Delphi 1 needed (16 bit)
Peter Richards
Was D1 the only 16 bit Delphi ? I was informed sometimes D1 was
included on the Delphi CD; I have D6 Pro, but I can't see D1. I need
D1 to some some work with a 16 bit 'engine'.
Is D1 in the museum, or where can I buy it ?
Peter
Brad Clarke
You'll need to get D4 or earlier to get D1.
Brad
Dave Nottage (TeamB)
> Was D1 the only 16 bit Delphi ? I was informed sometimes D1 was
> included on the Delphi CD; I have D6 Pro, but I can't see D1. I need
> D1 to some some work with a 16 bit 'engine'.
Delphi 1 was included with Delphi 3.. not sure about Delphi 4.. but not
with Delphi 5.
> Is D1 in the museum, or where can I buy it ?
The easiest way would be to look for Delphi 3 on ebay or somewhere like
that.
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Jim McKay
"Dave Nottage (TeamB)" <da...@removethis.b3.com.au> wrote in message
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| "Peter Richards" wrote:
| > Was D1 the only 16 bit Delphi ? I was informed sometimes D1 was
| > included on the Delphi CD; I have D6 Pro, but I can't see D1. I need
| > D1 to some some work with a 16 bit 'engine'.
|
| Delphi 1 was included with Delphi 3.. not sure about Delphi 4.. but not
| with Delphi 5.
Delphi 2 also, if I recall (at least c/s ver).
Anyway, if you can't find it, try:
http://www.emsps.com/oldtools/
This guy buys & sells older dev. softare, and trades in it too I think.
If you can't find one, send me a mail: I have an old copy of D2 which
I'll never use again.
Regards,
JMcKay
pnichols
> > Was D1 the only 16 bit Delphi ? I was informed sometimes D1 was
> > included on the Delphi CD; I have D6 Pro, but I can't see D1. I need
> > D1 to some some work with a 16 bit 'engine'.
>
> Delphi 1 was included with Delphi 3.. not sure about Delphi 4.. but not
> with Delphi 5.
>
with D1.
I do wonder why Borland does not put it on the museum site.
Peter Richards
>I do wonder why Borland does not put it on the museum site.
I think because it is not Y2k. However, the app (data) that I would
use it for has absolutely NO y2k problems, the date was a number, just
increments by one each day, and day 1 was someday in 1966, so anything
before then is a negative number. Simple eh. (see
http://www.revelation.com).
That said, I wish Borland would put it in the museum with a "use at
your own risk, it's not Y2k compliant" tag. I need a D1 that I can
deploy apps with (not the educational model).
Peter
Tim Sullivan
>
> I think because it is not Y2k.
Neither is TP 5.5, but it's in the museum. It may just be too soon.
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Peter Richards
On Wed, 13 Mar 2002 19:55:10 -0500, "pnichols" <paul@computer-logic>
wrote:
>I do wonder why Borland does not put it on the museum site.
Apparently John Kaster is considering it, see
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=john+kaster+delphi+1+museum&hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&oe=ISO-8859-1&selm=3C76B3E3.498B6EBB%40borland.com&rnum=1
Peter
David Farrell-Garcia
app completly Y2K way before the turn of the century .that app is still in
service (even running on XP) with no problems whatsoever.
It was not a big deal to wrap all date calls in a Y2K function for both
input and output.
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Anders Ohlsson (Borland)
Yes.
> I was informed sometimes D1 was
> included on the Delphi CD;
It comes with D2, D3 and D4.
> Is D1 in the museum
Not yet.
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Peter Richards
On Thu, 14 Mar 2002 10:16:33 +1030, "Dave Nottage \(TeamB\)"
<da...@removethis.b3.com.au> wrote:
>The easiest way would be to look for Delphi 3 on ebay or somewhere like
>that.
I just missed out on D4 Pro on eBay for AUD $ 50, that's about USD $
25 (grrrrrhhhh).
Peter
Peter Richards
My apologies, that should have read:
Hi Dave,
Peter Richards
On Wed, 13 Mar 2002 19:38:00 -0800, "Anders Ohlsson (Borland)"
<aohl...@borland.com> wrote:
>> Is D1 in the museum
>
>Not yet.
When it gets to the museum, can I deploy an application with it, for
no fees or royalties ?
Peter
John Kaster (Borland)
> When it gets to the museum, can I deploy an application with it, for
> no fees or royalties ?
When it goes into the museum, we'll state what you can do with it.
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Peter Richards
On Wed, 13 Mar 2002 19:38:00 -0800, "Anders Ohlsson (Borland)"
<aohl...@borland.com> wrote:
>> I was informed sometimes D1 was
>> included on the Delphi CD;
>
>It comes with D2, D3 and D4.
Are you ABSOLUTELY sure that a D4 Pro would have Delphi 1 ?
Just that someone contacted me and they are willing to sell at a very
good price, but is is all sealed, so he doesn't know if D1 is
included.
Thanks
Peter
Anders Ohlsson (Borland)
Ah. Delphi 4 Pro would have Delphi 1 Desktop in it.
If you want Delphi 1 C/S, you would need Delphi 2, 3 or 4 C/S.
Anders Ohlsson (Borland)
> good price, but is is all sealed, so he doesn't know if D1 is
> included.
Delphi 3 Pro (full box) for $47 right now - 16 hours left:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2007564015
I'm not sure if the CD only auctions are any good. I forget if the D1 CD is included,
or if there's a Delphi16 directory on the actual product CD. Somebody with D2, 3 or 4
could probably verify.
I'm stuck at home for a few days, so I can't verify right now.
