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Lord Crc

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Jul 7, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/7/00
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On Sat, 8 Jul 2000 01:17:18 +0200, "TheSource" <DSou...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>I am trying to make a program to log in to Hotmail.com account and let me
>know if there are new messages waiting for me.. ;)

I would setup a spy and watch what Outlook Express does, but i dunno
if thats 100% legal

- Asbjørn

TheSource

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Jul 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/8/00
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Hello EveryOne! :)

I am trying to make a program to log in to Hotmail.com account and let me
know if there are new messages waiting for me.. ;)
I know many people with a lot Of Accounts in Hotmail, and it is a Real pain
to check them all manually...
I really don't know how to do it - anyone done it already / Has an Idea?

Any Comment will be very welcomed! :)

TIA,
TheSource
-==-=-=-=-=

Stuart Urquhart

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Jul 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/8/00
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A packet sniffer

TheSource

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Thank you, That might work.
The Question is where can I get a good Packet Sniffer from. ; )

Stuart Urquhart <empero...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> A packet sniffer
>
>

Alexander Mueller

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AFAIK, Outlook just "simulates" a webbrowser and gets the particular
data by sending the appropriate http requests.

Alex
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Alexander Mueller

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TheSource wrote:
>
> Thank you, That might work.
> The Question is where can I get a good Packet Sniffer from. ; )

Take a look at http://www.winfiles.com

TheSource

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Jul 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/8/00
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Ok.
I tried to do the following:
I looked at Hotmail.com (On the HTML code)
then, I found out that there should be a POST request with the Login Name
And Password.
So, Using ICS, I tried to do that Request:
Buffer = "login=Name&passwd=Pass&enter=Sign+in";
and then send the request as POST.
the problem is that I got the "Hotmail Please re-enter your password" page
instead of getting into the account.
Can you try to do it yourself and then tell me what is wrong?
That is a very interesting issue. ; )

TIA,
TheSource
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Alexander Mueller <al...@gmx.at> wrote in message
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> TheSource wrote:
> >
> > Hello EveryOne! :)
> > I am trying to make a program to log in to Hotmail.com account and let
me
> > know if there are new messages waiting for me.. ;)
> > I know many people with a lot Of Accounts in Hotmail, and it is a Real
pain
> > to check them all manually...
> > I really don't know how to do it - anyone done it already / Has an Idea?
> >
> > Any Comment will be very welcomed! :)
> >
> > TIA,
> > TheSource
> > -==-=-=-=-=
>
> AFAIK, Outlook just "simulates" a webbrowser and gets the particular
> data by sending the appropriate http requests.
>

Alexander Mueller

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Jul 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/8/00
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TheSource wrote:
>
> Ok.
> I tried to do the following:
> I looked at Hotmail.com (On the HTML code)
> then, I found out that there should be a POST request with the Login Name
> And Password.
> So, Using ICS, I tried to do that Request:
> Buffer = "login=Name&passwd=Pass&enter=Sign+in";
> and then send the request as POST.
> the problem is that I got the "Hotmail Please re-enter your password" page
> instead of getting into the account.
> Can you try to do it yourself and then tell me what is wrong?
> That is a very interesting issue. ; )
>
> TIA,
> TheSource
> -=-=-=-=-=-=

Your Buffer looks like a GET request, but you said it requires a POST
request. So you probably have to include the data into the http header.

TheSource

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Jul 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/8/00
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mmmm
How would you do it?
I did (in general, something like that):

String Buf = "login=Name&passwd=Pass&enter=Sign+in";
TMemoryStream *DataOut = new TMemoryStream;
HttpCli1->ContentTypePost = "application/x-www-form-urlencoded";
DataOut->Write(Buf.c_str(), Buf.Length());
DataOut->Seek(0, soFromBeginning);
HttpCli1->SendStream = DataOut;
HttpCli1->RcvdStream = NULL;
HttpCli1->URL = " https://lc1.law5.hotmail.passport.com/cgi-bin/dologin ";
try
{
HttpCli1->Post();
}
except(TRUE)
{
DataOut->Free();
HttpCli1DocEnd(NULL);
// ShowMessage("Problem");
return;
}

void __fastcall TForm1::HttpCli1DocBegin(TObject *Sender)
{
HttpCli1->RcvdStream = new TFileStream("C:/Test2.txt", fmCreate);
}

__fastcall TForm1::HttpCli1DocEnd(TObject *Sender)
{
HttpCli1->RcvdStream->Free();
HttpCli1->RcvdStream = NULL;
}

Now ,Try doing what needed (the post request - look at the HTML code of
hotmail.com and see what should be put in the request).
Then, tell me if it worked, and what was wrong. ;)
That is very weird. ;)


TIA,
TheSource
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Alexander Mueller

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Jul 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/8/00
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TheSource wrote:
>
> mmmm
> How would you do it?

