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Massimo Delledonne

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Feb 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/6/99
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Hi,
I'm deploying ... everything seems fine, but when I try to install the
application on another computer, at the end of the installation I get
the following message:

'The file IDAPI32.CNF could not be located in support dir'

if I click on OK I get another message:

'Config file: c:\program files\common files\borland\bde\idapi.cnf'

Application doesn't run. Error with Vdb7run.exe

any idea?

thanks a lot

Massimo Delledonne


Ken Mayer [TeamB]

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Feb 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/6/99
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Massimo Delledonne <delle@pc#removeit#.unicatt.it> wrote:

Have you downloaded and read DEPLOY7.ZIP at my website? It covers a
lot of things, one of which is the need to do a FULL BDE installation
-- don't bother with the partial -- you will always have errors.
Included is a list of files that must be deployed and their respective
groups -- you may want to make sure you're getting them all.

Ken
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Massimo Delledonne

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Feb 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/8/99
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Dear Ken,
I'm deploying the whole BDE but, reading your DEPLOY7.ZIP, I found that
I have just one IDAPI32.CNF loaded on my computer (the one I use to
develop application), under installshield/redist, which is dated
04/02/1996.
Therefore, its date is different from teh date you report.
You mention that with BDE 5.01 this file should be dated even
differently from the one to be used with the old BDE. I'm wondering
where to find IDAPI32.CNF for BDE 4 and 5

thanks

Massimo

Ken Mayer [TeamB]

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Feb 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/9/99
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Massimo Delledonne <delle@pc#REMOVETHIS#.unicatt.it> wrote:

>I'm deploying the whole BDE but, reading your DEPLOY7.ZIP, I found that
>I have just one IDAPI32.CNF loaded on my computer (the one I use to
>develop application), under installshield/redist, which is dated
>04/02/1996.
>Therefore, its date is different from teh date you report.
>You mention that with BDE 5.01 this file should be dated even
>differently from the one to be used with the old BDE. I'm wondering
>where to find IDAPI32.CNF for BDE 4 and 5

Dunno. I got that information from someone else. Did you download the
2.01 version of InstallShield?

Massimo Delledonne

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Yes Ken, I'm using InstallShield 2.01, and in the /REDIST folder there
is just one IDAPI32.CNF .. one year older than the one you mention
should be used to deploy

Any suggestion?

Massimo

Marilyn Price

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Feb 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/9/99
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Ken Mayer [TeamB] wrote:
>
>
> Have you downloaded and read DEPLOY7.ZIP at my website? It covers a
> lot of things, one of which is the need to do a FULL BDE installation
> -- don't bother with the partial -- you will always have errors.
>

Just recently did my first deploy. Following advice here, I specified
the full BDE and verified the file list with that shown in deploy7.

Still got an error installing on a machine that didn't have _any_
version of BDE on it - no Corel, Delphi, etc. and the only dBASE
versions installed were DOS ones.

There was a message box about a failure to merge BDE configuration
files. I had it continue (what the heck <g>?) and all seems to be
working correctly. However, having that messagebox with the red stop
sign pop up was unnerving....

Was it me? or something in ISE?

Marilyn

Romain Strieff [TeamB]

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Feb 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/9/99
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In article <36C033...@tricon.net>, Marilyn Price politely paraphrased
...
Was there vdB5.# on that system? 16 and 32 bit configs can be merged as
well.
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Unknown

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Feb 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/9/99
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On Tue, 9 Feb 1999 14:35:52 +0100, Romain Strieff [TeamB] wrote:

> Was there vdB5.# on that system? 16 and 32 bit configs can be merged as
> well.

Even if not, selecting to save CFG file for both 16/32 bit versions
_could_ be the major player here.

Gary White

Some dBase stuff at:
http://www.apptools.com/dbase

Ken Mayer [TeamB]

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Feb 10, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/10/99
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Massimo Delledonne <delle@pc#REMOVETHIS#.unicatt.it> wrote:

>Yes Ken, I'm using InstallShield 2.01, and in the /REDIST folder there
>is just one IDAPI32.CNF .. one year older than the one you mention
>should be used to deploy
>
>Any suggestion?

Nope. Did the deploy work? Did you get the latest version of the
DEPLOY7 file? It includes more information that may help you out with
this.