Jim McKay
"Anders Ohlsson (Borland)" <aohl...@borland.com> wrote in message
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| I'm not sure if the CD only auctions are any good. I forget if the D1 CD
is included,
| or if there's a Delphi16 directory on the actual product CD. Somebody with
D2, 3 or 4
| could probably verify.
D1 is on same CD as later ver (at least on D2/3 CS).
Was D1 included on Standard in D2-3?
JMcKay
Anders Ohlsson (Borland)
I don't believe so. You would need Pro to get Desktop or C/S to get C/S.
I could be wrong. It's been years since I looked at the CDs for D1, 2, 3, 4...
Peter Richards
On Wed, 13 Mar 2002 21:00:23 -0800, "Anders Ohlsson (Borland)"
<aohl...@borland.com> wrote:
>> Are you ABSOLUTELY sure that a D4 Pro would have Delphi 1 ?
>
>Ah. Delphi 4 Pro would have Delphi 1 Desktop in it.
>
>If you want Delphi 1 C/S, you would need Delphi 2, 3 or 4 C/S.
To give you some idea of the project, we had not envisaged
client/server. I just want to use a D1 VCL wrapper around REVCAPI.DLL
(from RevSoft) , add ReportBuilder and give uses a standalone
application that can read RevSofts' linear hash files. Here's some
more info on the project:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Calling a 32-bit DLL from a 16-bit application is relatively *easy*,
and it's available on all 32-bit flavors of Windows. It's called
Generic Thunking and relies on WOW16.DLL and WOW32.DLL to do the
magic.
Going the other way (32-bit app calling 16-bit DLL ) is MUCH more
work. There is a type of thunking called Flat Thunking that only
works in Win95/98, but not NT/2K/XP, so the only option we're left
with that would work on all Win32 platforms is to use Windows
Messaging, specifically WM_COPYDATA that you mentioned in a previous
post. Using this we create a 16-bit app that loads the 16-bit DLL
that we want to talk to and fire off WM_COPYDATA messages to it from
our 32-bit App. These messages should be so designed so that they may
instruct the Win16 app to call the DLL functions appropriately. The
main point to using WM_COPYDATA is that you can pass a pointer to a
buffer across the different process boundaries - Windows translates
and maps the buffer for you, saving you a LOT of horrible work! "
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
So, I forsee no need for C/S for this (small) project, so just the
desktop version should be fine.
Thanks,
Peter
Peter Richards
On Wed, 13 Mar 2002 21:06:37 -0800, "Anders Ohlsson (Borland)"
<aohl...@borland.com> wrote:
>> Just that someone contacted me and they are willing to sell at a very
>> good price, but is is all sealed, so he doesn't know if D1 is
>> included.
>
>Delphi 3 Pro (full box) for $47 right now - 16 hours left:
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2007564015
The price I'm getting D4 Pro for works out at exactly the same, but
the seller is in Australia,, and so am I, and his price includes
express post, so will stick with that.
Thanks,
Peter
Oliver Townshend
> desktop version should be fine.
I wrote a similar app several years ago (which is still running). You do
only need the desktop version. Contact me if you want an example.
Oliver
DRS
> > Was D1 included on Standard in D2-3?
>
> I don't believe so. You would need Pro to get Desktop or C/S to get C/S.
>
> I could be wrong. It's been years since I looked at the CDs for D1, 2, 3,
4...
FWIW, D1 is on the D4 Std CD, in the \DELPHI16 folder.
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Andreas Koch
Peter Richards wrote:
> Was D1 the only 16 bit Delphi ? I was informed sometimes D1 was
> included on the Delphi CD; I have D6 Pro, but I can't see D1. I need
> D1 to some some work with a 16 bit 'engine'.
Just out of curiosity: about what "16 bit engine" are you speaking?
I just ask because some people have strange ideas :)
AFAIK D1 can build apps for Win3.1(1), running on 80386 and above
(and compatible).
(No idea if it allowed to build 80286 code or work without
coprocessor)
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Peter Richards
On Thu, 14 Mar 2002 20:47:05 +0100, Andreas Koch
<ma...@kochandreas.com> wrote:
>Peter Richards wrote:
>
>> Was D1 the only 16 bit Delphi ? I was informed sometimes D1 was
>> included on the Delphi CD; I have D6 Pro, but I can't see D1. I need
>> D1 to some some work with a 16 bit 'engine'.
>
>Just out of curiosity: about what "16 bit engine" are you speaking?
I need the D1 to access some linear hash files, via a 16 bit engine
called OpenInsight (actually called OpenEngine). There will be a 16
bit Delphi component, one or two 16 bit DLL's, and the 16 bit
'engine'. Without the engine, you cannot access the data. The project
will hopefully include adding ReportBuilder Pro, so that the (small)
D1 app will be able to report from the LH files.
OpenInsight is a 16 bit product from Revelation Technolgies (see
http://www.revelation.com), they now have a 32 bit OI, and a product
called JOI (Java for OpenInsight). Financially for now, I don't have
the bucks to upgrade the 16 bit OI to 32 bit, so I'm stuck with the 16
bit engine method.
See one of the other replies from me, in this thread where I explained
we will need to use WM_COPYDATA.
>I just ask because some people have strange ideas :)
Yes, I do sometimes <g>
>AFAIK D1 can build apps for Win3.1(1), running on 80386 and above
>(and compatible).
>(No idea if it allowed to build 80286 code or work without
>coprocessor)
Thanks
Peter
Peter Richards
Thanks to everyone for your input and help with D1. I have managed to
purchase a D4 Pro, at a very good price, so now I will have D1 in a
little while.
I know D1 is being considered for the museum, but if it's on the "2do'
list, I'll be left waiting, and this project needs to proceed.
Thanks,
Peter
Kevin Frevert
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>(see
> http://www.revelation.com).