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me...@pacbell.net

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Feb 9, 2004, 1:39:01 PM2/9/04
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If this is the improper forum, please direct me to the one which is most
appropriate.

I have had no problem with Delphi 6 Enterprise for quite a while.
However, when trying the demo of dbIsam ver. 4.02 I immediately encountered
an error.
I was told by Elevate that Delphi6 Update 2 was needed.
I downloaded the update but it can't start the installation wizard and does
not install.

When I run the download,
unpacking takes place
and it next indicates it is about to begin the wizard
but then there is a slight pause and nothing happens.
The installer shuts down, too.

I tried to run the download several times and I watched the tasks list.
When the wizard is supposed to be starting up there is a short delay
and then the task vanishes.

I even unzipped the download
and tried to run Setup from among the unzipped files.
The same behavior was seen.

I hunted around for information on this and all I found were
"Setup is unable to find an existing installation when applying Update Pack
2 for Delphi 6"
and
"Getting error -145 when trying to apply the Delphi 6 Update".
Each of these refers to missing or corrupt Registry values.
In my case the Registry values are present and they don't look corrupt.
The directory location is proper, and no reference is given for what the
other values ought to be.

What do you suggest I do?

Thank you for your guidance and suggestions.

M Raab

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Feb 11, 2004, 10:26:06 AM2/11/04
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Since there was no reply and since I could not go forward I decided to try
the unthinkable: I fully uninstalled Delphi, reinstalled, and tried to
apply D6_upd2_ent.exe after registering. IT DOES NOT INSTALL!

I did more than just uninstall Delphi. I tried to find all references to
Delphi and Borland in the Registry and I eliminated them. I also deleted
the Borland section in Program Files. I then installed from the original
CD, rebooted and registered. I was able to enter the Delphi IDE. All
looked good. But when I exited all programs, then tried to run the update,
the update was unpacked, there were a few initial steps indicating that an
update would take place, and then the process ended and no update occured.

So I am fully stuck, unable to go forward and unable to go backward.

Isn't there anything in this clean example which calls to your attention?
Isn't there any guidance you can provide or suggestions you can make?

Thank you!


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M Raab

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Feb 11, 2004, 11:04:22 AM2/11/04
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Here's a refinement of where things go wrong: the last thing I see on
screen is the advisory that InstallShield will take over for installation of
the update. InstallShield never pops up and the entire process terminates
without accomplishing anything. Does this help in any way?

In addition, I reviewed a prior post about old and new file dates being a
problem (see Daniel Zimmerman 1/26/04 in this forum) but this doesn't apply
here. It didn't apply with my prior installation and it certianly doesn't
apply now with my reinstallation.


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Charles Appel

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Feb 11, 2004, 2:36:57 PM2/11/04
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"M Raab" <auto...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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> Since there was no reply and since I could not go forward I decided to try
> the unthinkable: I fully uninstalled Delphi, reinstalled, and tried to
> apply D6_upd2_ent.exe after registering. IT DOES NOT INSTALL!
>
> I did more than just uninstall Delphi. I tried to find all references to
> Delphi and Borland in the Registry and I eliminated them. I also deleted
> the Borland section in Program Files. I then installed from the original
> CD, rebooted and registered. I was able to enter the Delphi IDE. All
> looked good. But when I exited all programs, then tried to run the
update,
> the update was unpacked, there were a few initial steps indicating that an
> update would take place, and then the process ended and no update occured.
>
> So I am fully stuck, unable to go forward and unable to go backward.
>
> Isn't there anything in this clean example which calls to your attention?
> Isn't there any guidance you can provide or suggestions you can make?

The first thing I would probably do, is get another copy
of the upgrade. It is possible that the copy you have is
in some way corrupted. (I don't know that this is the
problem - but since you have already tried uninstalling
and reinstalling Delphi, this would be the next step I
would take.)

Charles Appel

me...@pacbell.net

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Feb 11, 2004, 2:55:20 PM2/11/04
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Thank you for the suggestion. I am using my 2nd download of the update
already. When the update first failed it was my immediate reaction to get a
fresh copy of the update. The update does not give an error message or
otherwise demonstate signs of corruption. I am able to use WinZip to unzip
the download and run Setup within directly. If there was a curruption
during download I think WinZip or the original unpacking would give me an
error. I did not uninstall my Delphi installation lightly. I had 3rd party
tools installed and I'll have to go through the process of getting them all
in again. Even so, with a fresh installation (and prior to installing any
of the companion products) I still can't get the update to install. The
failure is during the setup of the InstallShield phase. InstallShield never
takes over and the procedure turns into automatic abandonment. I can't seem
to get a handhold on why it would act this way and don't know how to get
past this. Thank you for trying. Any other insights?