Massimo Delledonne

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Feb 10, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/10/99
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Dear Ken,
I've downloaded your DEPLOY7 file 3 days ago. I suppose it is the latest
version.
In it, you mention that IDAPI32.CNF should be dated 02-24-97 for BDE 4.5
(according to Rick Miller), whereas for BDE 5.01 it should be dated
11-14-97 (according to Gerald Lightsey).
Now, as written before, when I deploy my application I get the following

message:
'The file IDAPI32.CNF could not be located in support dir'
if I click on OK I get another message:
'Config file: c:\program files\common files\borland\bde\idapi.cnf'
If I try to run the application, it doesn't. Error with Vdb7run.exe

Now, the problem seems to be related to IDAPI32.CNF, which on my
computer is dated 04/02/1996. I've reinstalled installshield 2.01 but
still that file is dated 1996 and still is not possible to deploy .....
Of course I've choosen the FULL BDE installation ...

With ISE 2.01 and VdB 7.01, I am not able to obtain a successful
installation of my application on a computer which does not carry VdB7
already.

any help?

Massimo

Marilyn Price

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Feb 10, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/10/99
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Romain Strieff [TeamB] wrote:
>
> >
> > There was a message box about a failure to merge BDE configuration
> > files. I had it continue (what the heck <g>?) and all seems to be
> > working correctly. However, having that messagebox with the red stop
> > sign pop up was unnerving....
> >
> > Was it me? or something in ISE?
> >
> Was there vdB5.# on that system? 16 and 32 bit configs can be merged as
> well.


Nope. Brand new computer with little on it yet. Definitely no BDE at
all (I looked <g>)

Marilyn

Ken Mayer [TeamB]

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Feb 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/11/99
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Massimo Delledonne <delle@pc#REMOVETHIS#.unicatt.it> wrote:

>With ISE 2.01 and VdB 7.01, I am not able to obtain a successful
>installation of my application on a computer which does not carry VdB7
>already.
>
>any help?

I'm sorry, but I have no ideas ...

Unknown

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On Wed, 10 Feb 1999 14:01:47 +0100, Massimo Delledonne wrote:

> With ISE 2.01 and VdB 7.01, I am not able to obtain a successful
> installation of my application on a computer which does not carry VdB7
> already.

I don't know what you're doing differently, but I have deployed
VdB7.01/IS2.01 on non-VdB computers. I don't remember doing anything
special. I did not set up any aliases because the program code did
that. I did nothing special for the BDE except include a FULL BDE
deployment and did NOT specify both 16 and 32 bit.

Massimo Delledonne

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Feb 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/11/99
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Ok,
thanks anyway ...

Massimo

"Ken Mayer [TeamB]" wrote:


>
> Massimo Delledonne <delle@pc#REMOVETHIS#.unicatt.it> wrote:
>
> >With ISE 2.01 and VdB 7.01, I am not able to obtain a successful
> >installation of my application on a computer which does not carry VdB7
> >already.
> >

Robert W. Newman

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Feb 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/11/99
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Massimo Delledonne wrote:
>
>
> With ISE 2.01 and VdB 7.01, I am not able to obtain a successful
> installation of my application on a computer which does not carry VdB7
> already.
>
> any help?
>

> Massimo
>
I ran into this same problem when I attempted to deploy my project when
working on the beta of Ken's Tutorial Project, but finally concluded it
was something I'd done wrong in the coding.

Strangely, I could get it to work if I installed vdb7 on the computer
after the project, and then remove vdb7 immediately. If I then
reinstalled the project, it again would not run. Something gets written
over, but what?
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Gerald Lightsey

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Feb 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/11/99
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On Thu, 11 Feb 1999 04:34:22 GMT, in the borland.public.vdbase.deployment
group, (Gary) said...

> I don't know what you're doing differently, but I have deployed
> VdB7.01/IS2.01 on non-VdB computers. I don't remember doing anything
> special. I did not set up any aliases because the program code did
> that. I did nothing special for the BDE except include a FULL BDE
> deployment and did NOT specify both 16 and 32 bit.
>
Have you successfully deployed BDE version 5.01?

Gerald

Unknown

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On Thu, 11 Feb 1999 13:31:38 -0800, Gerald Lightsey wrote:

> Have you successfully deployed BDE version 5.01?

Nope, I haven't had a need to do a deployment since I got the upgraded
BDE. I think it was 4.51(?) whatever shipped with VdB7.


