Borland CTO Blake Stone resigns
Erich Stahler
reason given, will not be replaced, so says the Dow Jones news service.
Seems to be some real house cleaning going on at Borland lately,
Ray Andrews
news:400d...@newsgroups.borland.com...
er. um. about that previous thread about Fred at HugeCompany ...
Dave Jewell
DOW JONES NEWSWIRES
WASHINGTON -- Borland Software Corp. (BORL) said Tuesday that Blake Stone
will step down as the company's chief technical officer Feb. 6, according to
a Form 8-K filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
The software development product company also said Roger Barney will resign
as its chief administrative officer Jan. 31
The filing didn't provide a reason for Stone's resignation but said that
Barney is resigning to spend more time with his family and return to a
career in consulting.
Borland Software said it has no immediate plans to replace Barney or Stone.
-By Gee L. Lee; Dow Jones Newswires; 202-862-1346
Updated January 20, 2004 6:22 a.m.
Eric Grange
Any insider hint on what the people that left were supportive of
(or opposed against) would indeed be welcome.
Eric
John Wester [Group W]
says...
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Sakis
Andy Mackie
news:400d...@newsgroups.borland.com...
> It looks that ship is shinking. Too bad :-(
Companies reorganize all the time. What's bad about that ?
Andy Mackie.
Kevin
> Borland Chief Technology officer Blake Stone resigns effective Feb. 6, no
> reason given,
I wonder if this is a case of placing a developer in a position they
don't want to be in? From what I gather Blake Stone was a brilliant
developer. That was what he really enjoyed doing- pure speculation on
my part. He was promoted rapidly within Borland because of his
accomplishments. As CTO he probably didn't get to do much of what he
really enjoyed. And that's why he is now leaving? Any thoughts??
It'll be interested to see where he ends up...
Cheers,
Kevin.
Kevin
> Companies reorganize all the time. What's bad about that ?
>
> Andy Mackie.
Andy, just a tip on how this newsgroup's logic works:
* If top Borland employees leave then the ship is sinking.
* If the same thing happens at Microsoft, Oracle, IBM etc. then
everything's fine...
Do people have to spend their lives working for one company?? Give me a
break...
Cheers,
Kevin.
Kevin
> * If the same thing happens at Microsoft, Oracle, IBM etc. then
> everything's fine...
I should add that the top XBox guy recently left Microsoft. OH NO...
the XBOX is doomed!!!! ;-)
marc hoffman
;-)
Eric Grange
> break...
"Borland Software said it has no immediate plans to replace Barney or Stone."
This hints it's not part of a normal personnel rotation,
but either a resignation that caught them with their pants
down, or a "reorganization".
Eric
Ian Kirk
news:400d...@newsgroups.borland.com...
> It looks that ship is shinking. Too bad :-(
Worse than that; knock on effects from Borland's problems may well
destabilise the rest of the US economy.
That'll bring the faltering EU recovery down with it, and from there the
complete collapse of the global economy's the unavoidable next step.
World-wide stagnation and a probable slump back into an unending Dark Age of
misery and poverty loom.
Bugger. :-(
Ian
Eric Grange
With big flowers painted on the sides and hairy guys inside?
Or black things with somber guys in suits?
;)
Eric
Dave Jewell
news:400d...@newsgroups.borland.com...
> It looks that ship is shinking. Too bad :-(
It does seem strange that there are no immediate replacement plans.
Dave
Dave Jewell
news:MPG.1a76f625b...@newsgroups.borland.com...
> Keep your eyes open for moving vans with Washington State plates
Heh! It does seem that way. ;-)
Dave
Mark Van Ditta
"Erich Stahler" <er...@stahler.com> wrote in message
news:400d...@newsgroups.borland.com...
> Borland Chief Technology officer Blake Stone resigns effective Feb. 6, no
> reason given, will not be replaced, so says the Dow Jones news service.
