, and XHTML.

�

��������� Sr. Graphic Designer - Meet with clients to understand branding & aesthetic objectives and create designs to support these objectives. Provide art direction to junior designers. Create �flat� mockups of websites, logos, applications, interactive modules and other web parts. Fluent in XML, CSS, and XHTML. Some ActionScript and JavaScript knowledge preferred. Understand the nuances of designing for different end products (flash, video, HTML, applications, etc.). Be well versed in browser compatibility issues, Section 508 compliance and fallback solutions for Flash media.

�

��������� Project Manager - Ensure that the various pieces of a website, multimedia or other project stay on track. Meet with business owners and key stakeholders to identify project goals. Establish attendant timelines and project plans. Identify issues as they arise and adjust timelines and/or resources as needed. Act as liaison between the business and technical parties.

�

��������� Web Developers - Develops applications specifically for the Web. Expert in .NET using C#, as well as related technologies including XML, XHTML, SQL, JavaScript, AJAX and DoJo. Familiar with VSS and MS Visual Studio.

�

��������� Front-end Web Developer, Coder - Works with User Interface related technologies on the �front end� (non-database) of web development. Expert in technologies such as XML, XHTML, CSS, JavaScript and jQuery. ActionScript knowledge preferred (2.0 and/or 3.0).

�

��������� Silverlight Developer - Develop interactive modules and rich media content using Microsoft�s Silverlight

�

��������� Video Editor - Edit video using Adobe Premier and/or Final Cut Pro. Be able to integrate audio clips, overlays, titles and credits into existing clips. Understand the nuances of rendering video for consumption on different devices. Conversant in the mechanics of streaming video and how to optimize video accordingly based on metrics. Should have a reel available for demonstrating portfolio.

�

��������� Interactive Media Specialist - Build interactive training modules using Adobe Flash and Captivate. Coordinate the development of a script with SME (subject matter expert). Proven record in voiceover work, with a clear and engaging narrative voice. Experience in audio editing software and teaching/training a plus.

�

��������� Presentation Graphics Specialist -Develop PowerPoint, Captivate and other multimedia presentations.

�

��������� Technical Writer (documentation) - Write a variety of technical documents from standards documents to technical development plans. Should be conversant in a wide range of web technologies.

�

��������� Testers - Test websites and applications for functional, performance and usability. Attention to detail and a strong grasp of UX required.

�

��������� Web Analytics Contractor - Helps analyze web stats thoroughly to understand user behavior and make recommendations based on data to improve and enhance user experience.

�

��������� Web Content Specialist - Strong writing background with a demonstrated track record of writing for the web. Understands how people read online and can streamline complex documents into web friendly prose.

�

-----

Brian Cardarella

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May 27, 2011, 3:25:46 PM5/27/11
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Unfortunately there isn't an automated welcome message other than if I personally engage any new comers. Which is do-able. It would be nice if Google Groups allowed us to have a "sticky" top post with guidelines, notices, etc...

What would people feel about a boston-rubygroup-jobs mailing list?

- Brian

On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 3:20 PM, Phil Darnowsky <ph...@darnowsky.com> wrote:
Is there an automated welcome message to the group? If so, could we add a prominent pointer to the job posting guidelines?

--Phil


On 05/27/2011 03:15 PM, Brian Cardarella wrote:
While I agree we should encourage people to post job postings in the proper way ([JOB] in the subject line) this post was completely off topic. There isn't a single mention of anything that resembles a Ruby related job at all. That should not be encouraged.

- Brian

On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Dan Pickett <dpic...@enlightsolutions.com> wrote:
Can I propose something here?

Numerous newcomers to the community and entrepreneurs have told me they're afraid to post relevant job postings to this list due to recruiters and others getting chastised for not adhering to job posting guidelines. Can we establish the convention of *kindly* pointing first time posters to guidelines and removing those that don't adhere from the list in exchange for a second offense?

The other option is to create a separate list specifically for Boston Ruby Jobs. 

People are just trying to do their jobs. Just like it's their job to get the listings out to through as many channels as possible, it's our job to educate them about the guidelines.

Have an awesome weekend,
Dan


On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Phil Darnowsky <ph...@darnowsky.com> wrote:
Did anyone ever make up that "Wall Of Shame" page we talked about last time?


On 05/25/2011 06:24 PM, Joel Oliveira wrote:
Hey Tim.

Know what else we all dislike?

Getting job reqs for .NET and C# ... on a Ruby mailing list.

Cmon, man.

- J

On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Tim Golden <t...@timgolden.com> wrote:

Hi Guys,

I know how much we all hate getting spammed by “head hunters” so I’ll keep this brief…

 

I’m looking for the following types of people for an RFP we’re bidding on; along with hourly rates.

 

If you or anyone you know fit these roles please send me their (tim @ timgolden.com) contact info and I’ll follow up with them individually about the specifics.

 

Thanks….

 

Tim

 

Roles looking to fill (per contract); hourly rates:

 

·         Information Architect - Help organize and prioritize content; create wireframes, storyboards and related materials to serve as a “blueprint” for building the website or application

 

·         Graphic Designer, Web Designer - Create “flat” mockups of websites, logos, applications, interactive modules or other web parts. Well versed in CSS, XML, and XHTML.

 

·         Sr. Graphic Designer - Meet with clients to understand branding & aesthetic objectives and create designs to support these objectives. Provide art direction to junior designers. Create “flat” mockups of websites, logos, applications, interactive modules and other web parts. Fluent in XML, CSS, and XHTML. Some ActionScript and JavaScript knowledge preferred. Understand the nuances of designing for different end products (flash, video, HTML, applications, etc.). Be well versed in browser compatibility issues, Section 508 compliance and fallback solutions for Flash media.

