CnPack - IDE Wizard
Iwalewa
best IDE productivity tool in its class that I have seen so far. The direct
website is located here: http://www.cnpack.org/.
Iwalewa.
Ivan Pastine
but after playing with it for 2 hours now I'm hooked.
Stephane Wierzbicki
I have right now both GExperts and cnPack working together.
At a glance cnPack gives more advanced settings than Gexperts.
This is a really nice expert ! Go on guys :)
<Jim McKay> a écrit dans le message de news:
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> Ed Blanchard said...
>
>>Jim McKay wrote:
>>
>>> Ivan Pastine said...
>>>
>>> > Thanks, this is great! Its a little scary to install an ide
>>> > enhancement, but after playing with it for 2 hours now I'm
>>>hooked.
>>> 2nd'ed!!!
>>
>>
>>SAVE YOUR WORK!!!
>>
>>I just installed it this afternoon, added a simple form and a couple
>>of methods. Went to mainform and attempted to "add unit" - Delphi
>>disappeared. No AVs - just poof and no Delphi...
>>
>>Too bad, I already found a few things I really liked...
>
> I worked w/it installed all afternoon... only problem was
> initial loss of tabbed component pallete in GExperts: resetting
> GExp's IDE settings fixed it. Otherwise, no problems!!!
>
> --
> Regards:
> Jim McKay
>
> "My theory of evolution is that Darwin was adopted."
> -- Steven Wright
>
> Posted with XanaNews: Ver: 1.17.3.1
Craig Clemans
>
> I just installed it this afternoon, added a simple form and a couple
> of methods. Went to mainform and attempted to "add unit" - Delphi
> disappeared. No AVs - just poof and no Delphi...
That's a Delphi problem. See that every once in a while. Luckily
that's all I ever see it. <g>
Craig
Delphi Source Code for Accounting Systems
www.ledgeraccounting.com
Gerrit Beuze
They are distributing illegal cracked software versions of ModelMaker
and ModelMaker Code Explorer on another page of their web-site.
For those that need proof: please contact me by email as I do not want
to want to make those links in public - as you can image.
Now it's up to you if you want to sponsor software pirates or not.
But IMO CnPack is the type of people that should be inprisoned for violating
legal copyrights & distributing cracked software!
Gerrit Beuze
ModelMaker Tools
Iwalewa
> There's something interesting about CnPack:
>
> They are distributing illegal cracked software versions of ModelMaker
> and ModelMaker Code Explorer on another page of their web-site.
Is this on the .org site?
>
> For those that need proof: please contact me by email as I do not want
> to want to make those links in public - as you can image.
>
I am not interested in a link, but interested in how you reach your
conclusion.
Thanks,
Iwalewa.
Iwalewa
>
> SAVE YOUR WORK!!!
>
> I just installed it this afternoon, added a simple form and a couple of
> methods. Went to mainform and attempted to "add unit" - Delphi
> disappeared. No AVs - just *poof* and no Delphi...
I have installed with GExpert, ModelMaker 6 and CodeFactor with no problem.
The problem you described usually occur when you have a corrupted file. The
first time it happened to me, it was a corrupted datamodule.
Iwalewa.
Gerrit Beuze
http://ftp.cnpack.org/blablablabla
containing lots of cracked MMTools software?
I downloaded the zips from their server and they certainly are cracked.
Some of these cracks had been around fro some time:
ModelMaker Code Explorer 1.23 (which was shipped to beta testers only, how ironic;-(
but also a more recent ModelMaker 7.25 crack.
Both cracks were wrapped up by FCN - which is what their replaced installer says - whatever that FCN be.
Gerrit Beuze
ModelMaker Tools
Iwalewa
Gerrit Beuze
what was on their site a few hours ago:
http://modelmakertools.com/piracy/ftpcnpack1.gif
http://modelmakertools.com/piracy/ftpcnpack2.gif
http://modelmakertools.com/piracy/ftpcnpack3.gif
The links are dead now - of course ....
Gerrit Beuze
ModelMaker Tools
> > How about an ftp site something like
> >
> > http://ftp.cnpack.org/blablablabla
> >
> > containing lots of cracked MMTools software?
> > I downloaded the zips from their server and they certainly are
> > cracked. Some of these cracks had been around fro some time:
> > ModelMaker Code Explorer 1.23 (which was shipped to beta testers
> > only, how ironic;-( but also a more recent ModelMaker 7.25 crack.
> >
>
> Well I guess that's enough for me... It's too bad - except for Delphi
> going "poof" the one time this looked like a nice tool - but I'm
> sticking with GExperts unless the ftp site disappears and a reasonable
> explanation comes forward.
