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Chris Lepsenyi

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Dec 9, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/9/98
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I am looking for a C++ Manual and cannot decide between these two
books: The C++ Programming Language 3rd Ed by Bjarne Stroustrup and
C++: The Complete Reference by Herbert Schildt.

I would appreciate some input and opinions on which is better and why.

Thanks

Robert N. Lockwood

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Chris Lepsenyi wrote:

I think there are reviews on amazon.com and on
http://home.pacbell.net/rmfci/

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Dale Leung

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Dec 9, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/9/98
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Not to attack the guy, but I've never heard anything good about Schildt.


> I am looking for a C++ Manual and cannot decide between these two
> books: The C++ Programming Language 3rd Ed by Bjarne Stroustrup and
> C++: The Complete Reference by Herbert Schildt.
>

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Jody Hagins (TeamB)

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On Wed, 09 Dec 1998 11:05:12 -0600, Chris Lepsenyi <chris.l...@cucs.com>
wrote:

>I am looking for a C++ Manual and cannot decide between these two
>books: The C++ Programming Language 3rd Ed by Bjarne Stroustrup and
>C++: The Complete Reference by Herbert Schildt.
>

>I would appreciate some input and opinions on which is better and why.


Why not get both, scan/read them adn take back the one you don't want. I do
this all the time since there are so many books out that I don't like.
However, I do not think you will be able to do it after a few days. I
usually give myself about 3-4 days to look a book over really well. Then I
decide whether it's a keeper.

BTW, Stroustroup invented C++, so you probably can't go wrong with anything
by him...


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Edward Diener

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Stroustrup's book is for more advanced C++ programmers. No offense to
Herbert Schildt, who writes well, but I would also recommend C++ Primer
but Stanley Lippman and Josee Lajoie. For most C++ programmers I believe
the Lippman-Lajoie book is best of all.

Chris Lepsenyi wrote:

> I am looking for a C++ Manual and cannot decide between these two
> books: The C++ Programming Language 3rd Ed by Bjarne Stroustrup and
> C++: The Complete Reference by Herbert Schildt.
>
> I would appreciate some input and opinions on which is better and why.
>

> Thanks


Jason Cone

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Chris Lepsenyi wrote:
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> I am looking for a C++ Manual and cannot decide between these two
> books: The C++ Programming Language 3rd Ed by Bjarne Stroustrup and
> C++: The Complete Reference by Herbert Schildt.
>
> I would appreciate some input and opinions on which is better and why.
>
> Thanks

I haven't read the Schildt book, but the Stroustrup book is excellent --
the best pure C++ book I've read thusfar.

Rob Allen

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Dec 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/10/98
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In article <366ED7ED...@abraxis.com>, Edward Diener
<eddi...@abraxis.com> writes

>Stroustrup's book is for more advanced C++ programmers. No offense to
>Herbert Schildt, who writes well, but I would also recommend C++ Primer
>but Stanley Lippman and Josee Lajoie. For most C++ programmers I believe
>the Lippman-Lajoie book is best of all.


I concur with this assessment. Every C++ programmer should have
Stroustrup and also "(More) Effective C++". These are not learning
books though.

I haven't got Lippman-Lajoie, but have only ever heard good things about
it.

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Jonathan Arnold

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> I am looking for a C++ Manual and cannot decide between these two
> books: The C++ Programming Language 3rd Ed by Bjarne Stroustrup and
> C++: The Complete Reference by Herbert Schildt.

You have to define where you are as a C++ programmer and what you are looking
for. Most C++ books have a pretty narrow aim as far as audience goes.

Irregardless of that, you probably should have the Stroustrup book on your
bookshelf, as that is the "Bible" of C++ programming. It's not really for
learning C++, although it does go through it completely.