 

·         Project Manager - Ensure that the various pieces of a website, multimedia or other project stay on track. Meet with business owners and key stakeholders to identify project goals. Establish attendant timelines and project plans. Identify issues as they arise and adjust timelines and/or resources as needed. Act as liaison between the business and technical parties.

 

·         Web Developers - Develops applications specifically for the Web. Expert in .NET using C#, as well as related technologies including XML, XHTML, SQL, JavaScript, AJAX and DoJo. Familiar with VSS and MS Visual Studio.

 

·         Front-end Web Developer, Coder - Works with User Interface related technologies on the “front end” (non-database) of web development. Expert in technologies such as XML, XHTML, CSS, JavaScript and jQuery. ActionScript knowledge preferred (2.0 and/or 3.0).

 

·         Silverlight Developer - Develop interactive modules and rich media content using Microsoft’s Silverlight

 

·         Video Editor - Edit video using Adobe Premier and/or Final Cut Pro. Be able to integrate audio clips, overlays, titles and credits into existing clips. Understand the nuances of rendering video for consumption on different devices. Conversant in the mechanics of streaming video and how to optimize video accordingly based on metrics. Should have a reel available for demonstrating portfolio.

 

·         Interactive Media Specialist - Build interactive training modules using Adobe Flash and Captivate. Coordinate the development of a script with SME (subject matter expert). Proven record in voiceover work, with a clear and engaging narrative voice. Experience in audio editing software and teaching/training a plus.

 

·         Presentation Graphics Specialist -Develop PowerPoint, Captivate and other multimedia presentations.

 

·         Technical Writer (documentation) - Write a variety of technical documents from standards documents to technical development plans. Should be conversant in a wide range of web technologies.

 

·         Testers - Test websites and applications for functional, performance and usability. Attention to detail and a strong grasp of UX required.

 

·         Web Analytics Contractor - Helps analyze web stats thoroughly to understand user behavior and make recommendations based on data to improve and enhance user experience.

 

·         Web Content Specialist - Strong writing background with a demonstrated track record of writing for the web. Understands how people read online and can streamline complex documents into web friendly prose.

 

-----

Joel Oliveira

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May 27, 2011, 3:27:05 PM5/27/11
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I'm all for it.

- J

Phil Darnowsky

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May 27, 2011, 3:28:13 PM5/27/11
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+1


On 05/27/2011 03:27 PM, Joel Oliveira wrote:
I'm all for it.

- J

On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Brian Cardarella <bcard...@gmail.com> wrote:
Unfortunately�there isn't an automated welcome message other than if I personally engage any new comers. Which is do-able. It would be nice if Google Groups allowed us to have a "sticky" top post with guidelines, notices, etc...

What would people feel about a boston-rubygroup-jobs mailing list?

- Brian
On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 3:20 PM, Phil Darnowsky <ph...@darnowsky.com> wrote:
Is there an automated welcome message to the group? If so, could we add a prominent pointer to the job posting guidelines?

--Phil


On 05/27/2011 03:15 PM, Brian Cardarella wrote:
While I agree we should encourage people to post job postings in the proper way ([JOB] in the subject line) this post was completely off topic. There isn't a single mention of anything that resembles a Ruby related job at all. That should not be encouraged.

- Brian

On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Dan Pickett <dpic...@enlightsolutions.com> wrote:
Can I propose something here?

Numerous newcomers to the community and entrepreneurs have told me they're afraid to post relevant job postings to this list due to recruiters and others getting chastised for not adhering to job posting guidelines. Can we establish the convention of *kindly* pointing first time posters to guidelines and removing those that don't adhere from the list in exchange for a second offense?

The other option is to create a separate list specifically for Boston Ruby Jobs.�

People are just trying to do their jobs. Just like it's their job to get the listings out to through as many channels as possible, it's our job to educate them about the guidelines.

Have an awesome weekend,
Dan


On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Phil Darnowsky <ph...@darnowsky.com> wrote:
Did anyone ever make up that "Wall Of Shame" page we talked about last time?


On 05/25/2011 06:24 PM, Joel Oliveira wrote:
Hey Tim.

Know what else we all dislike?

Getting job reqs for .NET and C# ... on a Ruby mailing list.

Cmon, man.

- J

On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Tim Golden <t...@timgolden.com> wrote:

Hi Guys,

I know how much we all hate getting spammed by �head hunters� so I�ll keep this brief�

�

I�m looking for the following types of people for an RFP we�re bidding on; along with hourly rates.

�

If you or anyone you know fit these roles please send me their (tim @ timgolden.com) contact info and I�ll follow up with them individually about the specifics.

�

Thanks�.

�

Tim

�

Roles looking to fill (per contract); hourly rates:

�

��������� Information Architect - Help organize and prioritize content; create wireframes, storyboards and related materials to serve as a �blueprint� for building the website or application

�

��������� Graphic Designer, Web Designer - Create �flat� mockups of websites, logos, applications, interactive modules or other web parts. Well versed in CSS, XML, and XHTML.

�

��������� Sr. Graphic Designer - Meet with clients to understand branding & aesthetic objectives and create designs to support these objectives. Provide art direction to junior designers. Create �flat� mockups of websites, logos, applications, interactive modules and other web parts. Fluent in XML, CSS, and XHTML. Some ActionScript and JavaScript knowledge preferred. Understand the nuances of designing for different end products (flash, video, HTML, applications, etc.). Be well versed in browser compatibility issues, Section 508 compliance and fallback solutions for Flash media.