>
> Cheers,
> EdB
Robert Parrish
Delphi to disappear anytime I add code to the Forms-Onshow event. I haven't
found the cause yet.
Bob Parrish
"Craig Clemans" <info*remove*@ledgeraccounting.com> wrote in message
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Jason Southwell
> They just took their ftp site down, but here are the images that show
> what was on their site a few hours ago:
>
> http://modelmakertools.com/piracy/ftpcnpack1.gif
> http://modelmakertools.com/piracy/ftpcnpack2.gif
> http://modelmakertools.com/piracy/ftpcnpack3.gif
>
> The links are dead now - of course ....
I find it interesting that you jump to the "They are pirates"
conclusion. There are many reasons why they may have posted the
software to an FTP site. Perhaps the beta was intended to be used
internally in the company and the site was inadvertanly left open to
the public.
Mistakes happen. That does not mean that they are intentionally
breaking the law.
That being said, it is certainly possible that it was intentional, but
come on. Give them a chance to explain themselves.
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Gerrit Beuze
> I find it interesting that you jump to the "They are pirates"
> conclusion. There are many reasons why they may have posted the
> software to an FTP site. Perhaps the beta was intended to be used
> internally in the company and the site was inadvertanly left open to
> the public.
No: this is not just a beta: this is a cracked beta that has the
license protection scheme removed after which is was re-wrapped
using a different (Wise) installer.
Similar for the ModelMaker 7.x on their site.
If you have a look at
http://modelmakertools.com/piracy/ftpcnpack2.gif
You'll see "TestComplete303_Crac... (truncated)
which is a crack for Automated QA Test Complete v3.03.
> Mistakes happen. That does not mean that they are intentionally
> breaking the law.
> That being said, it is certainly possible that it was intentional, but
> come on. Give them a chance to explain themselves.
I'm listening...
But hey have all the evidence against them.
Gerrit Beuze
ModelMaker Tools
Charles Line
> Mistakes happen. That does not mean that they are intentionally
> breaking the law.
Fancy a game of high stakes poker?
Jens Fudickar
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Jason Southwell
> > breaking the law.
>
> Fancy a game of high stakes poker?
Believe it or not, that is actually my game...
CnPack Team
Please accept out sincerely aplogy for the unauthorized copy of MMTools
put on the site of CnPack.
As developpers of CnPack, we have full respectness for the intellectual
property of others and would not tolerate any action which breaks copyright
law. According to our examination, one of CnPack's users came across that
copy and uploaded it to CnPack's FTP server, which is public also to some
users besides the development team. We would definetely have removed it, as
well as any other unauthorized copy, if we were aware of its existence, and
we can assure you that copy has never been used by us for any commercial
purpose.
We again sincerely apologize for our oversight of the adimistration. Now
both the website and FTP server of CnPack are closed for a full examination,
and we will see to that situation like this will not take place again.
Please let us know if you have any other concern or question.
Sincerely yours
CnPack Development Team
"Gerrit Beuze" <gerrit[at]modelmaker[dot]demon[dot]nl> wrote:
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Vincent Parrett (VSoft Technologies)
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> I find it interesting that you jump to the "They are pirates"
> conclusion. There are many reasons why they may have posted the
> software to an FTP site.
Interesting angle, however I don't recall ever having distributed
FinalBuilder as a rar file, and as it happens that particular version was
the most widely cracked version of FinalBuilder.
I'd certainly like to see an explaination from these people why they were
hosting cracked software on their servers.
--
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VSoft Technologies
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Jason Southwell
> were hosting cracked software on their servers.
Like I said, I was just interested in finding out the explanation
before jumping all over them.
JED
> > I'd certainly like to see an explaination from these people why they
> > were hosting cracked software on their servers.
>
> Like I said, I was just interested in finding out the explanation
> before jumping all over them.
Looking at the dates of the files from the images Gerrit posted help me
to form a conclusion.
Junior/RO
> According to our examination, one of CnPack's users came across that
> copy and uploaded it to CnPack's FTP server
hehe
--
- Então você é o Junior/RO?
- É! Alguém tem que ser.
Jan Ferguson
> As developpers of CnPack, we have full respectness for the
> intellectual property of others and would not tolerate any action
> which breaks copyright law.
Too little...too late...
> According to our examination, one of
> CnPack's users came across that copy and uploaded it to CnPack's FTP
> server, which is public also to some users besides the development
> team.