>
> Seems to be some real house cleaning going on at Borland lately,
>
>
I bet that it has something to do with "offshore outsourcing." Dale Fuller
has been a huge proponent of this practice.
Ray Andrews
> What you describe is a real dynamic that is all too frequent. Could
well be
> the case here. The gap between the world of a developer versus that
of a
> manager is significant. Many senior developers try it, don't like
it, and
> quit.... The dichotomy can be simply described as an
introvert/extrovert
> duality in the work place. I find many developers to be introverts,
by
> nature, and many managers to be extroverts...
From what I've seen of Blake, he's anything but an introvert, on the
contrary, he seemed like exactly the type of personality needed for
a CTO position.
Dennis Landi
news:400d51ca$1...@newsgroups.borland.com...
Don't know anything about the fellow. Was this his first executive
management position?
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Ray Andrews
> "Borland Software said it has no immediate plans to replace Barney
or Stone."
>
> This hints it's not part of a normal personnel rotation,
> but either a resignation that caught them with their pants
> down, or a "reorganization".
Seeing as how Blakes resignation is your standard two weeks notice, it
kind
of looks like a surprise.
Ian Marteens
>
> Companies reorganize all the time. What's bad about that ?
>
think Borland will sink: afaik, JBuilder is a gold mine. But I'm an
outsider, this is just my humble opinion.
Ian
Dennis Landi
You are actually suggesting with a straight face that Fuller out-sourced his
CTO overseas ????
;0)
-d
Dave Jewell
news:400d...@newsgroups.borland.com...
> It'll be interested to see where he ends up...
Oh, come on...... ;-)
Dave
Dennis Landi
> I wonder if this is a case of placing a developer in a position they
> don't want to be in? From what I gather Blake Stone was a brilliant
> developer. That was what he really enjoyed doing- pure speculation on
> my part. He was promoted rapidly within Borland because of his
> accomplishments. As CTO he probably didn't get to do much of what he
> really enjoyed. And that's why he is now leaving? Any thoughts??
>
What you describe is a real dynamic that is all too frequent. Could well be
the case here. The gap between the world of a developer versus that of a
manager is significant. Many senior developers try it, don't like it, and
quit.... The dichotomy can be simply described as an introvert/extrovert
duality in the work place. I find many developers to be introverts, by
nature, and many managers to be extroverts...
-d
Mike Mormando
"Kevin" <kevinbe71@y_a_h_o_o.c_o_m> wrote in message
news:400d...@newsgroups.borland.com...
> I should add that the top XBox guy recently left Microsoft. OH NO...
> the XBOX is doomed!!!! ;-)
though it does make a fair linux box. ;)
Mike
Eric
Admiral Jake
news:400d...@newsgroups.borland.com...
> It looks that ship is shinking. Too bad :-(
That ship is always "sinking" but never sinks. Meanwhile, stable ocean
liners like Visual Cafe and Netscape (and Enron) disappear with nary a
trace.
Eric Grange
> CTO overseas ????
Hey, CTOs are more expensive than Joe Developper, if you can save money
by outsourcing Joe, imagine what you can save by outsourcing CTOs! ;)
(just don't forget to sell all those stock options swiftly)
Eric
Nick Hodges (TeamB)
> Don't know anything about the fellow. Was this his first executive
> management position?
I believe the position was created for him.
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Admiral Jake
news:400d...@newsgroups.borland.com...
> It does seem strange that there are no immediate replacement plans.
Maybe the CTO position is not as vital as some would think.
Nick Hodges (TeamB)
>
> Fine, but that didn't answer my question.
The answer is, as far as I know, yes.
John Wester [Group W]
none.com> says...
> "Nick Hodges (TeamB)" <nickh...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:400d553b$1...@newsgroups.borland.com...
> > Dennis Landi wrote:
> >
> > > Don't know anything about the fellow. Was this his first executive
> > > management position?
> >
> > I believe the position was created for him.
