InfoPower vs. DevExpress
InfoPath, Inc
I need to decide about a DB aware grid package and the 2 products that seem
to be feature rich are InfoPower and DevExpress Express QuantumGrid.
Did anyone have a chance to compare them and is willing to share his
thoughts?
Thanks,
Ron.
Jim Fitzgerald
says...
> I need to decide about a DB aware grid package and the 2 products that seem
> to be feature rich are InfoPower and DevExpress Express QuantumGrid.
>
IMO, the Express QuantumGrid is much better.
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JimF at Chem-Master dot Com
Peter
We used InfoPower and we are using the DevExpress QuantumGrid now.
Using InfoPower was the biggest mistake we ever made. It took us a while too
to get rid of it.
It has a large 'footprint', a lot of bugs and no real advantages.
The QuantumGrid however, is amazing. It offers all the functionalities you
want from a Grid and more...
Not less important is the support. We've had some 'problems' with both
Infopower components and some Developer Express Components. The response we
got from InfoPower was not usefull. It was something like. ....'sorry but
there nothing we can do for you' while the response from Developer Express
was fast and usefull. Some of our problems where fixed, for other problems
they thought of decent work-arounds.
Greetings,
Peter.
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> Hi,
>
> I need to decide about a DB aware grid package and the 2 products that
seem
> to be feature rich are InfoPower and DevExpress Express QuantumGrid.
>
Marc
project for the delphi or builder which ever one I was using with an example
of how to do what I wanted.
Express grid was a snap to learn and there table memory component that comes
with it is great to!
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Tim Sullivan
not compare to the ExpressGrid (TExpressSwissArmyGrid? :-) )...
A shortlist of the things the ExpressGrid has in it that InfoPower's does
not:
- Sorting (Asc/Dec, on multiple fields) without indexes
- Grouping (hard to explain, but very powerful)
- Enduser customization
All these are done with a couple of property settings or a single method
call. In order to make the grid super-flexible, they rewrote it from
scratch, so it isn't based on the DBGrid at all.
I heartily recommend it, unless you're writing a competing product to mine,
in which case use InfoPower, it's the best. :-)
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Mike Orriss (TeamB)
> Infopower all the way.
>
I'm curious - have you actually tried DevExpress, bearing in mind the
thread title?
The reason for asking is that I cannot believe the decision can be so
one-sided. The products share much common functionality but each does have
its own strengths.
Mike Orriss (TeamB)
(Unless stated otherwise, my replies relate to Delphi 4.03/5.00)
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A Vasitch
is absoultely true, it is awesome. The only thing I will say is that if you
have lots of records which include many calculations you will find because
ExpressGrids loads the whole database, it can get quite slow when
initializing.
Infopower is useful because it provides a lot more than just a grid (which I
no longer use). I have found the other Infopower controls very good and
they really give that extra edge to our products, although as someone
mentioned there are one or two bugs, but I have managed to work around them
quite easily.
I n summary I love both products
Alex
Craig van Nieuwkerk
then unable to sort, group etc.
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Bernd Maierhofer
>to be feature rich are InfoPower and DevExpress Express QuantumGrid.
>
>Did anyone have a chance to compare them and is willing to share his
>thoughts?
We own both and definitly prefer DevEx - even more since the last update to
QuantumGrid. Get trials of both and compare.
dato Denkwerkzeuge - Bernd Maierhofer
Corneliusgasse 4/5
A-1060 Wien , Austria
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InfoPath, Inc
Thanks for the information - I am not writing something that competes with
your product so I guess I got your blessing for using ExpressGrid :-)
Thanks,
Ron.
"Tim Sullivan" <t...@NO.SPAM.FOR.ME.uil.net> wrote in message
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> The InfoPower grid is basically the TDBGrid with a some additions. This
does
> not compare to the ExpressGrid (TExpressSwissArmyGrid? :-) )...
>
> A shortlist of the things the ExpressGrid has in it that InfoPower's does
> not:
> - Sorting (Asc/Dec, on multiple fields) without indexes
> - Grouping (hard to explain, but very powerful)
> - Enduser customization
>
> All these are done with a couple of property settings or a single method
> call. In order to make the grid super-flexible, they rewrote it from
> scratch, so it isn't based on the DBGrid at all.
>
> I heartily recommend it, unless you're writing a competing product to
mine,
> in which case use InfoPower, it's the best. :-)
>
> --
> Tim Sullivan
> Unlimited Intelligence Limited
> Dimethylaminoethanol for your software
> http://www.uil.net
>
> InfoPath, Inc <info...@transport.com> wrote in message
> news:8hlta6$61...@bornews.borland.com...
