How much to charge?
Roland
should require one week at its maximum?
What would be the different factors by which you would perhabs adjust
the wage (eg. interest in the topics or frameworks involved, sure thing
for success, good reference or else)?
Regards
Roland
Uffe Kousgaard
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> How much would you charge for a freelancer Delphi project job which
> should require one week at its maximum?
42
Paul Nichols [TeamB]
Wouldn't that depend upon where you are?
Most US consultants get between $50-$100 per hour freelance.
Richard Foersom
Hoi Paul
>Most US consultants get between $50-$100 per hour freelance.
100 USD = 70 EUR do not sound expensive for a programmer. If I bring my car to the (VW/Audi) garage in LU they would charge like 70-80 EUR per hour.
To put this into perspective, at the same location (town) how much would these cost per hour:
- Car mechanic work at brand name garage?
- Plumbing work at your per hour?
- Lawyer at his office?
I am not talking about some celebrity lawyer appearing on TV or so, just people with an education in each of these fields.
Doei RIF
Ray Marron
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>
> Hoi Paul
>
>>Most US consultants get between $50-$100 per hour freelance.
>
> 100 USD = 70 EUR do not sound expensive for a programmer.
Is sounding expensive a prerequisite for correctness? My experience agrees
with Paul's. Experiences may differ outside the US.
--
Ray Marron
TJC Support
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>
> these cost per hour:
>
> - Car mechanic work at brand name garage?
> - Plumbing work at your per hour?
> - Lawyer at his office?
And here in America, you can get a guy to throw a ball up in the air for
about $250,000 per hour. Guess it all depends on the market for the service
in question and how much the potential buyers perceive the value to be.
Cheers,
Van
Roland
J. Lee
your client going to retain it? I.e. does the work have any value beyond
just your customer?
James Miller
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> Are you going to retain the copyright (the intellectual property) or is
> your client going to retain it? I.e. does the work have any value beyond
> just your customer?
If the customer wants to own the copyright then the best way to proceed is
to become an employee of the customer. But becoming an employee for just
two weeks may be silly.
It's good to be informed, but really I think the copyright issue is more of
the customer's headache.
Roland
Jon Purvis
I've charged $20 an hour for a friend's startup, gotten $30-50/hour from
a companies that friends worked at, and done a few projects for free
when the subject matter interested me. If doing it for a friend, even if
their employer pays, I'm generally willing to take a much lower price to
ensure I get the job. If there is a rush deadline that requires me to
work numerous nights in a row or stay home from my regular job, the
prices goes high quickly. I consider $50/hour a fair price for the kind
of jobs I do on the side. I don't have to worry about overhead,
insurance, or any of those other things that a freelancer has to
consider, which is a reason I can work cheaper when I want.
--
Jon Purvis
Wildlife Technical Programs Lead
Texas Parks and Wildlife Department
Austin, TX
Alexandre Machado
> How much would you charge for a freelancer Delphi project job which should
> require one week at its maximum?
Here we charge from US$ 30 to 70 per hour, depending on the contractor and
the project, in short projects. It used to be less than that in US dollars,
but nowadays the dollar is undervalued.
Regards,
Alexandre Machado
Martin Müller
> but nowadays the dollar is undervalued.
Here in Switzerland it's certainly USD 100+/hour
If the dollar is undervalued is indeed another question. IMHO the dollar
will decline even more in the next years which of course is good news
for US ppl exporting products/services..
BR/Martin.
Richard
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Rene Tschaggelar
The car mechanic has an infrastructure that costs
a multiple of the setup of a programmer.
Rene
Richard Foersom
> Is sounding expensive a prerequisite for correctness? My experience
> agrees with Paul's. Experiences may differ outside the US.
I do not know, but salaries varies a lot depending on location. To
compare I would like to know what services by other professionels cost
per hour. Making a contract for software development company for a
shorter term (some weeks), I would expect to be somewhat more expensive
than cost of car mechanics and craftmen.
Doei RIF
Richard Foersom
> And here in America, you can get a guy to throw a ball up in the air
> for about $250,000 per hour. Guess it all depends on the market for
> the service in question and how much the potential buyers perceive
> the value to be.
You must be talking about some sport star you will see on TV. I do not
see the relation to my question. I specifically did not want to compare
with some TV star salaries.
However because salaries depend so much on country/location, I would
like to know the hourly salary of other skilled professionels.
Doei RIF
Marc Rohloff [TeamB]
> I would expect to be somewhat more expensive
> than cost of car mechanics and craftmen.
In my experience I pay significantly more for a plumber than I can
charge.
--
Marc Rohloff [TeamB]
marc -at- marc rohloff -dot- com
Del Murray
interior trim work in these old historic houses it goes up significantly. ..
true story.
Richard Foersom
> In my experience I pay significantly more for a plumber than I can
> charge.