> >
>
> not replace him, but I didn't ask that.
>
Yes it was.
I bought my copy of Delphi 1 C/S from him when he was working for DKW
(since purchased by XWave) here in Calgary. He left for Borland about a
year later, ISTR.
I was so blown away by D1 that I whipped out my credit card and bought a
copy on the spot.
--
John
Life is complex. It has real and imaginary parts
Dennis Landi
> > > > management position?
> > >
> > > I believe the position was created for him.
> > >
> >
> > Fine, but that didn't answer my question. It does answer why they
might
> > not replace him, but I didn't ask that.
> >
> Yes it was.
>
> I bought my copy of Delphi 1 C/S from him when he was working for DKW
> (since purchased by XWave) here in Calgary. He left for Borland about a
> year later, ISTR.
>
> I was so blown away by D1 that I whipped out my credit card and bought a
> copy on the spot.
>
Interesting. Life is funny like that.
Eric Grange
http://www.borland.com/news/press_releases/2003/08_18_03_borland_appoints_blake_stone_cto.html
(http://urljr.com/r01)
Blake Stone wasn't CTO for very long, which somewhat gives fuel
to your theory.
According to the Borland page, he was more an advocate for Java
and fancy but essentially useless stuff (IMHO) than for core,
everyday down and dirty tools, so maybe that's not too worrying.
(Borland users that were/are after team or modelling tools already
had to pick some long ago, and rather than seeing Borland trying
to compete with these, I would rather see them work on their core
business, aka. compilers & libraries).
Eric
Dennis Landi
news:400d553b$1...@newsgroups.borland.com...
>
> > Don't know anything about the fellow. Was this his first executive
> > management position?
>
> I believe the position was created for him.
>
Fine, but that didn't answer my question. It does answer why they might
not replace him, but I didn't ask that.
;-)
-d
David Farrell-Garcia
> It looks that ship is shinking. Too bad :-(
>
> Sakis
That is not a very smart remark unless you can back it up with facts.
I really hate that kind of remark. I hate, hate hate it! Did I
mention that I hate it?
--
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Whidbey Island Software LLC
Mark Van Ditta
"Dennis Landi" <none[at]none.com> wrote in message
news:400d5142$1...@newsgroups.borland.com...
>
> You are actually suggesting with a straight face that Fuller out-sourced
his
> CTO overseas ????
>
What I am saying is that Borland's lack of desire to backfill the CTO
position is an indication that they may move all R&D activity overseas
leaving only the sales machine in place in the U.S. If one has been
following venture capital (VC) lately, one is aware that VCs have been
pushing the "move all software R&D offshore after the tenth person comes on
board" mantra. We are entering a period of major structural change in
software development as well as the other engineering disciplines (on scale
with the deindustrialization of the U.S.). What the landscape will look
like after the dust settles is anyone's guess.
Dennis Landi
> That is not a very smart remark unless you can back it up with facts.
> I really hate that kind of remark. I hate, hate hate it! Did I
> mention that I hate it?
we hates'em precioussss, don't we precioussss. we hates'em!
Dave Jewell
news:400d...@newsgroups.borland.com...
> > What I am saying is that Borland's lack of desire to backfill the CTO
> > position is an indication that they may move all R&D activity overseas
> > leaving only the sales machine in place in the U.S.
>
> This is, I should point out, +pure, utter, unfounded+ speculation.
Intruiging idea, though, and consistent with the recent moves to pare
operating costs to the bone. What about moving R&D to the UK? We're here,
we're cheap. ;-))
Dave
Craig Stuntz [TeamB]
> What I am saying is that Borland's lack of desire to backfill the CTO
> position is an indication that they may move all R&D activity overseas
> leaving only the sales machine in place in the U.S.