Gary

Some dBASE Stuff at
http://www.AppTools.com/dbase

Gerald Lightsey

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On Thu, 11 Feb 1999 23:25:55 GMT, in the borland.public.vdbase.deployment
group, (Gary) said...

> > Have you successfully deployed BDE version 5.01?
>
> Nope, I haven't had a need to do a deployment since I got the upgraded
> BDE. I think it was 4.51(?) whatever shipped with VdB7.
>
>
> Gary
>
I would like to ask if anyone has been able to deploy BDE version 5.01.
I have 5.01 from performing inline update 1 and 2 for Delphi 4. I tried
to deploy Ken's Tutorial project with it. At the end of the deploy I
get an error form labeled "Severe" that says "Merging The Configuration
File Has Failed. Config File: C:\Program files\Common
Files\Borland\BDE\IDAPI.CNF"

This is followed by another error "Failed In Adding Alias The Error
Number is 3, Initialization Failed"

If I try to open the deployed application it errors with "This Program
has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down"

Both the development PC and the target PC are running Windows 98.

I have seen several posts from others indicating they had encountered the
"Merging" error above. No one has come back saying they had overcome the
problem.

Gerald

Massimo Delledonne

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Feb 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/12/99
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Well,
I'm not happy to see I'm not the only one with the 'severe problem'
window indicating a problem with IDAPI32.CNF, but on the other hand I'm
happy not to be alone with this problem.
It seems to be a generalised problem, therefore we probably need
Inprise/Borland help to solve it ...

I don't know of anybody who has been able to deploy with BDE 5 .. may be
it's time for the company to help us DISTRIBUTING what we have created
What hell can I do with an application that cannot be installed on
customer's computers?

anyway, hope to be able to install my application soon, but I'm not able
to do that without your help

thanks for all, guys

Massimo

InstallShield Software Corp.

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Feb 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/12/99
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On Tue, 09 Feb 1999 08:09:04 -0500, Marilyn Price <MPr...@tricon.net>

wrote:
>There was a message box about a failure to merge BDE configuration
>files. I had it continue (what the heck <g>?) and all seems to be
>working correctly. However, having that messagebox with the red stop
>sign pop up was unnerving....

That usually happens when there are BDE registry keys left. Before the
install runs, check whether the following two registry keys exist:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Borland\BLW32
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Borland\Database Engine

If you are sure there never was a BDE application on that machine, these
two keys should NOT exist.

Stefan
InstallShield Software Corp.

InstallShield Software Corp.

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On Thu, 11 Feb 1999 21:56:22 -0800, glig...@cari.net (Gerald Lightsey)
wrote:

>get an error form labeled "Severe" that says "Merging The Configuration
>File Has Failed. Config File: C:\Program files\Common
>Files\Borland\BDE\IDAPI.CNF"

Hi Gerald,

this is probably due to the fact that the IDAPINST.DLL that is shipped with
InstallShield Express 2.01 is not the correct version.

The DLL that you require (Version 5.x) is available at
http://www.tdag.org/downloads/idapinst50.dll.

Rename it to idapinst.dll and replace any existing version after making a
backup. This DLL will ONLY work with BDE 5.0 and above.

Also follow the instructions that are given elsewhere in this thread on how
to deploy BDE 5.0 with the Express version that is shipped/downloadable for
VDbase.

Stefan
InstallShield Software Corp.

Gerald Lightsey

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On Fri, 12 Feb 1999 18:05:28 GMT, in the borland.public.vdbase.deployment
group, stefan(at)installshield(dot)co(dot)za (InstallShield Software
Corp.) said...
I tried the link above and ran into a blind alley in obtaining
IDAPINST.DLL. Is there an alternate source?

Gerald

Unknown

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On Fri, 12 Feb 1999 12:16:49 -0800, Gerald Lightsey wrote:

> > The DLL that you require (Version 5.x) is available at
> > http://www.tdag.org/downloads/idapinst50.dll.
> >

> I tried the link above and ran into a blind alley in obtaining
> IDAPINST.DLL. Is there an alternate source?

It worked ok for me. Maybe a temporary problem. You might try it
again.

Gerald Lightsey

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On Fri, 12 Feb 1999 21:08:33 GMT, in the borland.public.vdbase.deployment
group, (Gary) said...
I'm feeling more than a little stupid at this point. <g> When I follow
the link above I reach what appears to be the TDAG home page. It has
five selections at the top: Members, News, Showcase, Links, Contact.
I see nothing on the page that speaks of any file availability. The
closest I can get to idapinst50.dll is to follow the link over to
InstallShield and I suppose I could download the whole InstallShield
2.01. What am I missing in this chase?