> > Hi,
> >
> > I need to decide about a DB aware grid package and the 2 products that
> seem
> > to be feature rich are InfoPower and DevExpress Express QuantumGrid.
> >
> > Did anyone have a chance to compare them and is willing to share his
> > thoughts?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ron.
> >
> >
>
>
tmiller
Delphi. Support is average. I have also played with DevExpress and must say
the product is excellent and so was there support. I returned the product and
got a
prompted refund, so don't worry about buying and trying.
I didn't use DevExpress because its strength lies in displaying data, much
like a report writer. If that is what you are looking for DevExpress is
the product. If you are looking for a more traditional grid for data
entry then TopGrid is by far the best grid. The support is just as good
as DevExpress (sending code examples, etc.). The product only cost $99
and includes source. If you need both capabilities in separate places buy both.
"InfoPath, Inc" wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I need to decide about a DB aware grid package and the 2 products that seem
> to be feature rich are InfoPower and DevExpress Express QuantumGrid.
>
> Did anyone have a chance to compare them and is willing to share his
> thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
> Ron.
--
Thomas Miller
Delphi Client/Server Certified Developer
BSS Accounting & Distribution Software
BSS Enterprise Accounting FrameWork
Mike Orriss (TeamB)
> If that is what you are looking for DevExpress is
> the product. If you are looking for a more traditional grid for data
> entry then TopGrid is by far the best grid.
>
I'm curious. How does TopGrid beat the QuantumGrid for data entry?
(I have to say that this is an idle query because I dislike using grids
for data input, much preferring to display bespoke forms).
VM Comutec
are
> then unable to sort, group etc.
on the ADO level. Grouping - if your grid is not 1100% cached
(LoadAllRecords = False) and you do group on a column, either by dragging
one a group panel or doing it through code - it will load records
autmatically, besides, for grouping you have to go through the whole
recordset anyway :)
With regards to DevEx vs Infopower, we use DX Bars and Grid, and individual
controls (combos, edits etc.) from Infopower. That has proven to be a best
approach.
Max
tmiller
into something we wanted to control we could. For instance, in
our accounting package, we maintain a 10 character account
number. If the user picks 4 characters, we only display four and
maintain the other 6 characters as front filled zeros. Top Grid was
the only grid that would handle this. The combo box is the most powerful
I have seen, period. It reminds me of (dare I say it) Power Builder's Drop Down
List Box. It was configurable every which way. So is this one. I
wish they would break it out into its own component (it's only available
in the grid). It seamless goes into edit mode. Most grids, you have to
click on the cell or some other magic for it to go into edit. Top Grid just
goes into edit mode like you where using a spread sheet. You know the
funny white space you get at the bottom of the grid because there
isn't enough room to show a whole row. Top Grid will show a half row.
I don't like grid input either, but some accountant types prefer it so we
offer the option.
"Mike Orriss (TeamB)" wrote:
--
Mike Orriss (TeamB)
> This was before the Quantum Grid was available.
>
Ah!
DECK
are concerned. But recently we slam into a wall with DevEx grids.
We're developing multi langguage applications and we need to set
bidimode from lefttoright or rigttoleft like Arabic langguages. DevEx
doesn't have bidimode property while Infopowr has. While though
infopower can flip the grid, it cannot display the numbers in proper
locales which Arabic language uses. And one more thing, Infopower
lookups and drop down lists doesn't flip either.
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Ghulam haider
Any way we tried we couldn't get both info power and devX to show the Arabic
digits and arabic date format correctly. As fas as I could see the normal
Delphi components pick up their number format, digits symbols etc from the
windows locale setting but not the infopower and devX. They could not
display Arabic and Latin Script side by side correctly. The Info power
grid/combo controls does not seem to honour the right to left reading order
correctly. The devX grid - it does not have bidi mode property at all which
makes it practically useless in Arabic countries where the reading order is
from right to left and you type from right to left.
It is a shame really as the devX people put so much care and thought to
develop their product but totally left out international settings making the
grid practically useless in Arabic speaking countries where you have to show
both Arabic/Latin scripts side by side.
So In our case we decided to use plain old Delphi -5 components sacrificing
some fancy user interface features and dare I say it is working very well.
So my advise is if you have to market somewhere where you have to show both
left to right & right to left scripts stick with plain delphi components. It
will save you much grief in the long run (until these tow vendors come up
with more practical solutions).
Just my two cents worth.
GH