That doesn't make sense for a couple of reasons:
o Borland never said they won't fill the CTO slot, only that they
don't have plans at this moment. Since Blake's departure *appears* (I
have no inside info) to have been a surprise, this should hardly be
surprising.
o Why would whether or not the CTO slot is filled affect where R & D
is done? If they had appointed a CTO based in Russia then I would
think there was something to your theory, but simply not having a CTO
appears to me to be an entirely separate issue. It looks to me to be
apples and oranges.
-Craig
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Sakis
"David Farrell-Garcia" <dav...@orcasoftware.com> wrote in message
news:400d598f$1...@newsgroups.borland.com...
Ray Andrews
> >
> > Sakis
>
> That is not a very smart remark unless you can back it up with
facts.
> I really hate that kind of remark. I hate, hate hate it! Did I
> mention that I hate it?
He did say "looks" ...
So, how do you REALLY feel about it <G>
Dave Jewell
news:400d...@newsgroups.borland.com...
> Maybe the CTO position is not as vital as some would think.
What can I say, except congrats on the promotion. ;-)
Dave
Nick Hodges (TeamB)
>
> What I am saying is that Borland's lack of desire to backfill the CTO
> position is an indication that they may move all R&D activity overseas
> leaving only the sales machine in place in the U.S.
This is, I should point out, +pure, utter, unfounded+ speculation.
--
Corbin Dunn (Borland)
The ship is not sinking. Borland has an incredible amount of talented
engineers, all of whom are capable of producing very high quality software.
-corbin
Ray Andrews
the CTO
> position is an indication that they may move all R&D activity
overseas
> leaving only the sales machine in place in the U.S. If one
has been
> following venture capital (VC) lately, one is aware that VCs
have been
> pushing the "move all software R&D offshore after the tenth
person comes on
> board" mantra. We are entering a period of major structural
change in
> software development as well as the other engineering
disciplines (on scale
> with the deindustrialization of the U.S.). What the landscape
will look
> like after the dust settles is anyone's guess.
You're talking about a company that wanted to have the conference
in the same place next year so that everyone would be close to the
office. I see you're point, but I don't see Borland as a company
that
would ever want to ship the work offshore.
Ray Andrews
> Dennis Landi wrote:
>
> > Don't know anything about the fellow. Was this his first
executive
> > management position?
>
> I believe the position was created for him.
I betcha Dale is wishing now that he hadn't given him that big
check
up on stage.
Mike Swaim
> I should add that the top XBox guy recently left Microsoft. OH NO...
> the XBOX is doomed!!!! ;-)
Well, it's losing money. If it was made by somebody other than MS, it
would probably be in trouble.
--
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mps...@mdanderson.org or msw...@odin.mdacc.tmc.edu at work
Disclaimer: Yeah, like I speak for MD Anderson.
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Jack Johnson
> Borland Chief Technology officer Blake Stone resigns effective Feb.
> 6, no reason given, will not be replaced, so says the Dow Jones news
> service.
>
> Seems to be some real house cleaning going on at Borland lately,
Ooh, look - the news made it to Joel On Software's discussion group
(although there aren't any responses as of this moment):
http://tinyurl.com/3crb3
Always interesting to see the take on news from outside these newsgroups...
--
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Admiral Jake
I just wish my official title at work was as much under my control.
Nick Hodges (TeamB)
> The ship is not sinking. Borland has an incredible amount of talented
> engineers, all of whom are capable of producing very high quality
> software.
Indeed.
Nick Hodges (TeamB)
> I betcha Dale is wishing now that he hadn't given him that big
> check
> up on stage.
I confess that thought crossed my mind. ;-)
Nick Hodges (TeamB)
> Intruiging idea
It is intriguing I suppose.
It does, however, remain unfounded, utter, and in my view somewhat
irresponsible, speculation.
Dennis Landi
> > What can I say, except congrats on the promotion. ;-)
>
> I just wish my official title at work was as much under my control.
>
I take it "Developer/Receptionist IV" is not to your liking?
Kevin
> Seeing as how Blakes resignation is your standard two weeks notice, it
> kind
> of looks like a surprise.