What is the date and size of the revised file. Is it the same one that
comes with InstallShield Express on the Delphi 4 CD?

Gerald

John Staub

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Feb 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/12/99
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Stephan,

If we upgraded to 2.04 do we still need to d/l this file?

John

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Gerald Lightsey wrote in message ...

Gerald Lightsey

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On Sat, 13 Feb 1999 01:12:03 GMT, in the borland.public.vdbase.deployment
group, (Gary) said...
> That is strange because the URL does not point to an html page, it
> points directly to the DLL. You shouldn't go to _any_ page, your
> browser should just download the file.
>
> At any rate:
>
> file size: 114,176 bytes
> file date: ? mine has today's date
>
I use MS Explorer 4.0 and it just goes to the home page and never sees a
file. Call us "dumb and dumber". I am curious, are you able to make a
successful deploy with BDE 5.01 and this new file?

Gerald

Gerald Lightsey

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On Sat, 13 Feb 1999 01:38:25 GMT, in the borland.public.vdbase.deployment
group, Ken Mayer [TeamB] said...
> Thanks for the info. Time to go update DEPLOY7 again ...
>
Suggest you confirm that someone has had success with it before you do.
I would give you results except I haven't been successful in getting the
file. <g>

Gerald

Unknown

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On Fri, 12 Feb 1999 14:26:41 -0800, Gerald Lightsey wrote:

> > > > The DLL that you require (Version 5.x) is available at
> > > > http://www.tdag.org/downloads/idapinst50.dll.

> I'm feeling more than a little stupid at this point. <g> When I follow

> the link above I reach what appears to be the TDAG home page. It has
> five selections at the top: Members, News, Showcase, Links, Contact.
> I see nothing on the page that speaks of any file availability. The
> closest I can get to idapinst50.dll is to follow the link over to
> InstallShield and I suppose I could download the whole InstallShield
> 2.01. What am I missing in this chase?
>
> What is the date and size of the revised file. Is it the same one that
> comes with InstallShield Express on the Delphi 4 CD?

That is strange because the URL does not point to an html page, it


points directly to the DLL. You shouldn't go to _any_ page, your
browser should just download the file.

At any rate:

file size: 114,176 bytes
file date: ? mine has today's date

Ken Mayer [TeamB]

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glig...@cari.net (Gerald Lightsey) wrote:

>I would like to ask if anyone has been able to deploy BDE version 5.01.
>I have 5.01 from performing inline update 1 and 2 for Delphi 4. I tried
>to deploy Ken's Tutorial project with it. At the end of the deploy I

>get an error form labeled "Severe" that says "Merging The Configuration
>File Has Failed. Config File: C:\Program files\Common
>Files\Borland\BDE\IDAPI.CNF"

Check out the latest version of the DEPLOY7.ZIP at my site. It
includes some more information that may help ...

Ken Mayer [TeamB]

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stefan(at)installshield(dot)co(dot)za (InstallShield Software Corp.)
wrote:

>this is probably due to the fact that the IDAPINST.DLL that is shipped with
>InstallShield Express 2.01 is not the correct version.
>
>The DLL that you require (Version 5.x) is available at
>http://www.tdag.org/downloads/idapinst50.dll.

Thanks for the info. Time to go update DEPLOY7 again ...

Ken Mayer [TeamB]

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"John Staub" <bmds@send_me_nothing_worldnet.att.net> wrote:

>Stephan,
>
> If we upgraded to 2.04 do we still need to d/l this file?

2.04? There is no Visual dBASE 2.04 ... not that I'm aware of ...
there's a 2.01 ISE update ... (and if that's what you mean, yes, if
you are using BDE 5.x you would need the new .DLL).

Ken Mayer [TeamB]

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Massimo Delledonne <delle@pc#REMOVETHIS#.unicatt.it> wrote:

>I don't know of anybody who has been able to deploy with BDE 5 .. may be
>it's time for the company to help us DISTRIBUTING what we have created
>What hell can I do with an application that cannot be installed on
>customer's computers?

Check Stefan's message in this thread about a new .DLL being needed
and being available at the InstallShield website (he gives the URL).