�

��������� Project Manager - Ensure that the various pieces of a website, multimedia or other project stay on track. Meet with business owners and key stakeholders to identify project goals. Establish attendant timelines and project plans. Identify issues as they arise and adjust timelines and/or resources as needed. Act as liaison between the business and technical parties.

�

��������� Web Developers - Develops applications specifically for the Web. Expert in .NET using C#, as well as related technologies including XML, XHTML, SQL, JavaScript, AJAX and DoJo. Familiar with VSS and MS Visual Studio.

�

��������� Front-end Web Developer, Coder - Works with User Interface related technologies on the �front end� (non-database) of web development. Expert in technologies such as XML, XHTML, CSS, JavaScript and jQuery. ActionScript knowledge preferred (2.0 and/or 3.0).

�

��������� Silverlight Developer - Develop interactive modules and rich media content using Microsoft�s Silverlight

�

��������� Video Editor - Edit video using Adobe Premier and/or Final Cut Pro. Be able to integrate audio clips, overlays, titles and credits into existing clips. Understand the nuances of rendering video for consumption on different devices. Conversant in the mechanics of streaming video and how to optimize video accordingly based on metrics. Should have a reel available for demonstrating portfolio.

�

��������� Interactive Media Specialist - Build interactive training modules using Adobe Flash and Captivate. Coordinate the development of a script with SME (subject matter expert). Proven record in voiceover work, with a clear and engaging narrative voice. Experience in audio editing software and teaching/training a plus.

�

��������� Presentation Graphics Specialist -Develop PowerPoint, Captivate and other multimedia presentations.

�

��������� Technical Writer (documentation) - Write a variety of technical documents from standards documents to technical development plans. Should be conversant in a wide range of web technologies.

�

��������� Testers - Test websites and applications for functional, performance and usability. Attention to detail and a strong grasp of UX required.

�

��������� Web Analytics Contractor - Helps analyze web stats thoroughly to understand user behavior and make recommendations based on data to improve and enhance user experience.

�

��������� Web Content Specialist - Strong writing background with a demonstrated track record of writing for the web. Understands how people read online and can streamline complex documents into web friendly prose.

�

-----

Matt Griffin

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Not sure what problem a separate list is solving.

Spammers are still going to spam and well-behaved job posts are of interest to the group (and easily filtered)

-M

On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Brian Cardarella <bcard...@gmail.com> wrote:

Brian Cardarella

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So here are the pros/cons of a jobs mailing list that I see:

Pros:
* isolates the job listings in one place, will hopefully reduce noise in here
* job posters can feel free to post anything they want on that list

Cons:
* less people will be watching it
* we still have to educated job posters to use the other mailing list


- Brian

On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Phil Darnowsky <ph...@darnowsky.com> wrote:
+1


On 05/27/2011 03:27 PM, Joel Oliveira wrote:
I'm all for it.

- J

On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Brian Cardarella <bcard...@gmail.com> wrote:
Unfortunately there isn't an automated welcome message other than if I personally engage any new comers. Which is do-able. It would be nice if Google Groups allowed us to have a "sticky" top post with guidelines, notices, etc...

What would people feel about a boston-rubygroup-jobs mailing list?

- Brian
On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 3:20 PM, Phil Darnowsky <ph...@darnowsky.com> wrote:
Is there an automated welcome message to the group? If so, could we add a prominent pointer to the job posting guidelines?

--Phil


On 05/27/2011 03:15 PM, Brian Cardarella wrote:
While I agree we should encourage people to post job postings in the proper way ([JOB] in the subject line) this post was completely off topic. There isn't a single mention of anything that resembles a Ruby related job at all. That should not be encouraged.

- Brian

On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Dan Pickett <dpic...@enlightsolutions.com> wrote:
Can I propose something here?

Numerous newcomers to the community and entrepreneurs have told me they're afraid to post relevant job postings to this list due to recruiters and others getting chastised for not adhering to job posting guidelines. Can we establish the convention of *kindly* pointing first time posters to guidelines and removing those that don't adhere from the list in exchange for a second offense?

The other option is to create a separate list specifically for Boston Ruby Jobs. 

People are just trying to do their jobs. Just like it's their job to get the listings out to through as many channels as possible, it's our job to educate them about the guidelines.

Have an awesome weekend,
Dan


On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Phil Darnowsky <ph...@darnowsky.com> wrote:
Did anyone ever make up that "Wall Of Shame" page we talked about last time?


On 05/25/2011 06:24 PM, Joel Oliveira wrote:
Hey Tim.

Know what else we all dislike?

Getting job reqs for .NET and C# ... on a Ruby mailing list.

Cmon, man.

- J

On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Tim Golden <t...@timgolden.com> wrote:

Hi Guys,

I know how much we all hate getting spammed by “head hunters” so I’ll keep this brief…

 

I’m looking for the following types of people for an RFP we’re bidding on; along with hourly rates.

 

If you or anyone you know fit these roles please send me their (tim @ timgolden.com) contact info and I’ll follow up with them individually about the specifics.

 

Thanks….

 

Tim

 

Roles looking to fill (per contract); hourly rates:

 

·         Information Architect - Help organize and prioritize content; create wireframes, storyboards and related materials to serve as a “blueprint” for building the website or application

 

·         Graphic Designer, Web Designer - Create “flat” mockups of websites, logos, applications, interactive modules or other web parts. Well versed in CSS, XML, and XHTML.