I could *possibly* see one program being uploaded, but all of them? Why
would they do that?
> We would definetely have removed it, as well as any other
> unauthorized copy, if we were aware of its existence, and we can
> assure you that copy has never been used by us for any commercial
> purpose.
Maybe it was never used for commercial purposes but what about personal
purposes? Still is piracy!
> Please let us know if you have any other concern or question.
No concerns...I personally just won't ever purchase any of your
products. You took your site(s) off-line but that doesn't tell any of
us whether or not you still have the illegal software on your system
and/or are using it personally. I'm sorry but your explanation just
doesn't hold water for me.
Hannes Danzl[NDD]
> products. You took your site(s) off-line but that doesn't tell any of
> us whether or not you still have the illegal software on your system
> and/or are using it personally. I'm sorry but your explanation just
> doesn't hold water for me.
Come on, they gave an excuse, they apologized, give them a chance.
Everyone makes mistakes from time to time - the intelligent learn out
of it
--
Hannes Danzl [NexusDB Developer]
Newsgroup archive at http://www.tamaracka.com/search.htm
Jan Ferguson
> > No concerns...I personally just won't ever purchase any of your
> > products. You took your site(s) off-line but that doesn't tell any
> > of us whether or not you still have the illegal software on your
> > system and/or are using it personally. I'm sorry but your
> > explanation just doesn't hold water for me.
>
> Come on, they gave an excuse, they apologized, give them a chance.
> Everyone makes mistakes from time to time - the intelligent learn out
> of it
Hannes,
Normally I would agree with you but this case appears different. I
believe you hit the nail on the head when you stated they offered an
"excuse", and it did not appear to be a plausible one. Too many
unanswered variables for my liking.
Yes...they apologized for the unauthorized copy of MMTools but what
about the beta copy of FinalBuilder? While that might be splitting
hairs, I am offering my opinions as are others here. Only time will
tell. However, even though they already investigated it and knows who
did it, they still took down their site and are offereing no other
explanations to questions or comments NG readers are offering. I
personally can't see why they would need to take down their site to
lock the FTP site (a very simple thing to do) but then, that's just me.
I personally would be more interested in "damage control" than in
pulling the plug which might make me look more guilty.
Just my 2 cents worth.
TJC Support
news:4266...@newsgroups.borland.com...
>
> OTOH, how many people actually saw this thread, and how long will it
> take for everyone to forget about it?
Forget about what? :^)
Van
John E. Wilfong
> I personally just won't ever purchase any of your
> products.
I thought their tool was free. This isn't an excuse for piracy but they were also not offering
anything that would benefit them but could benefit the community. They weren't trying to profit off
of anything.
Looks like cnPacks response to this incident was quick and decisive. I vote to give them a chance
but would like to hear Gerrits' thoughts on the outcome of it all since his tools were listed and
he brought it to the groups attention.
--
-john
Gerrit Beuze
> I thought their tool was free.
They have a free tool but also sell other tools.
> This isn't an excuse for piracy but they were also not offering
> anything that would benefit them but could benefit the community. They weren't trying to profit off
> of anything.
It's a bit more complicated than that - but I cannot comment on that right now.
> Looks like cnPacks response to this incident was quick and decisive.
Not IMO: I would have believed a lot of exuses, but not this one " a customer put it there"
Yes, sure;-) It was a very well organized ftp site. I simply do not believe "some else did it"
I would have believed them if they had said something like:
"oops this was an error. Yes, we use cracked software but it was never our intend to distribute it,
it was on the server only for internal use, but the server should not have been publically accessible"
As t'is quite a different case if someone is using cracked software for own use or also distributing it.
> but would like to hear Gerrits' thoughts on the outcome of it all since his tools were listed and
> he brought it to the groups attention.
I'm not satisfied with the current explanation.
Gerrit Beuze
ModelMaker Tools
Ron C.
> products.
They dont actually charge for their software.
Jan Ferguson
For some of their software, they do.
passos
Come on, where is it? They does not sell any business software. All of their developer is just for fun or contribute.
passos
"Gerrit Beuze" <gerrit[at]modelmaker[dot]demon[dot]nl> wrote:
>
>> I thought their tool was free.
>
>They have a free tool but also sell other tools.
CnPack's everything is free and opensource. Nothing for sell.