Ken Mayer [TeamB]

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glig...@cari.net (Gerald Lightsey) wrote:

>Suggest you confirm that someone has had success with it before you do.
>I would give you results except I haven't been successful in getting the
>file. <g>

Hmm. Maybe a real browser would do the job better (gdr&rvvvvvf!)

Romain Strieff [TeamB]

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In article <36c4d076...@forums.borland.com>, (Gary) politely
paraphrased ...

>
> That is strange because the URL does not point to an html page, it
> points directly to the DLL. You shouldn't go to _any_ page, your
> browser should just download the file.
>
>
With IE 4.01 it was impossible, I had to use Getright for it.

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Romain Strieff [TeamB]

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In article <36c46b94...@forums.inprise.com>,
stefan(at)installshield(dot)co(dot)za (InstallShield Software Corp.)
politely paraphrased ...
> Hi Gerald,

>
> this is probably due to the fact that the IDAPINST.DLL that is shipped with
> InstallShield Express 2.01 is not the correct version.
>
> The DLL that you require (Version 5.x) is available at
> http://www.tdag.org/downloads/idapinst50.dll.
>
> Rename it to idapinst.dll and replace any existing version after making a
> backup. This DLL will ONLY work with BDE 5.0 and above.
>
> Also follow the instructions that are given elsewhere in this thread on how
> to deploy BDE 5.0 with the Express version that is shipped/downloadable for
> VDbase.
>
So if I installed Delphi 4.0 with BDE 5.01 later I should already have
the right one? (It has exactly the same size)

John Staub

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Ken, Sorry for the confusion. There is also a 2.04 ISE upgrade that I
recently downloaded.

John
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Ken Mayer [TeamB] wrote in message <36c4cfc8...@forums.borland.com>...


>"John Staub" <bmds@send_me_nothing_worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
>>Stephan,
>>
>> If we upgraded to 2.04 do we still need to d/l this file?
>
>2.04? There is no Visual dBASE 2.04 ... not that I'm aware of ...
>there's a 2.01 ISE update ... (and if that's what you mean, yes, if
>you are using BDE 5.x you would need the new .DLL).
>

Unknown

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On Fri, 12 Feb 1999 21:35:43 -0800, Gerald Lightsey wrote:

> I use MS Explorer 4.0 and it just goes to the home page and never sees a
> file. Call us "dumb and dumber". I am curious, are you able to make a
> successful deploy with BDE 5.01 and this new file?

I use IE 4.01. I just double clicked the url in Agent and IE snagged
the file for me. As far as a deployment with the new file, I'll try
it. I don't have a really clean machine to test on now.

Ken Mayer [TeamB]

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"John Staub" <bmds@send_me_nothing_worldnet.att.net> wrote:

>Ken, Sorry for the confusion. There is also a 2.04 ISE upgrade that I
>recently downloaded.

Actually I realized when I saw my posting that I typoed that. Does
this work to just upgrade your Visual dBASE ISE? Or is it a separate
version? If a separate version it may not understand Visual dBASE, the
BDE, and such.

Gerald Lightsey

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On Sat, 13 Feb 1999 06:15:06 GMT, in the borland.public.vdbase.deployment
group, Ken Mayer [TeamB] said...
> Hmm. Maybe a real browser would do the job better (gdr&rvvvvvf!)
>
I tried Netscape 4.04 also same results.

Gerald

Gerald Lightsey

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On Sat, 13 Feb 1999 13:01:00 +0100, in the
borland.public.vdbase.deployment group, Romain Strieff [TeamB] said...

> With IE 4.01 it was impossible, I had to use Getright for it.
>
>
I used Getright and it brought in a 5,685 byte web page not a file.

Gerald

John Staub

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I originally received ISE 2.01 when I ordered it. I was planning on using
it for some 16 bit deployments, then realized it would do 32 bit vdB also.
I don't think it works with the version that came with vdB, but it does
understand and deploy both the 16 and 32 bit versions of vdB, and integrates
the 32 bit BDE in quite well.

It did not upgrade the version that came with 7.X.

John

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Gerald Lightsey

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On Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:37:21 +0100, in the
borland.public.vdbase.deployment group, Romain Strieff [TeamB] said...
> Strange? Named as .DLL?
>
Yes. I asked for and received
http://www.tdag.org/downloads/idapinst50.dll. Only thing is that the
file is the home page for The Delphi Advocacy Group.