 

·         Sr. Graphic Designer - Meet with clients to understand branding & aesthetic objectives and create designs to support these objectives. Provide art direction to junior designers. Create “flat” mockups of websites, logos, applications, interactive modules and other web parts. Fluent in XML, CSS, and XHTML. Some ActionScript and JavaScript knowledge preferred. Understand the nuances of designing for different end products (flash, video, HTML, applications, etc.). Be well versed in browser compatibility issues, Section 508 compliance and fallback solutions for Flash media.

 

·         Project Manager - Ensure that the various pieces of a website, multimedia or other project stay on track. Meet with business owners and key stakeholders to identify project goals. Establish attendant timelines and project plans. Identify issues as they arise and adjust timelines and/or resources as needed. Act as liaison between the business and technical parties.

 

·         Web Developers - Develops applications specifically for the Web. Expert in .NET using C#, as well as related technologies including XML, XHTML, SQL, JavaScript, AJAX and DoJo. Familiar with VSS and MS Visual Studio.

 

·         Front-end Web Developer, Coder - Works with User Interface related technologies on the “front end” (non-database) of web development. Expert in technologies such as XML, XHTML, CSS, JavaScript and jQuery. ActionScript knowledge preferred (2.0 and/or 3.0).

 

·         Silverlight Developer - Develop interactive modules and rich media content using Microsoft’s Silverlight

 

·         Video Editor - Edit video using Adobe Premier and/or Final Cut Pro. Be able to integrate audio clips, overlays, titles and credits into existing clips. Understand the nuances of rendering video for consumption on different devices. Conversant in the mechanics of streaming video and how to optimize video accordingly based on metrics. Should have a reel available for demonstrating portfolio.

 

·         Interactive Media Specialist - Build interactive training modules using Adobe Flash and Captivate. Coordinate the development of a script with SME (subject matter expert). Proven record in voiceover work, with a clear and engaging narrative voice. Experience in audio editing software and teaching/training a plus.

 

·         Presentation Graphics Specialist -Develop PowerPoint, Captivate and other multimedia presentations.

 

·         Technical Writer (documentation) - Write a variety of technical documents from standards documents to technical development plans. Should be conversant in a wide range of web technologies.

 

·         Testers - Test websites and applications for functional, performance and usability. Attention to detail and a strong grasp of UX required.

 

·         Web Analytics Contractor - Helps analyze web stats thoroughly to understand user behavior and make recommendations based on data to improve and enhance user experience.

 

·         Web Content Specialist - Strong writing background with a demonstrated track record of writing for the web. Understands how people read online and can streamline complex documents into web friendly prose.

 

-----

Michael Durrant

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my 2 cents (1 penny) is that I'm fairly agnostic to either approach but am thinking that another option might be a page listing process similar to what we had before - all the info & history in one single place.
With the mailing list approach, can the join process show recently posted emails? That's seems important.
I also found it tedious to scan though and compare recent postings when they are in a large number of separate emails rather than the 'one page' approach used previously.
As users ('seekers') will often want to see a list of what's been posted in the last, say, 3 months at the time that they deem they are 'available' (or move to the area say) not sure if the mailing list really addresses those use cases. Plus some users will just want to scan the list every now and then without actually being on an active 'available' mailing list.  Also seeing this history will also be of value to new 'posters' as they can see what sort of jobs are already out there that they will be competing against for job seekers.
I guess whether you can get to see past history for a mailing list is a key factor here.
So I wondered if a mailing list is actually the right tool for the job. big picure 'n 'all.
Curious to know what peoples thoughts are on the right tool here. Maybe this is just my preference.

I also frequently refer folks to http://www.enlightsolutions.com/articles/tag/hiring/ thanks again to Dan Pickett !

Michael.

Brian Cardarella

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We're not going with the other mailing list idea, it wasn't a good one. I sent another message to the mailing list asking that people simply direct offending posters to the guidelines on the wiki.

I've also just added Dan's post to the wiki page.

This doesn't solve the problem but maybe it makes things smoother in the future.

- Brian

Chris Maxwell

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May 27, 2011, 5:42:10 PM5/27/11
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I think nothing should change. I really like the way we collectively
handle things right now. Remember that ridiculous Florida job post
last year? I still laugh at the email chain from that one. I think we
as a group are pretty good about occasionally shellacking, in good
taste, unless I missed something that is driving fear into the hearts
of job posters?

Dear Job Poster,

I really like your legitimate/relevant job posts. Keep them coming,
it's good to see what's out there, what people are doing, and what
skills you are looking for, and I may need you someday - seriously -
so no matter what is said after your post, it's all in good fun, and
whoever said those awful mean things, well forget them. 99.9% of us <3
you!

have a great Memorial Day weekend,
Chris

Ninja

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May 27, 2011, 5:49:12 PM5/27/11
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Big deal. Nobody really cares about this job posting, until some of the loud mouths made really big noise about it.
I hate C#, .Net but I hate all the Nazi and the children who want to play the authority games even more.

Craig P Jolicoeur

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What about job postings for non-ruby work where a member is looking for help from other members on a networking level?

For instance, my company currently needs helps with iOS work and are looking for a few consultants and I'd love to get recommendations from members/friends here at Boston.rb but have never posted since it's a non-ruby job.

- Craig

Joel Oliveira

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"the Nazi and the children"

Harsh, bro.

Time to hit the bottle :(

Michael Breen

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nice to see Goodwin's law still holds up.

Phil Darnowsky

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Good point. It seems to me that (a) that would be a legitimate use of
the list, and (b) the best way to do that would be to tag the subject
line with something like "[NONRUBY-JOB]". What do you guys think?

