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Ivan

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Jul 12, 2007, 12:00:54 PM7/12/07
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Hi all.

What I have to do to send SSL GMail emails using TIdSMTP + TIdMessage in
Delphi5 + Indy 10.0.76?

Emails to smtp servers without SSL is going well.

Thanks in advance.

Ivan


Remy Lebeau (TeamB)

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Jul 12, 2007, 1:57:35 PM7/12/07
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"Ivan" <sist...@iginfo.com.br> wrote in message
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> What I have to do to send SSL GMail emails using TIdSMTP + TIdMessage

Please go to http://www.deja.com to search Borland's newsgroup archive, or
go to Indy's newsserver to look at past messages. Detailed steps to
communicate with GMail have been posted several times before.

> Indy 10.0.76?

That is a very old version. Make sure to upgrade to the latest 10.1.6
snapshot in order to use the official OpenSSL DLLs, not Indy's custom DLLs.


Gambit


Ivan

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Jul 12, 2007, 2:02:32 PM7/12/07
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Do You know where can I get the latest 10.1.6 ?


"Remy Lebeau (TeamB)" <gambit47...@no.spam.yahoo.com> escreveu na
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Remy Lebeau (TeamB)

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Jul 12, 2007, 5:29:34 PM7/12/07
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"Ivan" <sist...@iginfo.com.br> wrote in message
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> Do You know where can I get the latest 10.1.6 ?

From Indy's website, of course:

http://www.indyproject.org/Sockets/Docs/Indy10Installation.EN.aspx


Gambit


Andrew Jameson

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Jul 12, 2007, 6:16:10 PM7/12/07
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"Remy Lebeau (TeamB)" <no....@no.spam.com> wrote in message
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I too have had problems with finding where to download Indy and what version
is actually the latest stable release ... I used the link that you provided
and ended up at :

http://www.atozed.com/indy/plus/Files.EN.aspx

... where I find version 10.1.5 ... so where is 10.1.6 and is it a stable
release ?

Andrew


Remy Lebeau (TeamB)

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Jul 12, 2007, 6:23:11 PM7/12/07
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"Andrew Jameson" <softspots...@SPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
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> I used the link that you provided and ended up at :
>
> http://www.atozed.com/indy/plus/Files.EN.aspx

Then you did not use the link I provided. The very first thing it says is
"Download source from the Development Snapshot", which links to
"http://www.indyproject.org/Sockets/Download/DevSnapshot.EN.aspx", which has
no link to AToZed's download page.


Gambit


Ghia

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Jul 13, 2007, 4:37:11 AM7/13/07
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Oh Yes, He folowed your link. But then he arrives at :
http://www.indyproject.org/Sockets/Download/DevSnapshot.EN.aspx
and what you see and read there, is very confusing and is certainly not
encouraging to start downloading.
----------------------quote----------------


DevSnapshot

Warning

You are being warned. This will provide you with a direct link into our
current development files. At various times the files may not compile,
or in some cases may cause strange errors. Use at your own risk! However
please see the version specific notes below.

*
Bubelen - Generaly quite stable.
*
Indy 9 - The Indy 9 snapshot is generaly quite stable and you
should not encounter problems unless you happen to be lucky and
synchronize in the middle of a checkin. Indy 9 is a stable code
base in the cold molasses phase. Only bug fixes, critical changes,
and low impact additions are performed.
*
Indy 10 - Relatively stable and is in the jell-o phase. Most times
most of it works, but from time to time does not compile because
of current work in progress.

----------------------endquote-------------
When you read something like that, you start thinking: This can't be
right! Am I supposed to use this (alpha software?) for my production
software?
So you check out the download section and you come to the indy 10 page:
http://www.indyproject.org/Sockets/Download/Files/Indy10.EN.aspx
There you have the choice between the snapshot (and then you come back
again to the pages I descibed here in the previous paragraphe), or the
automatic install at Atozed.
The latter is more thrustworthy and so you come on the Atozed site by
following your link.

In stead of snapshots, the website of Indy should release a subversion
eg 10.1.5 (like shipped in D2007) or 10.1.6 in a package, which has the
promise of to work and to compile always.
I believe Indy 10 is now after years of development mature enough to
deserve something better then a daily snapshot.
And as some works in progress becomes finished, it releases a new
subversion, where then this and that feature is added.
If there are bugs, they should be changed in the released subversion and
become automatically part of the work in progress.