Gerald

Romain Strieff [TeamB]

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In article <MPG.112f87826...@forums.borland.com>, Gerald
Lightsey politely paraphrased ...

> > With IE 4.01 it was impossible, I had to use Getright for it.
> >
> >
> I used Getright and it brought in a 5,685 byte web page not a file.
>
Strange? Named as .DLL?

Ken Mayer [TeamB]

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"John Staub" <bmds@send_me_nothing_worldnet.att.net> wrote:

>I originally received ISE 2.01 when I ordered it. I was planning on using
>it for some 16 bit deployments, then realized it would do 32 bit vdB also.
>I don't think it works with the version that came with vdB, but it does
>understand and deploy both the 16 and 32 bit versions of vdB, and integrates
>the 32 bit BDE in quite well.
>
>It did not upgrade the version that came with 7.X.

Ah, ok ... well, as long as it can handle the VDB7 runtime and BDE
stuff, that's cool.

Romain Strieff [TeamB]

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In article <MPG.112fc8156...@forums.borland.com>, Gerald
Lightsey politely paraphrased ...
>
Very strange? WHich version of getRight? (My version is 3.2)

InstallShield Software Corp.

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On Fri, 12 Feb 1999 14:26:41 -0800, glig...@cari.net (Gerald Lightsey)
wrote:

>closest I can get to idapinst50.dll is to follow the link over to
>InstallShield and I suppose I could download the whole InstallShield
>2.01. What am I missing in this chase?

You did not read my post correctly. I gave you a link directly to the file
for the exact reason that it is not reachable in any other ways.

Stefan
InstallShield Software Corp.

InstallShield Software Corp.

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On Fri, 12 Feb 1999 17:10:18 -0600, "John Staub"
<bmds@send_me_nothing_worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> If we upgraded to 2.04 do we still need to d/l this file?

No, but you must use the Delphi 4 project type to gain support for BDE 5


Stefan
InstallShield Software Corp.

InstallShield Software Corp.

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On Sat, 13 Feb 1999 01:38:33 GMT, suppo...@borland.com (Ken Mayer
[TeamB]) wrote:
>Check Stefan's message in this thread about a new .DLL being needed
>and being available at the InstallShield website (he gives the URL).

It is NOT the InstallShield website. It is the TDAG (The Delphi Advocacy
Group) site which I administer.

Stefan
InstallShield Software Corp.

Rick Miller

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-----Original Message-----
From: Massimo Delledonne
<delle@pc#REMOVETHIS#.unicatt.it>
Newsgroups: borland.public.vdbase.deployment
Date: Monday, February 08, 1999 4:10 AM
Subject: Re: ISE DOES NOT FIND IDAPI32.CNF


Dear Massimo,
The File You found was the correct one for
Deployment with the
Version of InstallShield that ships with VDB.
Idapi32.cnf last Modified date of February 4,
1996
The Deployment files are specific to the version
of InstallShield You use. InstallShield by
Default uses the files found in Your
BDE directory, Redist directory and Bin directory.
If You should install any Applications
ie: BDE 5.01, Delphi, IntraBuilder or C++Builder
one or more of these files may be changed.
The consequences of this can vary a great deal.
The error message You
describe is one of them.
The solution we implemented was to Copy the files
necessary for the
version of InstallShield we use with VDB
Deployments to a separate Directory.
Whenever we create a VDB Deployment we select the
files from this Directory.
>I have just one IDAPI32.CNF loaded on my computer (the one I use to
>develop application), under installshield/redist, which is dated
>04/02/1996.
Best of Luck to You,
Rick Miller

Gerald Lightsey

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On Sun, 14 Feb 1999 12:50:19 +0100, in the
borland.public.vdbase.deployment group, Romain Strieff [TeamB] said...
> Very strange? WHich version of getRight? (My version is 3.2)
>
3.3.1. When you go to the referenced Delphi Advocate web page do you get
any reference or link to download the .dll?

Gerald

Gerald Lightsey

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On Sun, 14 Feb 1999 22:29:51 GMT, in the borland.public.vdbase.deployment
group, stefan(at)installshield(dot)co(dot)za (InstallShield Software
Corp.) said...
> Due to the fact that it appears that Netscape and IE fail to pick up the
> file correctly I will put up a ZIP file as well.
>
> Please note that the filename is ALL in LOWERCASE, and NOT mixed case. That
> may be a reason why you are being redirected to the homepage.
>
> The location will be, as of 6pm EST,
> http://www.tdag.org/downloads/idapinst50.zip.
>
Stefan,

I appreciate your trying to help here, but I am still unable to penetrate
the above address. There does not seem to be a downloads page for
www.tdag.org. When I click on the above url exactly as shown above, I
just go to the home page of TDAG. If I input the above url into the
browser, same thing. If I use Getright on the above url I just get a
copy of the home page with the name idapinst50.zip.