That's what I suspect.
Nick Hodges (TeamB)
> but simply not having a CTO
> appears to me to be an entirely separate issue.
Borland didn't have a CTO until Blake took the job.
Dennis Landi
> Craig Stuntz [TeamB] wrote:
>
> > but simply not having a CTO
> > appears to me to be an entirely separate issue.
>
> Borland didn't have a CTO until Blake took the job.
>
Actually, when Borland annouced the CTO position, the first thought in my
head was "What about Peter Coad? Why would they need another CTO?"...
;-)
Kevin
> That ship is always "sinking" but never sinks. Meanwhile, stable ocean
> liners like Visual Cafe and Netscape (and Enron) disappear with nary a
> trace.
Good one. :-)
chrisC
> > This is, I should point out, +pure, utter, unfounded+ speculation.
>
> Intruiging idea, though, and consistent with the recent moves to pare
> operating costs to the bone. What about moving R&D to the UK? We're
here,
> we're cheap. ;-))
>
Cheap does *NOT* equate to quality. As for moving R&D to the U.K, I shudder
to think of the consequences. We may get programmers who starts bitching &
moaning before they even start coding. Blimey!
Cheers
Chris
Pavel Vozenilek
"Corbin Dunn (Borland)" <cd...@no.spam.borland.com> wrote
Very nice to hear. So when can I expect path to BCB, fixing at least the
worst of its bugs?
/Pavel
Dennis Landi
message
> But the message that the above 3 departures paints is not, in my
> opinion, a positive one.
>
Agreed. Even the most starry-eyed, blind loyalist must pause, belch,
scratch their head and then their butts and then rub their eyes and wonder
what's going on....
Derek Davidson
> I betcha Dale is wishing now that he hadn't given him that big
> check up on stage.
OK - I'll bite :) How big was it and what was it for?
--
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http://www.enterpriseblue.com
Admiral Jake
news:400d59eb$1...@newsgroups.borland.com...
> If one has been
> following venture capital (VC) lately, one is aware that VCs have been
> pushing the "move all software R&D offshore after the tenth person comes
on
> board" mantra. We are entering a period of major structural change in
> software development as well as the other engineering disciplines (on
scale
> with the deindustrialization of the U.S.). What the landscape will look
> like after the dust settles is anyone's guess.
For all the talk about America's "deindustrialization", industrial goods and
resources are still the largest block of goods and resources the United
States trades with other countries, particularly exports.
By the way, software development is not being outsourced overseas, coding
is, and mostly in those situations where the waterfall methodology can work
well (which is not most software projects). Most of the software development
cycle can't be done overseas. However, coding is a commodity and anyone can
do that anywhere.
Derek Davidson
> Borland Chief Technology officer Blake Stone resigns effective Feb.
> 6, no reason given, will not be replaced, so says the Dow Jones news
> service.
Hmmm. Well, this has brought me out of my self-enforced ng vacation :)
Taken in isolation, I wouldn't have worried too much about this. But
looked on as part of the big picture, I confess to some concern:
1. Delphi's Chief Architect Chuck J departs Borland Dec 2003.
2. One of Delphi's internal evangelists Simon Thornhill, departs
Borland Dec 2003.
3. JBuilders Chief Architect and Borland CTO departs Borland Jan 2004.
I take as read that Borland have many very proficient technologists
working on code right now and that development continues.
But the message that the above 3 departures paints is not, in my
opinion, a positive one.
--
Derek Davidson
http://www.enterpriseblue.com
Ray Andrews
> > I betcha Dale is wishing now that he hadn't given him that big
> > check up on stage.
>
> OK - I'll bite :) How big was it and what was it for?
I have no idea, but judging by Blakes reaction it was mostly 0's
Joanna Carter (TeamB)
| What about moving R&D to the UK? We're
| here, we're cheap. ;-))
You might be cheap Dave, but I am worth every penny!! ;-)
Joanna
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Sakis P.
