LOL!! I'll forward it to my cat.
Any other cat owner in this ng?
I would if I could. I love the little beasts. However, I'd have to pay
something like $100 extra rent per month, and that's not worth it.
Have a great day!
Ernest
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Ten here.
I am running the local cathouse.
Otto
Four of them...
EdB
In article <3c9deb6f_1@dnews>, sadness[at]cheerful.com gave tongue to:
> Any other cat owner in this ng?
>
Used to be. Had as many as 4. Pet-free currently.
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That sounds celebratory. Maybe you meant "Pet-bereft" ?? <g>
Bob ;-)
In article <VA.000017b...@acm.org>, lo...@acm.org gave tongue to:
> That sounds celebratory. Maybe you meant "Pet-bereft" ?? <g>
>
I (we) still get tempted periodically. The limits that pet ownership places on
last-minute travel (the only kind we do outside of our once-a-year sojurn to
the 'States) keep us from taking the step.
That's the best part of cats. I can travel up to a week and not even worry
about the little fuzz ball. I have a friend come in and change the water
every day or two. It seems that fresh water is the most important part of
keeping her happy and healthy.
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Focus on the VERBS not the NOUNS.
- Tom Kelly, IDEO
I am owned by a cat if that's what you mean. <g>
Not my cats. They will NOT drink fresh water. Put a nice bowl a clean
water on the floor for them and they'll look at you like you're crazy and
head for the bathtub in hopes that there's a little puddle still there.
> Also in the US the veterinary costs are becoming so high that I
> have doubts I would get any more. :(
Yeah, I too have contributed a lot to my vets boot payments.
Otto
> Not my cats. They will NOT drink fresh water. Put a nice bowl a clean
> water on the floor for them and they'll look at you like you're crazy and
> head for the bathtub in hopes that there's a little puddle still there.
They do seem to like puddles of rain water, old and nicely scummy.
However, licking water straight from the tab is also a favorite.
Otto
Mine loves the tub water too. MMMM soap. Must taste wonderful. <g>
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"GenJerDan" <woj...@genjerdan.com> wrote in message news:3c9f3953_1@dnews...
Cats don't like to drink in the open, or something. When my
mother started hiding the water bowl down the side of the
piano, her cat started drinking from it. :)
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> I didn't know that! (None of mine ever minded)
Well, cats are not all the same.
Even science is coming around to this view:
Several month ago there was an article in Science News
that some researchers now think that cats may have
personalities!
Up to now the assumption was that if you have say
100 one year old female cats they are all the same.
What next, emotions?
Otto
I could have told the scientists that. I've owned three cats and each of
them was different in almost every way. One would only use the litter box
if it had a lid, one would not use the box with a lid. Solution... two
litter boxes. One would come to anyone who called him by name, another
would only come when you ignored it. The list goes on, but I don't want to
bore you all to death. <g>
Ditto what Liz said.
With mine, I think it also might be a bit because they were "street cats".
They also tend to be very quiet. It's rare to get any vocalizations out of
them at all, and definitely never a traditional meow.
I bought one of those indoor fountains for my cat, because he'd only
drink from the sink, the toilet, or from the bottom of the tub. He seems
to like the fountain, and now I never have to leave the sink dripping in
order to keep him watered. <g>
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I'd forgotten that! It does seem like many cats (and dogs) like those
fountain things.
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It's funny, because a cat dish that does this same thing is anywhere from
50 to 100 US dollars, and I found a simple little fountain for 20 US
dollars. The cat likes it, and its a cool little addition to the house,
although some of my guests have complained that it makes them take more
trips to the bathroom. <g>
Otto
We are owned by 8 of them!
-Dell
-Dell
Dogs think men are gods. Cats are not so easily deluded.
Cat law of perversity: If you can't eat it or sleep on it, shred it.
-Dell
Is that what that puddle is? I've always assumed it was accidental.
It's hard to tell with these two. I never catch them doing anything I know
they do.
>Not my cats. They will NOT drink fresh water. Put a nice bowl a clean
>water on the floor for them and they'll look at you like you're crazy and
>head for the bathtub in hopes that there's a little puddle still there.
Observation: Growing up our cats showed a definite preference
for cold water. Give them tap water and as you say they'll go look
for a puddle or a drip. Take the tap water and put it in the fridge
and they're happy with it.
>> LOL!! I'll forward it to my cat.
>>
>> Any other cat owner in this ng?
>
>I would if I could. I love the little beasts. However, I'd have to pay
>something like $100 extra rent per month, and that's not worth it.
They're pretty nice little things but I've got a cat-phobic wife.
A little later the angel returned, "We have another problem, since you gave
them that dog they have become impossible. They are beginning to believe
that they can do no wrong since he forgives everything and still adores
them. They are becoming very conceited and proud because of the dog."