--Phil

>>>>> we had before - all the info& history in one single place.

>>>>>>>>>>>> I know how much we all hate getting spammed by �head hunters� so
>>>>>>>>>>>> I�ll keep this brief�
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> I�m looking for the following types of people for an RFP we�re


>>>>>>>>>>>> bidding on; along with hourly rates.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If you or anyone you know fit these roles please send me their (tim

>>>>>>>>>>>> @ timgolden.com) contact info and I�ll follow up with them individually
>>>>>>>>>>>> about the specifics.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks�.


>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Roles looking to fill (per contract); hourly rates:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> � Information Architect - Help organize and prioritize


>>>>>>>>>>>> content; create wireframes, storyboards and related materials to serve as a

>>>>>>>>>>>> �blueprint� for building the website or application
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> � Graphic Designer, Web Designer - Create �flat� mockups of


>>>>>>>>>>>> websites, logos, applications, interactive modules or other web parts. Well
>>>>>>>>>>>> versed in CSS, XML, and XHTML.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> � Sr. Graphic Designer - Meet with clients to understand
>>>>>>>>>>>> branding& aesthetic objectives and create designs to support these
>>>>>>>>>>>> objectives. Provide art direction to junior designers. Create �flat� mockups


>>>>>>>>>>>> of websites, logos, applications, interactive modules and other web parts.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Fluent in XML, CSS, and XHTML. Some ActionScript and JavaScript knowledge
>>>>>>>>>>>> preferred. Understand the nuances of designing for different end products
>>>>>>>>>>>> (flash, video, HTML, applications, etc.). Be well versed in browser
>>>>>>>>>>>> compatibility issues, Section 508 compliance and fallback solutions for
>>>>>>>>>>>> Flash media.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> � Project Manager - Ensure that the various pieces of a


>>>>>>>>>>>> website, multimedia or other project stay on track. Meet with business
>>>>>>>>>>>> owners and key stakeholders to identify project goals. Establish attendant
>>>>>>>>>>>> timelines and project plans. Identify issues as they arise and adjust
>>>>>>>>>>>> timelines and/or resources as needed. Act as liaison between the business
>>>>>>>>>>>> and technical parties.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> � Web Developers - Develops applications specifically for


>>>>>>>>>>>> the Web. Expert in .NET using C#, as well as related technologies including
>>>>>>>>>>>> XML, XHTML, SQL, JavaScript, AJAX and DoJo. Familiar with VSS and MS Visual
>>>>>>>>>>>> Studio.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> � Front-end Web Developer, Coder - Works with User
>>>>>>>>>>>> Interface related technologies on the �front end� (non-database) of web


>>>>>>>>>>>> development. Expert in technologies such as XML, XHTML, CSS, JavaScript and
>>>>>>>>>>>> jQuery. ActionScript knowledge preferred (2.0 and/or 3.0).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> � Silverlight Developer - Develop interactive modules and
>>>>>>>>>>>> rich media content using Microsoft�s Silverlight
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> � Video Editor - Edit video using Adobe Premier and/or


>>>>>>>>>>>> Final Cut Pro. Be able to integrate audio clips, overlays, titles and
>>>>>>>>>>>> credits into existing clips. Understand the nuances of rendering video for
>>>>>>>>>>>> consumption on different devices. Conversant in the mechanics of streaming
>>>>>>>>>>>> video and how to optimize video accordingly based on metrics. Should have a
>>>>>>>>>>>> reel available for demonstrating portfolio.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> � Interactive Media Specialist - Build interactive training


>>>>>>>>>>>> modules using Adobe Flash and Captivate. Coordinate the development of a
>>>>>>>>>>>> script with SME (subject matter expert). Proven record in voiceover work,
>>>>>>>>>>>> with a clear and engaging narrative voice. Experience in audio editing
>>>>>>>>>>>> software and teaching/training a plus.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> � Presentation Graphics Specialist -Develop PowerPoint,


>>>>>>>>>>>> Captivate and other multimedia presentations.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> � Technical Writer (documentation) - Write a variety of


>>>>>>>>>>>> technical documents from standards documents to technical development plans.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Should be conversant in a wide range of web technologies.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> � Testers - Test websites and applications for functional,


>>>>>>>>>>>> performance and usability. Attention to detail and a strong grasp of UX
>>>>>>>>>>>> required.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> � Web Analytics Contractor - Helps analyze web stats


>>>>>>>>>>>> thoroughly to understand user behavior and make recommendations based on
>>>>>>>>>>>> data to improve and enhance user experience.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> � Web Content Specialist - Strong writing background with a

Joel Oliveira

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May 27, 2011, 6:01:40 PM5/27/11
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I don't see why anything like this would be out of bounds.  Sure, it's slightly off-topic but the overlap with this community is (probably) rather large.  Nothing wrong with a short and sweet and polite email along the lines of:

"Hi everyone,  Sorry to be a little off-topic but my company is looking for some iOS consultants.  If anyone is interested or wants to get in touch drop me a line at ...." etc etc.  I see absolutely nothing wrong with that and I don't think anyone else would either.

It's not like that's a drive-by copy-and-paste-a-resume job then disappear into the ether type thing.

- J

Travis Briggs

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Good idea, Phil, but I would suggest [JOB] [OT] or [JOB][-RUBY] or something. You want to keep the "[JOB]" string as an exact match to not break existing filters.

I could see a [-RUBY] or [OT] flag having general utility beyond job posts.

The downside (same downside as having another list) is that anyone who is rude enough to ignore the guidelines in general will also "accidentally" forget the OT flag as well. Basically, if you outlaw spamming, only outlaws will eat spam.....or something....