Other C++ books that I recommend are

Thinking in C++ by Bruce Eckel. While the current version of the book is
dated, it is still very useful when coming from another programming language,
especially C. You can download and read the 2nd edition as a work in progress
from http://www.bruceeckel.com/

C++ How to Program, 2nd edition by Deitel and Deitel - a really complete and
easy to follow book on learning C++ programming, from scratch. See
http://www.deitel.com for more info

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Kent Reisdorph (TeamB)

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Dec 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/10/98
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>>the Stroustrup book is excellent --
the best pure C++ book I've read thusfar.

Agreed, but it reads like a technical manual (which it is).

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Rich Webb

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On Wed, 09 Dec 1998 11:05:12 -0600, Chris Lepsenyi
<chris.l...@cucs.com> wrote:

>I am looking for a C++ Manual and cannot decide between these two
>books: The C++ Programming Language 3rd Ed by Bjarne Stroustrup and
>C++: The Complete Reference by Herbert Schildt.
>

>I would appreciate some input and opinions on which is better and why.

There is a good review of Schildt's attempt to explain ANSI C at

http://www.lysator.liu.se/c/schildt.html

Probably would be a good idea to review this before spending any hard
earned cash.

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Patrick Bennett

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Dec 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/11/98
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"Kent Reisdorph (TeamB)" <ke...@turbopower.com> wrote:

>Agreed, but it reads like a technical manual (which it is).

Yes - The latest edition is quite good, although I can't say the same for the
first edition. I didn't care too much for it.

To whomever first asked (Chris?), be sure you get a recent printing! It's
already gone through 5 or 6 printings, and early copies are filled with LOTS of
errors (mainly in sample code).

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Harold Howe [TeamB]

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Dec 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/12/98
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> I am looking for a C++ Manual and cannot decide between these two
> books: The C++ Programming Language 3rd Ed by Bjarne Stroustrup and
> C++: The Complete Reference by Herbert Schildt.

Stroustroup is the bomb. Schildt rides the gravy train. I say get
Stroustroup.

Harold Howe [TeamB]
http://www.bcbdev.com

Alan Gauld

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Dec 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/15/98
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> Stroustrup's book is for more advanced C++ programmers.

Agreed, If you know C++ ad want the defoinitive word on
the ANSI version buy Stroustrup. If you want a general
intro to C++ that isn't in the Dummies category go for
Lippman.

I can only comment on Schildt's C Reference book which
I used for many years when programming in C. It was very
good for one step up from beginner. Nowadays I tend to
go to K&R for C questions and Stroustrup for C++.

Lippman (2nd ed) was my best source for learning C++ tho'.

Alan g.

Alan Gauld

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Dec 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/15/98
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Patrick Bennett wrote:
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> "Kent Reisdorph (TeamB)" <ke...@turbopower.com> wrote:
>
> >Agreed, but it reads like a technical manual (which it is).
>
> Yes - The latest edition is quite good, although I can't say the same for the
> first edition. I didn't care too much for it.

The 1st edition was possibly the worst C++ book I've ever
read - but at the time it was the only C++ book you could read!

The 2nd and 3rd editions are orders of magnitude better.

Alan G.

Patrick Bennett

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Dec 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/16/98
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Alan Gauld <alan....@gssec.bt.co.uk> wrote:

>The 1st edition was possibly the worst C++ book I've ever
>read - but at the time it was the only C++ book you could read!

I was naively expecting the first edition to be similar to K&R. Boy was I
wrong!! ;>

>The 2nd and 3rd editions are orders of magnitude better.

Absolutely no question... The third edition has been a pretty good read.

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On Wednesday, December 9, 1998 at 9:00:00 AM UTC+1, Chris Lepsenyi wrote:
> I am looking for a C++ Manual and cannot decide between these two
> books: The C++ Programming Language 3rd Ed by Bjarne Stroustrup and
> C++: The Complete Reference by Herbert Schildt.
>
> I would appreciate some input and opinions on which is better and why.
>
> Thanks

I have Herbert Java and C# complete reference and they are very good and a must have for serious programmers, but am now having the same issue between those two for c++.
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