"Corbin Dunn (Borland)" <cd...@no.spam.borland.com> wrote in message
news:400d5fdd$1...@newsgroups.borland.com...
> The ship is not sinking. Borland has an incredible amount of talented
> engineers, all of whom are capable of producing very high quality
software.
I really hope so :-|
Sakis
Brad Miller
>
> Don't know anything about the fellow. Was this his first executive
> management position?
>
experienced I had with him. This was I think at the Denver conference a
bunch of years ago. I'm in the Hotel's hot tub, kicking back after a
long day of session attending. Now IIRC this was pretty early in the
JBuilder product line's existence. I had played around with it, but was
pretty clueless about Java and JBuilder, (I still am, but I digress). So
Blake was talking with someone else in the hot tub about the JBCL
components, and how great they were, even though it was pretty obvious
at that time that no one was going to use them much. He was waxing very
eloquently about how incredibly great they were, but more from a purely
theoretical point of view. As if he had been given a palette to work
with, and this component set was artistic perfection. While everytime I
saw him give a presentation, I always though he came off a bit pompous,
I was stunned by his level of knowledge and "devotion to his craft".
I think all of this news is VERY BAD for both Borland, and for my career
as a Delphi developer...
Kevin
> Taken in isolation, I wouldn't have worried too much about this. But
> looked on as part of the big picture, I confess to some concern:
>
> 1. Delphi's Chief Architect Chuck J departs Borland Dec 2003.
I thought that this was just a rumour?
> 2. One of Delphi's internal evangelists Simon Thornhill, departs
> Borland Dec 2003.
Ditto on this one.
> 3. JBuilders Chief Architect and Borland CTO departs Borland Jan 2004.
OK, this one's for real.
Will someone from Borland step in and confirm or deny the first 2 points?
Thanks,
Kevin.
Ian Marteens
>
> destabilise the rest of the US economy.
Are you serious on this? C'mon, there's more in the US economy than Borland.
And about the EU, it's true that Germany & France are facing problems, but
the countries from the outer ring are doing very well. As a matter of fact,
a massive shift from Delphi to VS could even be good in some countries, as
in the case of Spain. And not only for the big ones.
Ian
Corbin Dunn (Borland)
> > engineers, all of whom are capable of producing very high quality
> software.
> >
> Very nice to hear. So when can I expect path to BCB, fixing at least the
> worst of its bugs?
First off all, are they in Quality Central? Second, I'm simply a developer
who works on the Delphi/.NET team, not the C++ team. Nor do I make manager
decisions on what products to patch/update. Also, BCB issues are best
brought up in the cbuilder groups.
thanks,
corbin
John Wester [Group W]
says...
> Craig Stuntz [TeamB] wrote:
>
> > but simply not having a CTO
> > appears to me to be an entirely separate issue.
>
> Borland didn't have a CTO until Blake took the job.
>
>
Days:
http://www.ideaedge.com/website/team/lefaivre.htm
--
John
Life is complex. It has real and imaginary parts
Joanna Carter (TeamB)
| Cheap does *NOT* equate to quality. As for moving R&D to the U.K, I
| shudder to think of the consequences. We may get programmers who
| starts bitching & moaning before they even start coding. Blimey!
Where do you think the US gets all its quality from? History shows the UK to
be the world leader at innovation; they just don't know how to back a good
idea; that is why all the best British brains are in the US :-)
chrisC
news:400d6ac2$2...@newsgroups.borland.com...
>
> Where do you think the US gets all its quality from? History shows the UK
to
> be the world leader at innovation; they just don't know how to back a good
> idea; that is why all the best British brains are in the US :-)
>
> Joanna
>
Oh course Joanna! Quite right indeed. I remembered when I applied to work
in the U.S from Southampton U.K, at the hotel they held interviews, I met 4
of my colleques from the same department and 3 got offers to work in the
U.S. The rest is history ... their kids were born here, bought a house,
better weather ..... better $ and stayed!