I have always been able to download files set up for download on a web
site but this process sure isn't working for me.

Gerald

InstallShield Software Corp.

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On Sun, 14 Feb 1999 22:14:50 -0800, glig...@cari.net (Gerald Lightsey)
wrote:

>www.tdag.org. When I click on the above url exactly as shown above, I
>just go to the home page of TDAG. If I input the above url into the
>browser, same thing. If I use Getright on the above url I just get a
>copy of the home page with the name idapinst50.zip.

TDAG does not have a download page. Your browser is just not up for it. It
definitely works here.

Make sure you type it all in lowercase. Unix systems are case sensitive.

Stefan
InstallShield Software Corp.

InstallShield Software Corp.

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Feb 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/15/99
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On Sun, 14 Feb 1999 20:37:03 -0800, glig...@cari.net (Gerald Lightsey)
wrote:

>3.3.1. When you go to the referenced Delphi Advocate web page do you get
>any reference or link to download the .dll?

There won't be any.

Stefan
InstallShield Software Corp.

Gerald Lightsey

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On Tue, 16 Feb 1999 00:55:01 +0100, in the
borland.public.vdbase.deployment group, Romain Strieff [TeamB] said...
> I just copied the link when it did not work with the browser, started
> getRight and file/new url
>
I did the same. My actions are correct its just the results that are
wrong.

Gerald

Gerald Lightsey

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On Mon, 15 Feb 1999 20:57:38 GMT, in the borland.public.vdbase.deployment
group, stefan(at)installshield(dot)co(dot)za (InstallShield Software
Corp.) said...
> TDAG does not have a download page. Your browser is just not up for it. It
> definitely works here.
>
> Make sure you type it all in lowercase. Unix systems are case sensitive.
>
I'm following your instructions the results are just not right. Is it
possible for you to pass this file along to Borland as a download item
along with the 2.01 version of InstallShield Express or give them a
corrected version that contains the correct file?

Gerald

Romain Strieff [TeamB]

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Feb 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/16/99
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In article <MPG.1130d3672...@forums.borland.com>, Gerald
Lightsey politely paraphrased ...
> On Sun, 14 Feb 1999 12:50:19 +0100, in the
> borland.public.vdbase.deployment group, Romain Strieff [TeamB] said...
> > Very strange? WHich version of getRight? (My version is 3.2)
> >
> 3.3.1. When you go to the referenced Delphi Advocate web page do you get
> any reference or link to download the .dll?
>
I just copied the link when it did not work with the browser, started
getRight and file/new url

Romain Strieff [TeamB]

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Feb 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/16/99
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In article <36c88a50...@forums.inprise.com>,
stefan(at)installshield(dot)co(dot)za (InstallShield Software Corp.)
politely paraphrased ...
> >3.3.1. When you go to the referenced Delphi Advocate web page do you get
> >any reference or link to download the .dll?
>
> There won't be any.
>
>
Then some browsers have a security thing to make it unable to 'see'
unliked files if they are of of typme HTM perhaps?

Romain Strieff [TeamB]

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In article <36c889ce...@forums.inprise.com>,
stefan(at)installshield(dot)co(dot)za (InstallShield Software Corp.)
politely paraphrased ...
> TDAG does not have a download page. Your browser is just not up for it. It
> definitely works here.
>
> Make sure you type it all in lowercase. Unix systems are case sensitive.
>
>
BTW does this also work for the new BDE 5.02 version that ships with
Cbuilder 4 just a couple of days ago now?

Romain Strieff [TeamB]

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Feb 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/16/99
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In article <MPG.11326e2e7...@forums.borland.com>, Gerald
Lightsey politely paraphrased ...

> > I just copied the link when it did not work with the browser, started
> > getRight and file/new url
> >
> I did the same. My actions are correct its just the results that are
> wrong.
>
Then your newer version may have a bug.<G>

Unknown

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On Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:48:03 -0800, Gerald Lightsey wrote:

> I did the same. My actions are correct its just the results that are
> wrong.