Is this because the plumber job would only be some hours/half a day,
whereas your work would typically is a contract over many days or weeks?
Do you charge differently for short/longer term contracts?
Doei RIF
Bob Swart
> Most US consultants get between $50-$100 per hour freelance.
I charge between 100-125 Euro per hour. For a week I could ask a fixed
fee of 4000 Euro (where I could work for more than 8 hours / 5 days when
needed, but I'd have to be convinced it would be do-able in roughly a week).
For small tasks of about one day, I often include a no-cure-no-pay
condition combined with a fixed fee. So it's all or nothing ;-)
Groetjes,
Bob Swart
--
Bob Swart Training & Consultancy (eBob42.com) Forever Loyal to Delphi
CodeGear Technology Partner -- CodeGear RAD Studio Reseller (BeNeLux)
Blog: http://www.drbob42.com/blog - RSS: http://eBob42.com/weblog.xml
Richard Foersom
Hoi Rene
A fair point, but AFAIK you are working in both electronics and
programming. This must also carry some cost of special equipment.
How much time must you devote to personal development and
experimentation must you devote to keep abrest of progress in the
engineering field? A cost that can be difficult to attribute to a
specific customer, but must somehow be taken into account of the
general hour cost.
Doei RIF
Richard Foersom
> > How much would you charge for a freelancer Delphi project job which
> > should require one week at its maximum?
>
> 42
Hoi Uffe
Would that be 42 DKK (=5.50 EUR) or 42 EUR per hour? ;-)
Doei RIF
Richard Foersom
> I charge a $125/hr in Pensacola Florida for programming but when I do
> interior trim work in these old historic houses it goes up
> significantly. .. true story.
You work part time programming and part time as house decorator?
And you charge more per hour for house decoration?
Do you have a formal degree (university) in engineering or computer
science?
If you are going to answer yes to these three question, maybe we just
all need to give up this software engineering and learn to swing the
hammer and work the spanner. ;-)
Doei RIF
I.P. Nichols
Here in New Jersey 15 miles from NYC, self-employed contract developers
charge in the range of $80-125/hr. I use a very good self-employed home
improvement and painting guy who charges $50/hr. I just had some paid by
insurance auto body work done the shop charged $43/hr. My Honda dealer
charges $75 for an repair estimate...
Uffe Kousgaard
>
> Would that be 42 DKK (=5.50 EUR) or 42 EUR per hour? ;-)
I meant 42 ounces of gold :-)
TJC Support
>
> You must be talking about some sport star you will see on TV. I do not
> see the relation to my question. I specifically did not want to compare
> with some TV star salaries.
>
> However because salaries depend so much on country/location, I would
> like to know the hourly salary of other skilled professionels.
The point I was trying to make is that you really can't compare one type of
service to another, and say that programming should be some percentage more
than plumbing or car repair, or on a par with lawyers. It depends on the
market where you are selling your services as to how valuable they will be.
In one location, programming may be very highly valued and home
improvement/repair or car maintenance might be cheap, while in another
location it may be just the opposite.
Personally, I'm in Nashville, TN and mostly do work for large US companies,
and US or foreign militaries, and I charge $100 per hour for projects, or
$1000 per day plus expenses for on-site training. I don't know how that
compares with other services, nor do I care. It is what my market will
bear. Obviously, I would like my services to be valued higher than that,
and my customers would like them to be less. It's a compromise that we both
can live with, and that's what sets the price. As my former lawyer used to
tell me, when both parties in a negotiation think they got the short end of
the stick, you have a fair deal. Rarely do both think they got a good
deal....
Cheers,
Van
Iv
I know many places where university professors, leave the university and
started to work as car (taxi) drivers. Reasons - social and economics
conditions.
Somewhere in Eastern Europe (where education was very strong, but
economical conditions is not so good), you can rent excellent professionals
for 130 USD daily. Market.
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Chi-Shun Chen (Googi Calendar)
> require one week at its maximum?
>
> wage (eg. interest in the topics or frameworks involved, sure thing for
> success, good reference or else)?
>
>
> Roland
Are you programmer?
If you are,
you should able to evalue the cost of each task,
why not task-base?
Some of them can finish your task in few hours by using their old units.
or,
that is what some programmers like to(have to) stay office very late even
just do nothing.
(but this make them looking work hard and get more pay)
Andrew
Rita
already laid out visually forms tables etc. It mostly needs
error traps and gotchas and memory leaks or as I call
them waterfalls. The app is an Ebay type thing without
the auction. Every catagory and subcat ebay has this site
will have for selling stuff at a fixed price.
Tools needed
D7
DBisam
IW
TMS IW
Rita
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Rita
"I.P. Nichols" <NoS...@nada.com> wrote in message
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> "Richard Foersom" wrote:
>
> Here in New Jersey 15 miles from NYC, self-employed contract developers
> charge in the range of $80-125/hr. I use a very good self-employed home
> improvement and painting guy who charges $50/hr. I just had some paid by
> insurance auto body work done the shop charged $43/hr. My Honda dealer
> charges $75 for an repair estimate...
