Software Update: Delphi 6 RTL Update Pack 3
John Kaster
A fix for frame streaming is available for download
http://bdn.borland.com/article/0,1410,29932,00.html
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Sergey Kostinsky
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> Software Update: Delphi 6 RTL Update Pack 3
> A fix for frame streaming is available for download
> http://bdn.borland.com/article/0,1410,29932,00.html
It seems that all links on
http://www.borland.com/products/downloads/download_delphi.html
are broken.
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John Kaster
> It seems that all links on
> http://www.borland.com/products/downloads/download_delphi.html
> are broken.
Works fine for me from home. Could you be more specific?
David Mustard
page.
David
"John Kaster" <jo...@borland.com> wrote in message
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Sergey Kostinsky
> > It seems that all links on
> > http://www.borland.com/products/downloads/download_delphi.html
> > are broken.
>
> Works fine for me from home. Could you be more specific?
All links on that page refer to
http://www.borland.com/products/downloads/download_delphi.html#
so basically nothing changes when I click on Updates link.
Am I missing something?
Andy Mackie
> Software Update: Delphi 6 RTL Update Pack 3
> A fix for frame streaming is available for download
> http://bdn.borland.com/article/0,1410,29932,00.html
I can see the article, but I don't see the update listed in the "Delphi 6
Registered Users Updates" page.
Andy Mackie.
Ingvar Nilsen
just run one setup.exe and after that know that I have the
newest D6 available? Without having to ponder about whether I
have installed previous updates or patches etc. etc.
(With single I mean one for professional, one for enterprise etc.)
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Illya Kysil
> A fix for frame streaming is available for download
> http://bdn.borland.com/article/0,1410,29932,00.html
any Update 3 info. Delphi 6 Runtime Library Update 2 is the latest.
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Johannes Berg
>
> All links on that page refer to
> http://www.borland.com/products/downloads/download_delphi.html#
> so basically nothing changes when I click on Updates link.
>
> Am I missing something?
Yes, a javascript popup.
johannes
Mike Swaim
> A fix for frame streaming is available for download
> http://bdn.borland.com/article/0,1410,29932,00.html
I don't see it, either.All I see is RTL update 2.
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Will DeWitt
> A fix for frame streaming is available for download
> http://bdn.borland.com/article/0,1410,29932,00.html
Don't see the files on the FTP site, and since you guys subscribe to
"security through obscurity", I can't do a simple 'ls' on the server to see
if the file has some name not matching the convention used in RTL2.
You (Borland) might want to consider integrating our sign-up/registration
names with your FTP software to allow for authenticated logins so we can do
directory queries and whatnot (plus sometimes it's nice to browse an FTP
directory rather than wade through download links, etc).
Will
Rudy Velthuis (TeamB)
> Software Update: Delphi 6 RTL Update Pack 3
> A fix for frame streaming is available for download
> http://bdn.borland.com/article/0,1410,29932,00.html
I can get to the "Delphi 6 Registered Users Updates" page, but don't see
any RTL Update Pack 3. 2 seems to be the highest.
Wazzup?
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Sergey Kostinsky
"Johannes Berg" <ne...@johannes.sipsolutions.de> wrote in message
> > Am I missing something?
>
> Yes, a javascript popup.
Ah, thanks, had disabled popups.
Sorry for the false alarm.
DRS
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> "John Kaster" <jo...@borland.com> wrote in message
> news:3E9616F9...@borland.com...
> > Software Update: Delphi 6 RTL Update Pack 3
> > A fix for frame streaming is available for download
> > http://bdn.borland.com/article/0,1410,29932,00.html
>
> Don't see the files on the FTP site, and since you guys subscribe to
> "security through obscurity", I can't do a simple 'ls' on the server to
see
> if the file has some name not matching the convention used in RTL2.
I don't think the file is there. The download address for RTL2 Pro update
is
ftp://ftpd.borland.com/devsupport/delphi/d6/variant_patch/english/professional/del6_pro_rtl2.exe,
so I tried
ftp://ftpd.borland.com/devsupport/delphi/d6/variant_patch/english/professional/del6_pro_rtl3.exe
but got an FTP error saying that file isn't there.
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> Would it be possible to have one single update for D6, so that I
> just run one setup.exe and after that know that I have the
> newest D6 available? Without having to ponder about whether I
> have installed previous updates or patches etc. etc.
Seconded.
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John Kaster
> I can get to the "Delphi 6 Registered Users Updates" page, but don't see
> any RTL Update Pack 3. 2 seems to be the highest.
Weird. I saw it when I wrote the article. Hmm. Maybe I was still looking
at the staging server by mistake. Anyway, I'll get it fixed. Thanks.
John Kaster
> Yes, a javascript popup.
Please, let's keep the language clean, ok? ;)
John Kaster
> Would it be possible to have one single update for D6, so that I
> just run one setup.exe and after that know that I have the
> newest D6 available?
Yes, if you would like the updates to be delayed by at least a month.
