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Another Delphi 6/7 Bug: Multimonitor support

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Rudy Velthuis (TeamB)

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Sep 18, 2003, 4:14:09 PM9/18/03
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Dr Sigmund Mohammad wrote:

>
>
> I am using Delphi right now, with two monitors, primary monitor IDE and
> form designer, secondary monitor, code editor.
>
> Everytime I compile my program, the Code Explorer jumps to the second
> monitor. This has been a problem since Delphi 6. Doesn't anybody at
> Borland (or Borland Quality Control) have a workstation with more than
> one monitor then?
>
> Is there any other workaround, other than turning off Code Explorer?
> Also, since I've run into this bug since D6, why hasn't it been fixed?

See QC #1789. It seems not to happen too often since I only see 4
ratings, and no votes. I can't help you any further, sorry.

But you may want to ask in the appropriate group, which is the
borland.public.delphi.ide group, since your chances of a useful answer
are much higher there.

Followup set.
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Luigi D. Sandon

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Sep 18, 2003, 4:47:11 PM9/18/03
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There is the project manage too exhibiting a strange behaviour, columns
cannot be resized but in the primary monitor. I understand developers using
more than one monitor are not the majority, therefore it's obvious there are
only a few ratings and no votes. Anyway minor bugs should make the "fix
list" if they are simple enough to fix. Otherwise there will be the same
bugs in several versions of Delphi, i..e the code explorer that resets the
scrollbar the first time is clicked. It's there sice D5 or D4, I do not
remember. I can live with it, but gives a feeling of poor quality.
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Dave Nottage (TeamB)

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Sep 18, 2003, 5:43:42 PM9/18/03
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Rudy Velthuis (TeamB) wrote:
> See QC #1789. It seems not to happen too often since I only see 4
> ratings, and no votes.

FWIW, I can't reproduce it.

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Robert Brock

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Sep 18, 2003, 11:11:09 PM9/18/03
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Why people feel the need to subject themselves to twice the radiation AND
have to turn their heads is beyond me.. Try a Virtual Desktop, ever since
Window$ screwed Matrox out of implementing a driver level solution,
something about active desktop, I've been using this one by Enable
Software.. I can see M$ saying 'Ya, if we nerf driver level virtuals, we can
get them all to have FOUR monitors on every desktop! Quick, call the monitor
makers!!'

You can setup easily FOUR desktops, and once you setup the rules for what
you want where, it works 99.5% of the time.. Just move the mouse to the edge
of the screen and you're off to the next desktop, the icons appear in all
four.. I have the Delphi IDE and Code editor in upper left, object inspector
lower right, all forms lower left and all datamodules and fields/params,
ISQL or the running app in upper right.. Works well.. Also, I've got
Ctrl-Alt-Arrows setup to move to the various desktops without having to
mouse at all..

http://www.enablesoftware.com/
Enable Virtual Desktop...
Its somewhat old, but still works under XP no problem..

Rob

Frank Andreas de Groot

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Sep 19, 2003, 3:53:33 AM9/19/03
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"Rudy Velthuis (TeamB)" <rvel...@gmx.de> wrote in message news:xn0d3g4hw9r19e01rrudyspc@none-8cxr845nph...

>
> See QC #1789. It seems not to happen too often since I only see 4
> ratings, and no votes. I can't help you any further, sorry.

The IDE has a lot of problems with multi-monitor.
Some windows refuse to be on certain monitors, others will appear but refuse to resize, or parts disappear.
The fact that it has 4 votes does not mean that every person with multi-monitor hasn't got problems with the IDE..
MM support is a basic thing for Enterprise-level dev. software, but it seems the Delphi developers do not have MM..

Ray Andrews

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Sep 19, 2003, 11:26:06 AM9/19/03
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Try using two monitors for development, and you will find it hard
to go back to a single monitor. There are lot's of nice virtual desktop
programs out there, but it's still better to have the larger desktop space.

With two, you can have your code on one monitor, and your form &
designers on another. You actually see the whole form at once and don't
have to flip desktops all the time. I've used dual monitors on every
machine I've worked on since 98 came out, and never had a problem.
Also, I've never used any of the multimonitor cards, always just used
dual graphics adapters.

Not trying to make a sales pitch, but it's something everybody should
try just to see how much it helps.

"Robert Brock" <No...@Nowhere.Net> wrote in message news:3f6a...@newsgroups.borland.com...

D Whaley

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Sep 19, 2003, 4:23:33 PM9/19/03
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It's very funny that QC is always mentioned. Like, if it had a 1000 votes it
would get fixed.
Nothing gets fixed anymore, it seems to be Borlands new policy. I remember
when patches would come out every few months or so. NO software is perfect
and Delphi is definitely no exception, yet the "Powers that be" seem to be
content with letting us spend hundreds, even thousands of dollars and then
just live with the problems. I am really getting very frustrated myself. I
switched to Delphi from VB about 6 years ago for this very reason. All you
get are excuses and hair splitting instead of real solutions.

So if you have to ask "Is this gonna be fixed" the answer is "Maybe in
Delphi 8, but maybe not."

Rudy Velthuis (TeamB)

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Sep 19, 2003, 7:26:19 PM9/19/03
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D Whaley wrote:

> It's very funny that QC is always mentioned. Like, if it had a 1000
> votes it would get fixed.
> Nothing gets fixed anymore, it seems to be Borlands new policy.

Nonsense.
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Rudy Velthuis (TeamB)

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Nick Hodges (TeamB)

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Sep 20, 2003, 12:38:09 AM9/20/03
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On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 15:23:33 -0500, "D Whaley"
<dwh...@hs-technologies.com> wrote:

>I remember
>when patches would come out every few months or so.

I don't -- when did this happen?


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Nick Hodges (TeamB)

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Sep 20, 2003, 11:18:37 AM9/20/03
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On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 19:03:46 +1000, Jon Tveten <jont...@telstra.com>
wrote:

>Delphi 3.---

Every couple of months? How many did that end up being?

My point is I think the comment was an exaggeration. And it is a
gross exaggeration to say that Borland doesn't fix bugs.

William Meyer

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Sep 20, 2003, 9:53:35 PM9/20/03
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On 20-Sep-03, Nick Hodges (TeamB) said:

> > Delphi 3.---
>
> Every couple of months? How many did that end up being?
>
> My point is I think the comment was an exaggeration. And it is a
> gross exaggeration to say that Borland doesn't fix bugs.

I believe that he said "every few months" in the prior claim, but I
only recall one patch for D3, and suspect he may instead be remembering
the embarrassing flurry of packs for D4.

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Bill
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Nick Hodges (TeamB)

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Sep 21, 2003, 1:26:04 AM9/21/03
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On 20 Sep 2003 18:53:35 -0700, "William Meyer"
<wmhme...@SPAMearthlink.net> wrote:

>I believe that he said "every few months" in the prior claim, but I
>only recall one patch for D3, and suspect he may instead be remembering
>the embarrassing flurry of packs for D4.

Point being --

Borland fixes bugs, just like they always have.

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