D7 DataSnap License?

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Vikram Kulkarni

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Jul 31, 2002, 6:14:37 PM7/31/02
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I just read in one of the posts below that there will be no deployment
license fees required for Datasnap with D7 Enterprise (stating that JK
announced it at BorCon Sydney).

Is this True? Can anybody confirm this??
Or I guess NDA will force people to remain tight-lipped even if they are in
a position to confirm this?

I am asking this since we are in the final stages of development of a
DataSnap application. While we have decided to pass on the Datasnap
licensing cost to our customers in case of medium to large installations (a
smaller part of our business and, bcos they can afford it), we are still in
a dilemma with regards to our small-medium customers (who will be the bulk
of our business) for whom a $300 datasnap license could cost a lot.
So we were contemplating on using some other 3rd part solutions (like ASATA
etc) and totally eliminate DataSnap from our project.
However if the above news is True then we would be happy to upgrade to D7
and stay with DataSnap!

Thanks,
Vikram


Nick Hodges (TeamB)

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Jul 31, 2002, 7:30:22 PM7/31/02
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On Wed, 31 Jul 2002 15:14:37 -0700, "Vikram Kulkarni"
<vik...@captools.com> wrote:

>Is this True? Can anybody confirm this??

It is true for D7 Enterprise owners, yes.


Nick Hodges
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Vikram Kulkarni

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Jul 31, 2002, 8:51:18 PM7/31/02
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Way to go!
Thanks Nick.

Vikram

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John Kaster (Borland)

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Jul 31, 2002, 10:05:43 PM7/31/02
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Vikram Kulkarni wrote:

> I just read in one of the posts below that there will be no deployment
> license fees required for Datasnap with D7 Enterprise (stating that JK
> announced it at BorCon Sydney).

Correct. The purchase price of Delphi 7 Enterprise will include an unlimited
deployment license for DataSnap servers.

The licensing change also explicitely allows Delphi 7 Pro users to use
ClientDatasets as a local database. You can distribute applications that use
"briefcase" ClientDataset files to multiple machines without having to pay for
a deployment license, as long as that data is only stored locally and does not
get resolved back to the persistent store on another machine.

If a Pro user decides he or she wants to create an application using a
DataSnap server, they simply need to purchase an Enterprise version. Everyone
who works on developing the DataSnap server application must have a legal copy
of Enterprise (or above).

I am currently drafting a new article for BDN about the new DataSnap licensing
that will go into more detail, but this information should be sufficient to
answer the question.

> However if the above news is True then we would be happy to upgrade to D7
> and stay with DataSnap!

Enjoy.

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Michael Silver

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Jul 31, 2002, 11:18:33 PM7/31/02
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Great idea!!

...Michael...

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Luk Vermeulen

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Aug 1, 2002, 12:44:18 AM8/1/02
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"John Kaster (Borland)" wrote:
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> The purchase price of Delphi 7 Enterprise
> will include an unlimited deployment license
> for DataSnap servers.

That's great news.

-Luk-

John Kaster (Borland)

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Aug 1, 2002, 3:02:14 AM8/1/02
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Luk Vermeulen wrote:
> That's great news.

I agree. Product Management is kicking butt w/ D7. More good news to come.

Vikram Kulkarni

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Aug 1, 2002, 3:45:10 AM8/1/02
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> Correct. The purchase price of Delphi 7 Enterprise will include an
unlimited
> deployment license for DataSnap servers.

Straight from the horse's mouth!

Thanks,
Vikram


Vikram Kulkarni

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Aug 1, 2002, 3:42:58 AM8/1/02
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> Correct. The purchase price of Delphi 7 Enterprise will include an
unlimited
> deployment license for DataSnap servers.

Straight from the horse's mouth!

Thanks,
Vikram


John Kaster (Borland)

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Aug 1, 2002, 3:53:35 AM8/1/02
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Vikram Kulkarni wrote:
> Straight from the horse's mouth!

I've been called worse. Even twice. <g>

Andres Allkivi

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Aug 1, 2002, 4:54:46 AM8/1/02
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jka...@borland.com (John Kaster (Borland)) wrote in
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>Correct. The purchase price of Delphi 7 Enterprise will include an
>unlimited deployment license for DataSnap servers.

What about Kylix 3? Thanks.

Andres

Roberto Icardi (Modasystem)

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Aug 1, 2002, 4:44:28 AM8/1/02
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> Correct. The purchase price of Delphi 7 Enterprise will include an
unlimited
> deployment license for DataSnap servers.
>


Wow ! Finally ! Great news !!!!


Jim Cooper

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Aug 1, 2002, 4:51:59 AM8/1/02
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> I've been called worse.

Still part of the horse, though? <g>

It's a good idea. I say this because I seem to recall having it, a
little while back :-)

Cheers,
Jim Cooper

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Anders Ohlsson (Borland)

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Aug 1, 2002, 11:34:40 AM8/1/02
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> Wow K3 will be included with D7 this is realy cood news

That's an interesting interpretation of what Dave said... I believe he meant something
else, given the context... But, it works both ways... ;-)

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Dave Nottage (TeamB)

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Aug 1, 2002, 10:53:47 AM8/1/02
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"Andres Allkivi" wrote:
> >Correct. The purchase price of Delphi 7 Enterprise will include an
> >unlimited deployment license for DataSnap servers.
>
> What about Kylix 3? Thanks.

Yes, Kylix 3 included.

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Christian Charette

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Aug 1, 2002, 11:18:12 AM8/1/02
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Wow K3 will be included with D7 this is realy cood news

Christian

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Dave Nottage (TeamB)

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Aug 1, 2002, 11:32:21 AM8/1/02
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"Christian Charette" wrote:
> Wow K3 will be included with D7 this is realy cood news

I did not say that. Kylix 3 is included in the new terms of the DataSnap
licensing.

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Radek Jedrasiak

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Aug 1, 2002, 1:17:49 PM8/1/02
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"Anders Ohlsson (Borland)" <aohl...@borland.com> wrote in message news:3D495510...@borland.com...

> > Wow K3 will be included with D7 this is realy cood news
>
> That's an interesting interpretation of what Dave said... I believe he meant something
> else, given the context... But, it works both ways... ;-)

Really ?!?!

Now I'm really, really, really curious about the "more good stuff" to come,
J. Kaster promised ....

Thumbs up for the new DataSnap license ....

Cheerio
Radek


Joe Real

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Aug 1, 2002, 2:46:25 PM8/1/02
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In article <3D48DCF6...@borland.com>, jka...@borland.com says...

|I agree. Product Management is kicking butt w/ D7. More good news to come.


John, please make sure that the royalty-free unlimited server deployment with the D7
enterprise SHOULD BE ONE OF THE HIGHLIGHTS IN ALL OF YOUR MARKETING.

Anders Ohlsson (Borland)

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Aug 1, 2002, 2:23:03 PM8/1/02
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> John, please make sure that the royalty-free unlimited server deployment with the D7
> enterprise SHOULD BE ONE OF THE HIGHLIGHTS IN ALL OF YOUR MARKETING.

'tis.

Andreas Prucha

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Aug 1, 2002, 8:19:33 PM8/1/02
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Joe Real <SpamNoOn...@avso.com> wrote in
news:MPG.17b321dc6...@newsgroups.borland.com:

> John, please make sure that the royalty-free unlimited server
> deployment with the D7 enterprise SHOULD BE ONE OF THE HIGHLIGHTS IN
> ALL OF YOUR MARKETING.

ACK. This is really /great/ news.

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