Cheers
Chris
Nick Hodges (TeamB)
> Beg to correct you Nick, but Rick LeFaivre was CTO during the Pizza
> Boy Days:
I stand corrected.
There was not, however, a CTO when Blake took the job.
Nick Hodges (TeamB)
> Are you serious on this?
No, I don't think he was.
Derek Davidson
> Are you serious on this?
I think his tongue was FIRMLY planted in his cheek.
By which I mean no, I don't think he was serious.
Rudy Velthuis (TeamB)
> > > It looks that ship is shinking. Too bad :-(
> >
> > Worse than that; knock on effects from Borland's problems may well
> > destabilise the rest of the US economy.
>
> Are you serious on this?
Guess...
--
Rudy Velthuis (TeamB)
"The only way to get rid of a temptation is to yield to it."
- Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
Ray Andrews
> probably in that enforced quiet time that precedes
investor-related
> news like quarterly reports.
Oh, I wish you hadn't made me think about that :-(
Ian Marteens
>
> No, I don't think he was.
>
brain must be JITting code (I've just received John Gough's book on .NET
compiling).
Rudy Velthuis (TeamB)
> > It looks that ship is shinking. Too bad :-(
>
> The ship is not sinking. Borland has an incredible amount of talented
> engineers, all of whom are capable of producing very high quality
> software.
... says one of them. <vbg>
Actually, I agree with you, Corbin.
--
Rudy Velthuis (TeamB)
"I've just learned about his illness. Let's hope it's nothing trivial."
-- Irvin S. Cobb
Rudy Velthuis (TeamB)
> What I am saying is that Borland's lack of desire to backfill the CTO
> position is an indication that they may move all R&D activity overseas
> leaving only the sales machine in place in the U.S.
Oh dear, how did you come up with such nonsense?
--
Rudy Velthuis (TeamB)
"If you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you."
- Friedrich Nietzsche (1844-1900)
Chris Woodruff
help shed some light. And what he said is very true. Each time a great
mind has left Borland there has been someone to step up and take the
responsibility.
We are all looking for patches to many issues in Borland products but don't
jump on each post from a Borland employee. Might make them give up these
newsgroups all together and that would be a shame.
Chris Woodruff
"Pavel Vozenilek" <pavel_v...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:400d...@newsgroups.borland.com...
Admiral Jake
> Taken in isolation, I wouldn't have worried too much about this. But
> looked on as part of the big picture, I confess to some concern:
Usually mass resignations or departures indicate a rather strong change in
direction, philosophy or policy is imminent. I wonder what it might be? From
this vantage point I don't see anything yet that qualifies as being in this
magnitude. I do note that the Borlanders are being silent, but they are
probably in that enforced quiet time that precedes investor-related news
like quarterly reports.
The mind boggles at all the idle speculation that is possible right now...
Ian Marteens
> > > position is an indication that they may move all R&D activity overseas
> > > leaving only the sales machine in place in the U.S.
> >
>
> Intruiging idea, though, and consistent with the recent moves to pare
> operating costs to the bone. What about moving R&D to the UK? We're
here,
> we're cheap. ;-))
>
>
:) Be careful, there's always someone cheaper...
Ian
John Wester [Group W]
says...
> John Wester [Group W] wrote:
>
> > Beg to correct you Nick, but Rick LeFaivre was CTO during the Pizza
> > Boy Days:
>
> I stand corrected.
>
> There was not, however, a CTO when Blake took the job.
>
Derek Davidson
>> 1. Delphi's Chief Architect Chuck J departs Borland Dec 2003.
>
> I thought that this was just a rumour?
Sadly not. Here's one link:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl1956641751d&dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-
8&oe=UTF-8&selm=3ffee815%241%40newsgroups.borland.com
>> 2. One of Delphi's internal evangelists Simon Thornhill, departs
>> Borland Dec 2003.