>Not IMO: I would have believed a lot of exuses, but not this one " a customer put it there"
>Yes, sure;-) It was a very well organized ftp site. I simply do not believe "some else did it"
You can get the ftp link from maillist and anothers can do it also. CnPack's ftp is public in internal developer group and user group. Anyone can submit the maillist if his application which submit to join the user group is passed. The qualification for join the group is very simple. If you want to do something for cnpack and you'll be allowed. Now the cnpack have hundreds of user the the administrator is remiss of manage. They have job to do in company and they have very hard press in job. IMO, the scrimshank can be understanding and I believe they would not do it again. I think the ftp's access right will be controled in strict rule.
passos
CnPack Developer
John E. Wilfong
> Not IMO: I would have believed a lot of exuses, but not this one " a customer put it there"
> Yes, sure;-) It was a very well organized ftp site. I simply do not believe "some else did it"
I read the message differently than you did. They said 'user' put it there. My thinking was that
thier 'users' are developers that donate thier time in working on this project. A developer would
certainly have the expertise to be well organized. At least I would hope so. Most customers do not
poke around with FTP. I don't know how many developers they have but the actions of this one (or
more) 'contributor' certainly stained the start up reputation of cnPack.
>
> I'm not satisfied with the current explanation.
>
> Gerrit Beuze
> ModelMaker Tools
Thank you for your comments. Since you are the damaged party here I would like to know when this
'settles', if at all. I would like to look at the cnPack tools but will reframe from doing so.
They appear to be wanting to correct this problem. I hope this includes appeasing you with whatever
*you* feel is right.
--
-john
Matthew Jones
> poke around with FTP.
One of the things on the internet communities I hang out in is that you
shouldn't leave an open FTP server that can read and write, or you will
get warez and other undesirable files appearing. So it isn't unheard of
that an FTP server be hijacked. Only the logs would show this, and most
open FTP servers are set up by people who don't know what logs are.
/Matthew Jones/
Jan Ferguson
Kind of a moot point since their site is down.
passos
Believe or not, as a developer in this team, I almost forget
the ftp link address since I visit it one year bofore. I only
visit the cvs server per-week in normal situation.
passos
passos
CnPack just have only one formal project and that is CnWizards. Maybe it can be proved by the maillist history or something else. In fact, I don't know how to prove something doesn't exists.
Passos
Torry
the
> best IDE productivity tool in its class that I have seen so far. The
direct
> website is located here: http://www.cnpack.org/.
Can you be more detailed?
I just checked all of Torry's and found nothing - however, I can see all.
If you will find the time to send the separate e-mail to my e-mail address
it will be nice.
So, where and when I'd publish the pirate product at Torry's?
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Darryl
"Ed Blanchard" <edw...@NONOsgci.com> wrote in message
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> Actually, I *can* believe it... And certainly the idea that an ftp site
> might be hijacked sure isn't hard to believe...
>
> I guess when all is said and done, all we know is files were there -
> not WHO put them there. In Canada we have this silly notion of
> "innocent until proven guilty" - and given the lack of proof that
> CnPack are guitly of more than sloppy administration, I guess a second
> chance may actually be in order here...
>
> Cheers,
> EdB
Ron C.
> "innocent until proven guilty" -
We used to have that in Aus too .... now we get other
countries to do our law enforcement for us ... I have a solution.
Stuff their ftp server full of grass and send it to Bali :)
cheers
Iwalewa
Hi Maxim,
>
> So, where and when I'd publish the pirate product at Torry's?
>
product (at least nobody made that claim yet). This is a summary of events:
1. CnPack was released on Torry on or about 4/14/05. Published website was
http://www.cnpack.org
2. Pirated softwares (i.e. ModelMaker, MMX) was found on
http://ftp.cnpack.org.
(Note: This is not on their website as I did not see any other product
beside CnPacks on their website).
3. Author(s) of CnPack promptly apologized and claimed the pirated softwares
were put on their ftp by unidentified person(s) or contributor(s) to CnPack
project.
4. Author(s) of CnPack shut down their ftp and website for further
investigations.
Why are you not finding CnPack on Torrys? No idea.
Thanks,
Iwalewa
Gerrit Beuze
> might be hijacked sure isn't hard to believe...
All settled then, a second chance it is.
Gerrit Beuze
ModelMaker Tools
willy
Why Bali ?
I Think in Bali is all already full with Aussie :=)...
try other country...
ciaoo willy
Jim Cooper
> Why Bali ?
A reference to recent news story about a gang of Australian drug
smugglers caught in Bali. Police in both Australia and Indonesia worked
on the case, but there has been criticism at home that they arranged for
the smugglers to be arrested in Indonesia instead of Australia, since
Indonesia has the death penalty for this offense (and Australia doesn't
have it at all).
Cheers,
Jim Cooper
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