"Ok, I have the answer to this problem." Said God and he went back to work.
When he was finished he sent down another companion, only this one did not
adore Adam and Eve. He did not mind them, in fact most of the time he acted
as if they existed only to serve his needs. Adam and Eve were humbled, God
was pleased, the angel was happy and..
The cat, well, the cat just didn't care
> They're pretty nice little things but I've got a cat-phobic wife.
You know, it works both ways:
-> "My husband said it was him or the cat ... I miss him
-> sometimes."
Otto
> They're pretty nice little things but I've got a cat-phobic wife.
I'm sure the cat wouldn't mind.
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> I'm sure the cat wouldn't mind.
It seems cats feel an irresistible attraction to the
laps of people who hate them or are allergic.
Otto
> It seems cats feel an irresistible attraction to the
> laps of people who hate them or are allergic.
"so he can't stand me, eh? Well, let's see how he likes this for a change"
*purr purr*
Yeah, I've heard that myself :)
Oh they love me no matter how bad my allergies get.
rob :)
So you'd pay to have someone play with your pussies?
rob :)
>> Several month ago there was an article in Science News
>> that some researchers now think that cats may have
>> personalities!
>
>I could have told the scientists that. I've owned three cats and each of
>them was different in almost every way. One would only use the litter box
>if it had a lid, one would not use the box with a lid. Solution... two
>litter boxes. One would come to anyone who called him by name, another
>would only come when you ignored it. The list goes on, but I don't want to
>bore you all to death. <g>
If you forgot to feed mine, she wouldn't say a thing, just locate
the bag, open a neat little hole in it and eat. My mother's would
just make a big protest. Any rule of the house that mine understood
would always be obeyed unless needs overrode it. (Example: Stay off
the counters. If you found her on the counter there was only one
explanation: An empty water dish.) My mother's could never be
trusted like that.
To add something really weird: If she could see my mother, she
would not bat wiggled fingers or the like with her paws, period. If
she could not see my mother she would grab wiggled fingers but without
claws. (Example, fingers stuck under a door.) We had no idea how she
ever got that idea or how to extend it to me.
Ummmm....the furry ones, yes :)
Brad
Thank you Rob, I'm glad someone else thought of that. :)
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liz
When I had an apartment, I had to pay an additional $100 security deposit in
exchange for the right to have a cat, but that was just a one time thing.
$100 a month sounds excessive.
Lesley Anne
I used to have a cat who would do that with milk, but I don't think she ever
did just for water.
Lesley Anne
> Ummmm....the furry ones, yes :)
That does not solve the ambiguity.
Otto
Nor would "unfurry" (given that there are more or less hairless
pussies of both sorts
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liz
and there are shaved cats
Otto
rob :)
>Nor would "unfurry" (given that there are more or less hairless
>pussies of both sorts
Some think there should be more :-)
More pussies? More sorts of pussies? More hair? More pussy (or
pussies) for themselves?
<s>
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>> I have a couple that like to drink out of glasses with their paws
>> - stick paw in, pull it out, lick water off of paw. It's cute to
>> watch but very annoying because they tend to choose my fresh
>> glass of ice water to do this in
>
>I used to have a cat who would do that with milk, but I don't think she ever
>did just for water.
My wife grew up in China where milk wasn't common--she didn't
know of cats fondness for milk. She was quite upset when she found my
mother's cat doing that to her glass of milk.
> My wife grew up in China where milk wasn't common--she didn't
>know of cats fondness for milk. She was quite upset when she found my
>mother's cat doing that to her glass of milk.
Quite a few cats are intolerant of cow's milk - it gives them the
runs.
I don't believe in lactose intolerance, either in humans OR animals.
It sounds like a made-up thing to me. JMO.
Have a great day!
Ernest
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In article <3ca54980$1_2@dnews>, ern...@delphidude.com gave tongue to:
> I don't believe in lactose intolerance, either in humans OR animals.
>
Are you serious? If so, you are seriously ill-informed.
==
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>I don't believe in lactose intolerance, either in humans OR animals.
>It sounds like a made-up thing to me. JMO.
No, it's not, it's simple science. Many humans, particularly Asians,
lack the lactase enzyme needed to break down lactose, and it causes
serious digestive problems as a result. Ditto for animals.
BTW, many dairy products give me diaorrhea and stomach cramps, but
I've never been tested for lactose intolerance. It wasn't a problem
when I was a kid, so it's unlikely.
You don't have to believe, you can smell it.
Otto
Why is it then that this suddenly became a "big problem" only within
the last few years. Before that, no one ever heard of it. It's silly.