-Travis

Hi Guys,

I know how much we all hate getting spammed by “head hunters” so
I’ll keep this brief…



I’m looking for the following types of people for an RFP we’re

bidding on; along with hourly rates.



If you or anyone you know fit these roles please send me their (tim
@ timgolden.com) contact info and I’ll follow up with them individually
about the specifics.



Thanks….




Tim



Roles looking to fill (per contract); hourly rates:



·         Information Architect - Help organize and prioritize

content; create wireframes, storyboards and related materials to serve as a
“blueprint” for building the website or application



·         Graphic Designer, Web Designer - Create “flat” mockups of

websites, logos, applications, interactive modules or other web parts. Well
versed in CSS, XML, and XHTML.



·         Sr. Graphic Designer - Meet with clients to understand

branding&  aesthetic objectives and create designs to support these
objectives. Provide art direction to junior designers. Create “flat” mockups

of websites, logos, applications, interactive modules and other web parts.
Fluent in XML, CSS, and XHTML. Some ActionScript and JavaScript knowledge
preferred. Understand the nuances of designing for different end products
(flash, video, HTML, applications, etc.). Be well versed in browser
compatibility issues, Section 508 compliance and fallback solutions for
Flash media.



·         Project Manager - Ensure that the various pieces of a

website, multimedia or other project stay on track. Meet with business
owners and key stakeholders to identify project goals. Establish attendant
timelines and project plans. Identify issues as they arise and adjust
timelines and/or resources as needed. Act as liaison between the business
and technical parties.



·         Web Developers - Develops applications specifically for

the Web. Expert in .NET using C#, as well as related technologies including
XML, XHTML, SQL, JavaScript, AJAX and DoJo. Familiar with VSS and MS Visual
Studio.



·         Front-end Web Developer, Coder - Works with User
Interface related technologies on the “front end” (non-database) of web

development. Expert in technologies such as XML, XHTML, CSS, JavaScript and
jQuery. ActionScript knowledge preferred (2.0 and/or 3.0).



·         Silverlight Developer - Develop interactive modules and
rich media content using Microsoft’s Silverlight



·         Video Editor - Edit video using Adobe Premier and/or

Final Cut Pro. Be able to integrate audio clips, overlays, titles and
credits into existing clips. Understand the nuances of rendering video for
consumption on different devices. Conversant in the mechanics of streaming
video and how to optimize video accordingly based on metrics. Should have a
reel available for demonstrating portfolio.



·         Interactive Media Specialist - Build interactive training

modules using Adobe Flash and Captivate. Coordinate the development of a
script with SME (subject matter expert). Proven record in voiceover work,
with a clear and engaging narrative voice. Experience in audio editing
software and teaching/training a plus.



·         Presentation Graphics Specialist -Develop PowerPoint,

Captivate and other multimedia presentations.



·         Technical Writer (documentation) - Write a variety of

technical documents from standards documents to technical development plans.
Should be conversant in a wide range of web technologies.



·         Testers - Test websites and applications for functional,

performance and usability. Attention to detail and a strong grasp of UX
required.



·         Web Analytics Contractor - Helps analyze web stats

thoroughly to understand user behavior and make recommendations based on
data to improve and enhance user experience.



·         Web Content Specialist - Strong writing background with a

Phil Darnowsky

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Good point about the filters. And as for those who won't bother to use the appropriate tags, well, we still have the option of one or more polite warnings followed by a ban.


On 05/27/2011 06:07 PM, Travis Briggs wrote:
Good idea, Phil, but I would suggest [JOB] [OT] or [JOB][-RUBY] or something. You want to keep the "[JOB]" string as an exact match to not break existing filters.

I could see a [-RUBY] or [OT] flag having general utility beyond job posts.

The downside (same downside as having another list) is that anyone who is rude enough to ignore the guidelines in general will also "accidentally" forget the OT flag as well. Basically, if you outlaw spamming, only outlaws will eat spam.....or something....

-Travis

On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Phil Darnowsky <ph...@darnowsky.com> wrote:
Good point. It seems to me that (a) that would be a legitimate use of the list, and (b) the best way to do that would be to tag the subject line with something like "[NONRUBY-JOB]". What do you guys think?

--Phil


On 05/27/2011 05:53 PM, Craig P Jolicoeur wrote:
What about job postings for non-ruby work where a member is looking for help from other members on a networking level?

For instance, my company currently needs helps with iOS work and are looking for a few consultants and I'd love to get recommendations from members/friends here at Boston.rb but have never posted since it's a non-ruby job.

- Craig

we had before - all the info& �history in one single place.

With the mailing list approach, can the join process show recently posted
emails? That's seems important.
I also found it tedious to scan though and compare recent postings when
they are in a large number of separate emails rather than the 'one page'
approach used previously.
As users ('seekers') will often want to see a list of what's been posted
in the last, say, 3 months at the time that they deem they are 'available'
(or move to the area say) not sure if the mailing list really addresses
those use cases. Plus some users will just want to scan the list every now
and then without actually being on an active 'available' mailing list. �Also
<bcard...@gmail.com> �wrote:
Unfortunately there isn't an automated welcome message other than if I
personally engage any new comers. Which is do-able. It would be nice if
Google Groups allowed us to have a "sticky" top post with guidelines,
notices, etc...
What would people feel about a boston-rubygroup-jobs mailing list?
- Brian
On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 3:20 PM, Phil Darnowsky<ph...@darnowsky.com>
wrote:
Is there an automated welcome message to the group? If so, could we
add a prominent pointer to the job posting guidelines?