Well, I am sorry but I havent ever worked ICS yet and so I have no clue
what to do. The best way is probably really to run a sniffer which shows
you what Outlook Express sends and what it receives.

TheSource

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Jul 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/8/00
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Well - It may be the way, but:
I can't seem to find a Good Sniffer that could actually tell me what OutLook
does...
Do you know a good Sniffer + how to use it to find out what OutLook does ?

Alexander Mueller

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TheSource wrote:
>
> Well - It may be the way, but:
> I can't seem to find a Good Sniffer that could actually tell me what OutLook
> does...
> Do you know a good Sniffer + how to use it to find out what OutLook does ?

I know a good one, but cant remember the name :). I will search at
winfiles.com.

Alexander Mueller

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Alexander Mueller wrote:
>
> I know a good one, but cant remember the name :). I will search at
> winfiles.com.

Sorry havent found it. But I believe its name is NetAnalyzer. However I
found two others.

http://digilander.iol.it/ItaAto/mpsnif.html
http://www.ufasoft.com/sniffer/

Maybe one of those will help you.

TheSource

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I took a look on those Sniffers...
The problem is that I can't understand what OutLook Express does from what
those Snifferes produce...
I feel Lost in space...

Can you understand the way it should be done, using the snifferS?


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Alexander Mueller

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TheSource wrote:
>
> I took a look on those Sniffers...
> The problem is that I can't understand what OutLook Express does from what
> those Snifferes produce...
> I feel Lost in space...
>
> Can you understand the way it should be done, using the snifferS?
>

I will take a look at the programs.

Alexander Mueller

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Jul 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/8/00
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TheSource wrote:
>
> Let me know if you find out the answer. ;)


http://digilander.iol.it/ItaAto/mpsnif.html

This one is unfortunately a little bit buggy and I couldnt see how to
use it.


http://www.ufasoft.com/sniffer/

This one seems to do his job. Try it.

Alexander Mueller

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TheSource wrote:
>
> I tried it... ;)
> It is nice, traces All input\OutPut packets... ;)
> But what do I do with that Information ? ?? :)
Analyze it and try to understand what Outlook sends and receives.

TheSource

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Jul 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/9/00
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Let me know if you find out the answer. ;)
Alexander Mueller <al...@gmx.at> wrote in message
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> TheSource wrote:
> >
> > I took a look on those Sniffers...
> > The problem is that I can't understand what OutLook Express does from
what
> > those Snifferes produce...
> > I feel Lost in space...
> >
> > Can you understand the way it should be done, using the snifferS?
> >
>
> I will take a look at the programs.
>

TheSource

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I tried it... ;)
It is nice, traces All input\OutPut packets... ;)
But what do I do with that Information ? ?? :)

Alexander Mueller <al...@gmx.at> wrote in message
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> TheSource wrote:
> >
> > Let me know if you find out the answer. ;)
>
>
> http://digilander.iol.it/ItaAto/mpsnif.html
>
> This one is unfortunately a little bit buggy and I couldnt see how to
> use it.
>
>
> http://www.ufasoft.com/sniffer/
>
> This one seems to do his job. Try it.
>
>

Gregor Ibic

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Jul 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/9/00
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Time ago I started to write SuperMail that does this thing.

You have to login with http client (Winshoes or ICS) and use SSL protocol
https.

Look at the form's fields and do the post like is it done with web browser.

Regards,
Gregor Ibic


Alexander Mueller <al...@gmx.at> wrote in message

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> TheSource wrote:
> >
> > Hello EveryOne! :)
> > I am trying to make a program to log in to Hotmail.com account and let
me
> > know if there are new messages waiting for me.. ;)
> > I know many people with a lot Of Accounts in Hotmail, and it is a Real
pain
> > to check them all manually...
> > I really don't know how to do it - anyone done it already / Has an Idea?
> >
> > Any Comment will be very welcomed! :)
> >
> > TIA,
> > TheSource
> > -==-=-=-=-=
>
> AFAIK, Outlook just "simulates" a webbrowser and gets the particular
> data by sending the appropriate http requests.
>

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