Brion L. Webster
> I don't think the file is there. The download address for RTL2 Pro update
> is
> but got an FTP error saying that file isn't there.
Please remember posting direct links to the FTP server is bad, bad, bad. It
tries to bypass their registration scheme, and bypasses the round-robin load
balancing thingy.
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Ingvar Nilsen
> Ingvar Nilsen wrote:
>
>> Would it be possible to have one single update for D6, so that I
>> just run one setup.exe and after that know that I have the
>> newest D6 available?
>
>
> Yes, if you would like the updates to be delayed by at least a month.
I trust your estimate, but must say I am surprised that it should
involve that much efforts, even one man in one month seems to be
much more than I can imagine for such a task.
What I suggested was one setup.exe with all, absolutely all files
that have changed / been added /been moved /been removed since
DX was released.
Then the installer would overwrite, add, move or delete as appropriate.
Since there is no doubt about what the original DX contained, and
since there is no doubt about what the newest DX contains, it should
be pretty basic. Windows updates do it.
Prompt the user to accept that changes will take place, and ask her to
make a backup of the Delphi folders.
Then voila!
Working with several tools, development environments, utilities etc.,
that all have upgrades, service packs, patches - I personally want
to do it the idiot-proof way, my head is filled with enough else
to keep a record of what has been patched or not and what setup files
have been run in which order...
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Rudy Velthuis (TeamB)
> "DRS" <d...@removethis.ihug.com.au> wrote...
> > I don't think the file is there. The download address for RTL2 Pro
> > update is
> > so I tried
> > but got an FTP error saying that file isn't there.
>
> Please remember posting direct links to the FTP server is bad, bad,
> bad.
I had cancelled it. <g>
Rudy Velthuis (TeamB)
> Weird. I saw it when I wrote the article. Hmm. Maybe I was still
> looking at the staging server by mistake. Anyway, I'll get it fixed.
> Thanks.
I can see it now. Thank you!
John Kaster
> I trust your estimate, but must say I am surprised that it should
> involve that much efforts,
Maybe you don't understand how much regression testing it would involve.
> What I suggested was one setup.exe with all,
I understood your request.
Allan Knox
How about doing what you do now, for those where urgency is more
critical than extra checking time, and then doing as suggested, for those of
us who would rather wait a month than possibly screw up a critical upgrade?
I appreciate it is not easy, but it is surely better than experts well
versed in the area do it once, rather than a whole bunch of us, not so
expert in that area, doing it many times.
Regards
Allan Knox
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Bruce McGee
Regards,
Bruce McGee
John Kaster wrote:
>
> Maybe you don't understand how much regression testing it would involve.
>
[...]
John Kaster
> Fair enough. Would you describe it to us?
A full certification of every single IDE SKU would be required.
Bruce McGee
the consequences?
I think everyone would like a 3rd formal update to Delphi 6.
Understanding the cost might help us put it into perspective.
Regards,
Bruce McGee
Glooscap Software
John Kaster
> I think everyone would like a 3rd formal update to Delphi 6.
Everyone would probably like free ice cream for life, too. <g>
There are costs associated.
> Understanding the cost might help us put it into perspective.
It would delay Delphi 8 or reduce the amount of R&D work for Delphi 8,
reduce the bug fix work for Delphi 8, reduce the amount of features for
Delphi 8, reduce the amount of work done on any fixes for Delphi 7, ...
should I go on?
ozbear
wrote:
>Bruce McGee wrote:
>> I think everyone would like a 3rd formal update to Delphi 6.
>
>Everyone would probably like free ice cream for life, too. <g>
>
>There are costs associated.
>
>> Understanding the cost might help us put it into perspective.
>
>It would delay Delphi 8 or reduce the amount of R&D work for Delphi 8,
>reduce the bug fix work for Delphi 8, reduce the amount of features for
>Delphi 8, reduce the amount of work done on any fixes for Delphi 7, ...
>
>should I go on?
>
Please don't.
All you are saying is that Delphi 6 users will be left to
twist in the wind. Just because we don't immediately jump to
the next release doesn't mean that we should be left out in the
cold in defference to Borland spending its resources on a
new product that will, in turn, have bugs.
Oz
Dave Nottage (TeamB)
> All you are saying is that Delphi 6 users will be left to
> twist in the wind. Just because we don't immediately jump to
> the next release doesn't mean that we should be left out in the
> cold in defference to Borland spending its resources on a
On what is the "in defference" assertion based?
> that will, in turn, have bugs.
I doubt that any product as complex as Delphi is bug free.
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Bruce McGee
I know it's frustrating to have people keep asking about updates to the
previous version but, conspiracy theories aside, these are fair questions.
Personally, I don't mind not having a third service pack for Delphi 6.
Mind you, I wouldn't mind both RTL patches being rolled into one and
being self-installable rather than having to manually copy 7 files into
5 different directories. I think that's reasonable, and I'd be
surprised if that would delay the update by a month.
Hopefully constructive criticism.
Regards,
Bruce McGee
Glooscap Software
John Kaster
> Hopefully constructive criticism.
I consider it such.