--Phil

On 05/27/2011 03:15 PM, Brian Cardarella wrote:

While I agree we should encourage people to post job postings in the
proper way ([JOB] in the subject line) this post was completely off topic.
There isn't a single mention of anything that resembles a Ruby related job
at all. That should not be encouraged.
- Brian

On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Dan Pickett
Hi Guys,

I know how much we all hate getting spammed by �head hunters� so
I�ll keep this brief�



I�m looking for the following types of people for an RFP we�re

bidding on; along with hourly rates.



If you or anyone you know fit these roles please send me their (tim
@ timgolden.com) contact info and I�ll follow up with them individually
about the specifics.



Thanks�.




Tim



Roles looking to fill (per contract); hourly rates:



� � � � � Information Architect - Help organize and prioritize

content; create wireframes, storyboards and related materials to serve as a
�blueprint� for building the website or application



� � � � � Graphic Designer, Web Designer - Create �flat� mockups of

websites, logos, applications, interactive modules or other web parts. Well
versed in CSS, XML, and XHTML.



� � � � � Sr. Graphic Designer - Meet with clients to understand
branding& �aesthetic objectives and create designs to support these
objectives. Provide art direction to junior designers. Create �flat� mockups

of websites, logos, applications, interactive modules and other web parts.
Fluent in XML, CSS, and XHTML. Some ActionScript and JavaScript knowledge
preferred. Understand the nuances of designing for different end products
(flash, video, HTML, applications, etc.). Be well versed in browser
compatibility issues, Section 508 compliance and fallback solutions for
Flash media.



� � � � � Project Manager - Ensure that the various pieces of a

website, multimedia or other project stay on track. Meet with business
owners and key stakeholders to identify project goals. Establish attendant
timelines and project plans. Identify issues as they arise and adjust
timelines and/or resources as needed. Act as liaison between the business
and technical parties.



� � � � � Web Developers - Develops applications specifically for

the Web. Expert in .NET using C#, as well as related technologies including
XML, XHTML, SQL, JavaScript, AJAX and DoJo. Familiar with VSS and MS Visual
Studio.



� � � � � Front-end Web Developer, Coder - Works with User
Interface related technologies on the �front end� (non-database) of web

development. Expert in technologies such as XML, XHTML, CSS, JavaScript and
jQuery. ActionScript knowledge preferred (2.0 and/or 3.0).



� � � � � Silverlight Developer - Develop interactive modules and

rich media content using Microsoft�s Silverlight



� � � � � Video Editor - Edit video using Adobe Premier and/or

Final Cut Pro. Be able to integrate audio clips, overlays, titles and
credits into existing clips. Understand the nuances of rendering video for
consumption on different devices. Conversant in the mechanics of streaming
video and how to optimize video accordingly based on metrics. Should have a
reel available for demonstrating portfolio.



� � � � � Interactive Media Specialist - Build interactive training

modules using Adobe Flash and Captivate. Coordinate the development of a
script with SME (subject matter expert). Proven record in voiceover work,
with a clear and engaging narrative voice. Experience in audio editing
software and teaching/training a plus.



� � � � � Presentation Graphics Specialist -Develop PowerPoint,

Captivate and other multimedia presentations.



� � � � � Technical Writer (documentation) - Write a variety of

technical documents from standards documents to technical development plans.
Should be conversant in a wide range of web technologies.



� � � � � Testers - Test websites and applications for functional,

performance and usability. Attention to detail and a strong grasp of UX
required.



� � � � � Web Analytics Contractor - Helps analyze web stats

thoroughly to understand user behavior and make recommendations based on
data to improve and enhance user experience.



� � � � � Web Content Specialist - Strong writing background with a

Chris Rhoden

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May 27, 2011, 7:00:07 PM5/27/11
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I definitely think the most offensive thing to me is that these posts are drive-by. I can believe that there is significant community overlap, and I am for taking advantage of that, but a copy-pasted-off-topic-post without even a [JOB] in the subject line is very frustrating. Especially since it is extremely unlikely that Tim Golden has seen any of our reaction to his post, and will probably never be back, anyway.

we had before - all the info&  history in one single place.

With the mailing list approach, can the join process show recently posted
emails? That's seems important.
I also found it tedious to scan though and compare recent postings when
they are in a large number of separate emails rather than the 'one page'
approach used previously.
As users ('seekers') will often want to see a list of what's been posted
in the last, say, 3 months at the time that they deem they are 'available'
(or move to the area say) not sure if the mailing list really addresses
those use cases. Plus some users will just want to scan the list every now
and then without actually being on an active 'available' mailing list.  Also
<bcard...@gmail.com>  wrote:
Unfortunately there isn't an automated welcome message other than if I
personally engage any new comers. Which is do-able. It would be nice if
Google Groups allowed us to have a "sticky" top post with guidelines,
notices, etc...
What would people feel about a boston-rubygroup-jobs mailing list?
- Brian
On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 3:20 PM, Phil Darnowsky<ph...@darnowsky.com>
wrote:
Is there an automated welcome message to the group? If so, could we
add a prominent pointer to the job posting guidelines?

--Phil

On 05/27/2011 03:15 PM, Brian Cardarella wrote:

While I agree we should encourage people to post job postings in the
proper way ([JOB] in the subject line) this post was completely off topic.
There isn't a single mention of anything that resembles a Ruby related job
at all. That should not be encouraged.
- Brian

On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Dan Pickett
Hi Guys,

I know how much we all hate getting spammed by “head hunters” so
I’ll keep this brief…



I’m looking for the following types of people for an RFP we’re

bidding on; along with hourly rates.