Does that painter come to the UK ?
Car repairs expensive here also.
10 years since some idiot ran into me it was an insurance
claim, £1,200 for the panel beneath the rear bumper and
the plastic bumper fixed thats 4 foot x 18 inches of metal
to chop out and replace plus a litre can of paint the bumper
was fixed by some guy who makes a living making one from
2 broken ones you cant tell thje difference.
The kid who works there lives close by told me he did it
and he only earned £30 a day at the time. They made a grand
from my insurance at least. That was 10 years ago grrrrrrrr
Rita
Rick Carter
>It mostly needs
>error traps and gotchas and memory leaks or as I call
>them waterfalls.
How many memory leaks do you want added to your app? ;-)
Rick Carter
cart...@despammed.com
Chair, Delphi/Paradox SIG, Cincinnati PC Users Group
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Rita
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>
> How many memory leaks do you want added to your app? ;-)
>
My grammar is awful boohoo I skipped school and did awful things.
I even played poker with the Cincinnati kid. ;-)
Rita
I.P. Nichols
> "I.P. Nichols" wrote:
>> ... I use a very good self-employed home improvement and painting guy who
>> charges $50/hr.
>
> Does that painter come to the UK ?
If you are offering round trip airfare plus local living expenses then I'll
ask him.
He's an interesting guy, as a boy he went to work for a bakery, saved his
money, bought the out the guy and built it into a large bakery and
distributor of cookies to school kids that employed some 30 people and he
sold it when junk food vendors like Mickey D invaded local schools. Years
ago when ever I passed his bakery I would stop and get a few chocolate chip
cookies as they came off the conveyor belt out of the oven, smelled
wonderful and tasted really great while still warm but not so great when
they cooled. :)
Q Correll
| I even played poker with the Cincinnati kid. ;-)
Nothing wrong with that.
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Alexandre Machado
McDonalds has created its own BigMac index. I propose BEER index: How many
cans of beer do you charge per hour? hehehehe
I charge 50 cans! ;-)
Regards,
Alexandre Machado
Richard Foersom
> I charge 50 cans! ;-)
50 cans per hour? I presume that is Brahma's?
Doei RIF
Richard Foersom
> The point I was trying to make is that you really can't compare one
> type of service to another, and say that programming should be some
> percentage more than plumbing or car repair, or on a par with
> lawyers. It depends on the market where you are selling your
> services as to how valuable they will be.
You cannot directly compare, but I think in most countries that you can
get an idea about price level from looking on some other
service/knowledge businesses.
Doei RIF
Alexandre Machado
> 50 cans per hour? I presume that is Brahma's?
Brahma, Skol, and others. If it is ice cold bring it to me! :-)
Regards,
Alexandre Machado
Richard Foersom
> Brahma, Skol, and others. If it is ice cold bring it to me! :-)
Brahma I know, but Skol I have not encountered. I take that it is also
from Brazil?
BTW Alexandre, why are you in front of the computer. Should you not be
celebrating the carneval? ;-)
Doei RIF
Alexandre Machado
> from Brazil?
Hi Richard!
Yes Skol is a light pilsen beer, from the same manufacturer of Brahma. Very
appreciated here specially when you are at a sunny beach!
If you come to Brazil someday we can have some! ;-)
> BTW Alexandre, why are you in front of the computer. Should you not be
> celebrating the carneval? ;-)
Unfortunatelly the carnaval is over! Now I have to wait till 2009...
Best regards,
Alexandre Machado
L
> How much would you charge for a freelancer Delphi project job which
> should require one week at its maximum?
>
> What would be the different factors by which you would perhabs adjust
> the wage (eg. interest in the topics or frameworks involved, sure thing
> for success, good reference or else)?
>
> Regards
>
> Roland
Depends on the programmer.. some charge hourly, some charge per project
completed.
I'd charge under $35/hour.
Most US programmers charge more than $50 per hour and depends on their
location and living costs.
Someone who lives in a $725,000 house in a big city is going to charge
more per hour than someone who lives in a $40,000 place in a small city.
It is all based on the living costs of the programmer.. how many cars he
or she buys himself and his partner, what kind of fancy meals he eats
out, etc.
Regards,
L505
http://z505.com
L
> Hi Doc how long would it take you to do an IW site that's
> already laid out visually forms tables etc. It mostly needs
> error traps and gotchas and memory leaks or as I call
> them waterfalls. The app is an Ebay type thing without
> the auction. Every catagory and subcat ebay has this site
> will have for selling stuff at a fixed price.
> Tools needed
> D7
> DBisam
> IW
> TMS IW
>
Hire a Z505 programmer and use Powtils for under $35/hour.