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Charles Appel

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Feb 11, 2004, 4:46:38 PM2/11/04
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<me...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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> Thank you for the suggestion. I am using my 2nd download of the update
> already. When the update first failed it was my immediate reaction to get
a
> fresh copy of the update. The update does not give an error message or
> otherwise demonstate signs of corruption. I am able to use WinZip to
unzip
> the download and run Setup within directly. If there was a curruption
> during download I think WinZip or the original unpacking would give me an
> error. I did not uninstall my Delphi installation lightly. I had 3rd
party
> tools installed and I'll have to go through the process of getting them
all
> in again. Even so, with a fresh installation (and prior to installing any
> of the companion products) I still can't get the update to install. The
> failure is during the setup of the InstallShield phase. InstallShield
never
> takes over and the procedure turns into automatic abandonment. I can't
seem
> to get a handhold on why it would act this way and don't know how to get
> past this. Thank you for trying. Any other insights?

Not any that I consider too likely, but:
1) Are you running a virus checker during the install?
2) Have you tried turning off all extraneous programs?
3) Do you have the latest updates for your version of Windows?
4) Have you tried installing the update before installing any
third party component packages?

Charles Appel


me...@pacbell.net

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Feb 11, 2004, 5:27:29 PM2/11/04
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> Not any that I consider too likely, but:
> 1) Are you running a virus checker during the install?

No, the virus protection software (McAfee) was set to not start on the boot
in which update was attempted.

> 2) Have you tried turning off all extraneous programs?

Nothing else of significance that I can identify is running.

> 3) Do you have the latest updates for your version of Windows?

I may be missing some critical updates from the last 90-days or so, but
Windows updates have been performed long past the date of the Delphi update.

> 4) Have you tried installing the update before installing any
> third party component packages?

As mentioned, I am now trying to update after a fresh installation of
Delphi.
I tried to update on the boot immediately after registration.
I have not yet installed any 3rd party products.

I try to not burden a forum like this.
However, this seems like a very unusual behavior and I don't know how to
navigate my way out.
It also stops me from using Delphi here and that's a major irritation.

Thanks for your concern.
Might there be any more ideas?

Stephen Blas (Borland)

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Feb 11, 2004, 7:53:30 PM2/11/04
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me...@pacbell.net wrote:
> "Getting error -145 when trying to apply the Delphi 6 Update".
> Each of these refers to missing or corrupt Registry values.
> In my case the Registry values are present and they don't look corrupt.
> The directory location is proper, and no reference is given for what the
> other values ought to be.
>
> What do you suggest I do?

Does this help at all?

http://bdn.borland.com/article/0,1410,28061,00.html

Regards,
Steve
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Charles Appel

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Feb 11, 2004, 8:46:08 PM2/11/04
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<me...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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> Thanks for your concern.
> Might there be any more ideas?

Afraid not. Sorry about that. :-(

Charles Appel

me...@pacbell.net

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Feb 11, 2004, 9:04:31 PM2/11/04
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Does anyone else have a suggestion?
Mel


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me...@pacbell.net

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Feb 12, 2004, 12:04:45 PM2/12/04
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Dear Steve,

You quoted my message where I described how I already read the linked
information and how it didn't help.

Mel


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me...@pacbell.net

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Feb 12, 2004, 12:13:15 PM2/12/04
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Michele Bevier, a very nice person, happened across my plea for help
and suggested that I try to install the update while logged in as
Administrator.

She said she encountered a similar situation even though her account had
full administrative privileges.

My account also had full administrative privileges in all that I described
here,

but when I logged in specifically as Administrator the installation went
through to completion.

Perhaps there is something in the Registry associated with the ID I was
using which got in the way of installation.

Logging in as Administrator may have given me a fresh start.

The alternative is that the update is keyed to the "Administrator" account,
which would seem awfully bizarre.

I thank everyone for their attempts, and Michele for being right on target
and for sharing.

I also appreciate that Borland makes these newsgroups available.

Mel

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Charles Appel

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Feb 12, 2004, 2:37:34 PM2/12/04
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<me...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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> Michele Bevier, a very nice person, happened across my plea for help
> and suggested that I try to install the update while logged in as
> Administrator.

Excellent. I'm glad someone had the answer.

Charles Appel


dk_sz

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Feb 28, 2004, 8:43:58 PM2/28/04
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> Isn't there anything in this clean example which calls to your attention?

Well, I found that (in my experience and conclusions) at least Delphi6
Update 2 suffers from same
error as the BDE (it thinks it has run out of space if hitting a 4 gig
boundary):

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=da&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&threadm=u5qh20t1m6aekpb9tmsbhjtblk7fcj4cg3%404ax.com&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fq%3DBDE%2Bbug%2Bqc%26hl%3Dda%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26selm%3Du5qh20t1m6aekpb9tmsbhjtblk7fcj4cg3%25404ax.com%26rnum%3D1

<http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=da&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&threadm=u5qh20t
1m6aekpb9tmsbhjtblk7fcj4cg3%404ax.com&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fq%3DBDE%2Bbug%2B
qc%26hl%3Dda%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26selm%3Du5qh20t1m6aekpb9tmsb
hjtblk7fcj4cg3%25404ax.com%26rnum%3D1>

best regards
Thomas


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