If you or anyone you know fit these roles please send me their (tim
@ timgolden.com) contact info and I’ll follow up with them individually
about the specifics.



Thanks….




Tim



Roles looking to fill (per contract); hourly rates:



·         Information Architect - Help organize and prioritize

content; create wireframes, storyboards and related materials to serve as a
“blueprint” for building the website or application



·         Graphic Designer, Web Designer - Create “flat” mockups of

websites, logos, applications, interactive modules or other web parts. Well
versed in CSS, XML, and XHTML.



·         Sr. Graphic Designer - Meet with clients to understand
branding&  aesthetic objectives and create designs to support these
objectives. Provide art direction to junior designers. Create “flat” mockups

of websites, logos, applications, interactive modules and other web parts.
Fluent in XML, CSS, and XHTML. Some ActionScript and JavaScript knowledge
preferred. Understand the nuances of designing for different end products
(flash, video, HTML, applications, etc.). Be well versed in browser
compatibility issues, Section 508 compliance and fallback solutions for
Flash media.



·         Project Manager - Ensure that the various pieces of a

website, multimedia or other project stay on track. Meet with business
owners and key stakeholders to identify project goals. Establish attendant
timelines and project plans. Identify issues as they arise and adjust
timelines and/or resources as needed. Act as liaison between the business
and technical parties.



·         Web Developers - Develops applications specifically for

the Web. Expert in .NET using C#, as well as related technologies including
XML, XHTML, SQL, JavaScript, AJAX and DoJo. Familiar with VSS and MS Visual
Studio.



·         Front-end Web Developer, Coder - Works with User
Interface related technologies on the “front end” (non-database) of web

development. Expert in technologies such as XML, XHTML, CSS, JavaScript and
jQuery. ActionScript knowledge preferred (2.0 and/or 3.0).



·         Silverlight Developer - Develop interactive modules and
rich media content using Microsoft’s Silverlight



·         Video Editor - Edit video using Adobe Premier and/or

Final Cut Pro. Be able to integrate audio clips, overlays, titles and
credits into existing clips. Understand the nuances of rendering video for
consumption on different devices. Conversant in the mechanics of streaming
video and how to optimize video accordingly based on metrics. Should have a
reel available for demonstrating portfolio.



·         Interactive Media Specialist - Build interactive training

modules using Adobe Flash and Captivate. Coordinate the development of a
script with SME (subject matter expert). Proven record in voiceover work,
with a clear and engaging narrative voice. Experience in audio editing
software and teaching/training a plus.



·         Presentation Graphics Specialist -Develop PowerPoint,

Captivate and other multimedia presentations.



·         Technical Writer (documentation) - Write a variety of

technical documents from standards documents to technical development plans.
Should be conversant in a wide range of web technologies.



·         Testers - Test websites and applications for functional,

performance and usability. Attention to detail and a strong grasp of UX
required.



·         Web Analytics Contractor - Helps analyze web stats

thoroughly to understand user behavior and make recommendations based on
data to improve and enhance user experience.



·         Web Content Specialist - Strong writing background with a



--
chrisrhoden

Andrew Kuklewicz

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May 27, 2011, 10:23:56 PM5/27/11
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The horse is beaten soundly, but in spite of that, what I would say is it would be a shame if legitimate members of this list and community feel like they can't post an iOS or whatever job at all, or without first figuring out the filtering scheme for fear of offending someone's mailbox, or receiving (even a mild) shellacking (which I do not know how to spell, thank you gmail).

I suggest KISS - stay with [JOB]: it works for those who will pay attention enough to use it or filter it.
Others, well, that stuff is going to happen, but we'll all live, and market forces will eventually deal with it.

Personally, I'm fine with anyone who wants to come on this list and post a even a remotely legit Ruby-ish job in the Boston-ish area (and I would easily count other tech adjacent to Ruby in that, like all things mobile, node.js, html5/css3/js/jQuery, etc.).
Do any of you folks on this list seriously only ever do Ruby, or only want to? Hells no.

And woe be onto you who do not remember the days of the dot com bust, when you might pray for such posts as we are trying to filter, conform, and make fun of... Stay humble; chances are we'll see such a thing again.

Andrew Kuklewicz

Ted Roche

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Jun 2, 2011, 9:29:50 AM6/2/11
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On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 7:00 PM, Chris Rhoden <carh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I definitely think the most offensive thing to me is that these posts are
> drive-by. I can believe that there is significant community overlap, and I
> am for taking advantage of that, but a copy-pasted-off-topic-post without
> even a [JOB] in the subject line is very frustrating. Especially since it is
> extremely unlikely that Tim Golden has seen any of our reaction to his post,
> and will probably never be back, anyway.
>

I hate to waste anyone's time on a thread in which Goodwin's is
already invoked, but I'll counter with a good Hanlon's Razor:

Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

I know Tim. He's a regular attendee of the New Hampshire Ruby group
and was generous enough to serve as host for his company, RMC
Research, who housed the Ruby group for over a year. And he's a good
guy, well-intentioned if occasionally off the mark.

I think this was a case of "not thinking things through" more than
spam. Tim is an internal IT guy and hires contractors for projects. I
suspect he did a broadcast email or intended to send this to the
NHRuby group rather than the Boston group, and it was targeted at
multi-lingual programmers rather than an off-topic Ruby post.

That said, a well-thought out job posting policy would be welcomed.

--
Ted Roche
Ted Roche & Associates, LLC
http://www.tedroche.com

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