Also there is nothing on these download pages that indicates that the
SSL libs are changed from a custom made for Indy to the general purpose
ones on the official open SSL site, or which Indy version matches with
which library version. This should be marked clearly in the download
section and the SSL FAQ.
http://www.indyproject.org/Sockets/SSL.EN.aspx

My conclusion is that when the website of Indy was able to propose a
stable and thrustworthy release of Indy 10, you wouldn't need to repeat
yourself so often to convince people downloading the latest version.

PS.
- I mentioned the 10.1.5 from D2007 here as an example for a released
version, but I'm not sure if this is a version without problems.
Did CodeGear pick also some 'lucky' (snap)shot?
I for myself, wasn't able to use it with SSL and so far no one else
indicated that they could.
news://newsgroups.borland.com:119/468b...@newsgroups.borland.com

- I called Indy 10 'alpha software', but that's not my appreciation of
Indy 10 itself, but rather a classification, you give by reading: 'Most
times most of it works, but from time to time does not compile'

- I read on the Indy site that they are looking for a web designer:
http://www.indyproject.org/WebMasterWanted.EN.aspx IMHO, they don't need
design, (the current one will do for me) but content, that adapts to and
documents the current status of the Indy ('sockets') project. (What in
my opion was better called just plain Indy or Indy for Delphi in stead
of Indy.Sockets, which gives a lot of confusion when you arrive the
first time on the Indy Home page: http://www.indyproject.org/index.en.aspx )

- And last but not least, many thanks for all the great help, you
provide here daily. Much appreciated!!!

Regards,
Gerard.

Remy Lebeau (TeamB)

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Jul 13, 2007, 4:42:05 AM7/13/07
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"Ghia" <Ghia_n...@GHia.BE> wrote in message
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> - I mentioned the 10.1.5 from D2007 here as an example
> for a released version, but I'm not sure if this is a version
> without problems.

10.1.5 is outdated. There have been quite a few architectural changes
inside Indy's internals between 10.1.5 and 10.1.6. Support for the official
OpenSSL DLLs being one of them, but there have been others.


Gambit


Andrew Jameson

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Jul 13, 2007, 7:11:57 AM7/13/07
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"Remy Lebeau (TeamB)" <no....@no.spam.com> wrote in message
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I tried to convey my confusion; which was supported by Ghia ... it's all too
clear that the LATEST declared stable release is 10.1.5 and this is only
arrived at by moving to AtoZed's site ... and other links relate to snapshot
project downloads ... there needs to be a direct link to the latest stable
release, thereby removing all of this ensuing uncertainty as to what we're
actually required to download and a link to development history would be
useful.

Andrew


Andy

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Jul 15, 2007, 3:36:04 PM7/15/07
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Hi Remy,

I still don't know where to get version 10.1.6 after reading. Only 1 mirror
was available
to download but the files were dated back to 2002. Am I not looking at the
right place?
I appreciate your help.

Thanks

Andy

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Remy Lebeau (TeamB)

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Jul 16, 2007, 2:07:53 PM7/16/07
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"Andy" <an...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> I still don't know where to get version 10.1.6 after reading.

I already told you where to get it from. Go to
http://www.indyproject.org/Sockets/Docs/Indy10Installation.EN.aspx and
follow the link for the "Development Snapshot".

> Only 1 mirror was available to download

Use the Fulgan.com mirror.

> the files were dated back to 2002.

No, they are not. The development snapshot is updated on the mirror every
day. The current date of the .zip file is yesterday (July 15th, 2007), and
most of the files insde of it are much newer than 2002.

> Am I not looking at the right place?

Obviously not.


Gambit


Andrew Jameson

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Jul 16, 2007, 3:35:13 PM7/16/07
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I'm getting more confused than ever about the distribution / development of
Indy and associated links. It seems a shame that there isn't a definitive
stable build, then maybe a beta version and maybe development snapshots.
I'd get shot if I used development snapshots in a product which is why we
use 10.1.15 ... actually due to exactly these problems, we migrated most of
development to a couple of other products.

Perhaps you could explain why it is that there isn't a latest stable release
version and associated development history ... and why are the download
locations / links so obscure ?

Andrew


Remy Lebeau (TeamB)

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Jul 16, 2007, 3:59:45 PM7/16/07
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"Andrew Jameson" <softspots...@SPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
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> I'm getting more confused than ever about the distribution / development
> of Indy and associated links.

There is only 1 active version being developed right now - the 10.1.6
development snapshot. Ignore all other versions. They are out of date.

> I'd get shot if I used development snapshots in a product
> which is why we use 10.1.15 ...

Then you are not using the latest version, so you don't have the latest bug
fixes and features.

> Perhaps you could explain why it is that there isn't a latest
> stable release version

Because nobody has had any time to release one.


Gambit


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