Your actions may be correct, but something is wrong because it _did_
work for me. <G>

InstallShield Software Corp.

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Feb 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/17/99
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On Tue, 16 Feb 1999 00:57:05 +0100, te...@opto-pps.com (Romain Strieff
[TeamB]) wrote:
>BTW does this also work for the new BDE 5.02 version that ships with
>Cbuilder 4 just a couple of days ago now?

Yes it does. Otherwise look for IDAPINST.DLL while the BDE update setup is
running :)

Stefan
InstallShield Software Corp.

InstallShield Software Corp.

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On Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:47:18 -0800, glig...@cari.net (Gerald Lightsey)
wrote:

>possible for you to pass this file along to Borland as a download item
>along with the 2.01 version of InstallShield Express or give them a
>corrected version that contains the correct file?

I can't, sorry. This is mostly because I've gone against company policy and
have thrown any warnings in the wind to make the DLL available.

Stefan
InstallShield Software Corp.

Gerald Lightsey

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On Thu, 18 Feb 1999 01:42:35 GMT, in the borland.public.vdbase.deployment
group, (Gary) said...
> I hate to see you struggle with this darn thing so much, so I just
> e-mailed it to you. I hope you don't mind.
>
Thank you very much. I followed Stefans instructions regarding the new
file. Unfortunately, the deploy failed at the same spot that it did with
the old file. Have you had a chance to try it out yet?

Gerald

Gerald Lightsey

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On Wed, 17 Feb 1999 21:54:22 GMT, in the borland.public.vdbase.deployment
group, Stefan at InstallShield Software Corp. said...

> I can't, sorry. This is mostly because I've gone against company policy and
> have thrown any warnings in the wind to make the DLL available.
>
Gary was kind enough to send the new file to me. I followed your
instructions to change its name to IDAPINST.DLL and placed it in the
REDIST directory under the directory "IS Express for Visual dBASE 7",
which is the only place the old IDAPINST.DLL shows up in connection with
VdB7 in the development PC. I rebuilt the deployment. The results,
unfortunately is the same as before...

At the end of the deploy I get an error form labeled "Severe" that says
"Merging The Configuration File Has Failed. Config File: C:\Program
files\Common Files\Borland\BDE\IDAPI.CNF"

This is followed by another error "Failed In Adding Alias The Error
Number is 3, Initialization Failed"

If I try to open the deployed application it errors with "This Program
has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down"

Both the development PC and the target PC are running Windows 98.

...during the deployment I saw a reference to IDAPINST.DLL but after the
deployment the file did not show up anywhere on the target PC. Keep in
mind this is the latest version of the 5.1 BDE. Do you have any further
suggestions?

Gerald

Unknown

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Gerald,

I hate to see you struggle with this darn thing so much, so I just
e-mailed it to you. I hope you don't mind.

Gary


On Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:47:18 -0800, Gerald Lightsey wrote:

> On Mon, 15 Feb 1999 20:57:38 GMT, in the borland.public.vdbase.deployment
> group, stefan(at)installshield(dot)co(dot)za (InstallShield Software
> Corp.) said...

> > TDAG does not have a download page. Your browser is just not up for it. It
> > definitely works here.
> >
> > Make sure you type it all in lowercase. Unix systems are case sensitive.
> >

> I'm following your instructions the results are just not right. Is it

> possible for you to pass this file along to Borland as a download item
> along with the 2.01 version of InstallShield Express or give them a
> corrected version that contains the correct file?
>

> Gerald

Unknown

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On Wed, 17 Feb 1999 19:40:11 -0800, Gerald Lightsey wrote:

> Thank you very much. I followed Stefans instructions regarding the new
> file. Unfortunately, the deploy failed at the same spot that it did with
> the old file. Have you had a chance to try it out yet?

Nope.

tim_smith

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Feb 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/19/99
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On Sat, 13 Feb 1999 01:38:23 GMT, suppo...@borland.com (Ken Mayer
[TeamB]) wrote:

Hi Ken
Apparently your website has run out of bandwidth for this month.
I cannot download your guide. Did you know obout this?
(5.5 on the wierd-ometer scale)

Tim

--
Tim Smith
T...@dhscient.demon.co.uk


Massimo Delledonne

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Ciao Rick,
just got back from vacations ...

thanks for helping, I'll try your suggestions very soon

Massimo

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