> Ditto on this one.
On 8 Jan 2004, Dave Jewell gave us this:
"I can tell you "officially" that Simon Thornhill has gone. Some of us
(that is to say, UK journalists) have already been told as much by
Borland's UK PR company. I could say a great deal more, but it really
ought to come from Borland."
Here's another google link:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl3638022414d&dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-
8&oe=UTF-8&selm=3ffd2dd2%40newsgroups.borland.com
Brion L. Webster
> Agreed. Even the most starry-eyed, blind loyalist must pause,
> belch, scratch their head and then their butts and then rub their
> eyes and wonder what's going on....
I'd hope you'd wash before rubbing your eyes... <g>
Brion L. Webster
> I take it "Developer/Receptionist IV" is not to your liking?
ROTFL! But only because it's all too close to being true.
Official title and job duties have nothing to do with each other in
my case.
-Brion
Brion L. Webster
> Usually mass resignations or departures indicate a rather strong
> change in direction, philosophy or policy is imminent. I wonder
> what it might be? From this vantage point I don't see anything
> yet that qualifies as being in this magnitude. I do note that the
> Borlanders are being silent, but they are probably in that
> enforced quiet time that precedes investor-related news like
> quarterly reports.
My wife just packed away my "Open Sourced Interbase" T-shirt, the
one from BorCon 2000, with the penguin and the Pheonix on it.
My first exposure to Dale was the cancellation of the Interbase
grand plan.
Then again, I haven't heard from Corel in a while, maybe we've got
a new suitor around...
-Brion
Admiral Jake
news:xn0ddieo7goxnm00j@medion3000...
> Oh dear, how did you come up with such nonsense?
Usenet is full of such nonsense.
Jim Gallagher
> check
> up on stage.
Speculation: Microsoft had agreed not to cherry pick Borland's
technical staff. Maybe that agreement expired, hence the big check and
the mini-exodus.
-Jim
Eric
> > > "Admiral Jake" <johnjac76[nospam]@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > > What can I say, except congrats on the promotion. ;-)
> >
> > I just wish my official title at work was as much under my control.
> >
>
> I take it "Developer/Receptionist IV" is not to your liking?
I'd get a raise if they added "Receptionist" to my title!
Dennis Landi
news:400d...@newsgroups.borland.com...
(... I'll be right back ...)
Bob Swart
> Borland didn't have a CTO until Blake took the job.
I believe that in the past (IntraBuilder timeframe), Paul Cross was once
the CTO, wasn't he? (see http://www.drbob42.com/events/bdc-96.htm and
http://www.drbob42.com/events/bdc96.htm)
> Nick Hodges (TeamB)
Groetjes,
Bob Swart (aka Dr.Bob - www.DrBob42.com)
--
Bob Swart Training & Consultancy (eBob42) Borland Technology Partner
webmaster UK Borland User Group (BUG) & DotNet Developers Group (DDG)
Dave Jewell
news:400d...@newsgroups.borland.com...
> I'd hope you'd wash before rubbing your eyes... <g>
ROFL. ;-)
Dave
Dave Jewell
news:400d6ac2$2...@newsgroups.borland.com...
> Where do you think the US gets all its quality from? History shows the UK
to
> be the world leader at innovation; they just don't know how to back a good
> idea; that is why all the best British brains are in the US :-)
Sad, but true. :-(
Dave
Bob Swart
> The ship is not sinking. Borland has an incredible amount of talented
> engineers, all of whom are capable of producing very high quality software.
Aye to that!!
> -corbin
GO BORLAND (and by "GO" I don't mean "away" ;-)
Dave Jewell
fish :-))
Dave
Dave Jewell
news:400d5f5d$1...@newsgroups.borland.com...
> I betcha Dale is wishing now that he hadn't given him that big
> check up on stage.
Maybe Dale is wishing the check hadn't bounced. ;-)
Dave