Is AIDS a made-up thing because it was only discovered in
recent years?
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Not entirely true. The enzyme is a byproduct of a colony of bacteria.
If you don't eat milk, or ice cream for an extended period of time,
the colony can die out -- so even if it was OK when you were a kid,
it may no longer be.
Bob ;-)
>Why is it then that this suddenly became a "big problem" only within
>the last few years.
Health problems which have been ignored or misdiagnosed in the past
are becoming better understood all the time. Part of this process is
giving them accurate names.
I'm not aware that lactose intolerance was a recent discovery - I'm
sure I've known of it for many years - but I'll take your word for it
that it's been a well-kept secret in the US.
In article <3ca5f086$1_1@dnews>, ern...@delphidude.com gave tongue to:
> Why is it then that this suddenly became a "big problem" only within
> the last few years.
>
It was a big problem in 1971-1972 when my 2nd daughter was born, so I don't
know where you've been.
In article <44vbauoa42s2kmi2p...@4ax.com>,
mvw@remove_this.ozemail.com.au gave tongue to:
> I'm not aware that lactose intolerance was a recent discovery - I'm
> sure I've known of it for many years - but I'll take your word for it
> that it's been a well-kept secret in the US.
>
He is absolutely incorrect about that. My younger daughter was diagnosed as
lactose intolerant shortly after she was born in 1971. It was a known problem
at that time.
>Not entirely true. The enzyme is a byproduct of a colony of bacteria.
>If you don't eat milk, or ice cream for an extended period of time,
>the colony can die out -- so even if it was OK when you were a kid,
>it may no longer be.
Good point. I gave it up as an experiment to see if it would help my
guts, but I'd never abstained before. But I've certainly become more
sensitive to it since, so perhaps I really am intolerant now. Oddly,
yoghurt and cheese don't give me any grief at all.
Yoghurt and many cheeses aren't made of cow's milk. Parmesan etc,
come from goats milk -- which items don't have lactose to be intolerant
of ... <g>
Bob ;-)
I am pretty sure that yogurt is made almost exclusively
from cows milk, in the US and Europe.
I checked a couple of cartons I had on hand:
Old Home lists just milk, if it was not cow milk I think
it would say so.
Seven Stars Farm Organic yogurt specifically mentioned
Hand selected Guernsey cows.
I think it is the culture that makes the difference.
Otto
Must be debased stuff -- I'm sure the original (Mongolian)
recipe was with mare's milk or maybe goats, I don't think
they were running beef at the time ... BICBW!
> I think it is the culture that makes the difference.
Quite possible. Bacteriums are unpredictable critters ...
(not having studied them!)
Bob ;-)
In article <3ca64a7a$1_1@dnews>, OBA...@mn.rr.com gave tongue to:
> I checked a couple of cartons I had on hand:
> Old Home lists just milk, if it was not cow milk I think
> it would say so.
>
it is essentially the same over here. About 95% of youghurts and kefirs are
from normal cow's milk. The other 5% is probably split evenly between sheep's
and goat's milks.
>Yoghurt and many cheeses aren't made of cow's milk.
Are you sure about yoghurt? Sheep's milk yoghurt is a specialty item
here, and tastes quite different to the usual stuff. A yoghurt carton
I just checked lists "milk" as an ingredient, which I would bet means
moo juice.
>Parmesan etc,
>come from goats milk -- which items don't have lactose to be intolerant
>of ... <g>
http://www.cheese.com/Description.asp?Name=Parmesan%20(Parmigiano)
lists cow's milk as the source. Again, cheeses made from the milk of
other animals are expensive specialty items here, and parmesan isn't
one of them.
>I think it is the culture that makes the difference.
Perhaps it reduces the need for lactase in digestion, or maybe
my problem is something else entirely. I'll see what I can find about
it.
>Perhaps it reduces the need for lactase in digestion, or maybe
>my problem is something else entirely. I'll see what I can find about
>it.
From http://www.woolworths.com.au/dietinfo/rsa14.asp:
"Many people with lactose intolerance tolerate yoghurt because the
bacteria that thicken the yoghurt help in the breakdown of lactose.
However, some people do not find yoghurt helpful.
Cheese and butter are not a problem in lactose intolerance. Neither
contain more than trace quantities, with the exception of ricotta
cheese. However, even ricotta has relatively small amounts of lactose
and is unlikely to cause problems."
So there you go. Milk and ice cream are the worst offenders for me -
if if anyone has a tendency to digestive problems, I'd recommend that
they try giving these up.
Well, now you know more about it than I thought I did. <g>
Not being one of the intolerant, I was going by hearsay, apparently!
Bob ;-)
>Well, now you know more about it than I thought I did. <g>
There's nothing like google for creating instant experts :-)