Re: Want a funny wallpaper ?
Q Correll
Whatever the attachment payload was in your post it crashed XanaNews. Hard!
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Q
07/23/2008 20:49:49
XanaNews Version 1.17.5.7 [Q's Salutation mod]
David HAROUCHE
>> Hard!
That's only a tv snow animated gif, I find it cool to do that using ScanLine
....
DH
Q Correll
| That's only a tv snow animated gif, I find it cool to do that using
ScanLine ....
XN does "do" animated gifs. <g>
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Q
07/24/2008 10:54:09
Q Correll
| XN does "do" animated gifs. <g>
does NOT "do" <sigh>
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Q
07/24/2008 13:54:13
JBR
> David,
>
> Whatever the attachment payload was in your post it crashed XanaNews. Hard!
Would be better as a screensaver.
(BTW, MesNews has no problem displaying it)
David HAROUCHE
DH
David HAROUCHE
That's not what I want to do
>> It also shows that there is a security problem in XN that should be
>> adressed.
What is XN ?
DH
David HAROUCHE
So the screen saver stays travelling through stars...
DH
Pieter Zijlstra
It is a newsreader which is used by a lot of people here.
XN = XanaNews see http://www.wilsonc.demon.co.uk/xananews.htm
There is also a bit more recent "unofficial" version:
http://xananews.techtips.com.br/
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Pieter
Q Correll
| What could be a ScanLine algorythm ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scanline_rendering
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Q
07/25/2008 08:53:17
Q Correll
| Only dbl clicking it causes a problem in xn.
Not in my version. Just encountering and displaying the message crashed
this version. I had to delete the message from my database.
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Q
07/25/2008 08:55:46
Q Correll
| (BTW, MesNews has no problem displaying it)
Animated gifs are a known problem with the graphics display component that
XanaNews uses.
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Q
07/25/2008 08:53:47
Q Correll
| What is XN ?
Abbreviation acronym for XanaNews.
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Q
07/25/2008 08:57:53
Pieter Zijlstra
> Only dbl clicking it causes a problem in xn.
> The img in the posting itself has no issues other than that it isnt
> animated.
Well it destabilizes XN 1.18.1.9 and eventually generates AVs.
> Normally animated img's that are shown in a viewer that cannot show
> animated img's won't cause any problems.
Maybe the version I have is trying to animate it but uses the wrong
TGifImage version which can cause AVs.
Just looked it up...
XN is using the one from 2001.07.23 with mods by Finn Tolderlund
There is a later version (2007.01.18) available which should work
better for animated gifs: http://www.tolderlund.eu/delphi/
> It also shows that there is a security problem in XN that should be
> adressed. But as i understand it, Colin Wilson isn't actively
> developing xn at the moment.
He popped-up a while ago (February) but since then he's been very quiet
:(
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Pieter
David HAROUCHE
DH
David HAROUCHE
James Bond
Marco Caspers
> Marco Caspers wrote:
>
> > Only dbl clicking it causes a problem in xn.
> > The img in the posting itself has no issues other than that it isnt
> > animated.
>
> Well it destabilizes XN 1.18.1.9 and eventually generates AVs.
Ah ok, i'm using the last version Colin made, 1.18.1.6
> > Normally animated img's that are shown in a viewer that cannot show
> > animated img's won't cause any problems.
>
> Maybe the version I have is trying to animate it but uses the wrong
> TGifImage version which can cause AVs.
That's a probability indeed.
<snip>
<snip>
> He popped-up a while ago (February) but since then he's been very
> quiet :(
He's probably up until his elbows in work, if not worse.
I've noticed the last 6 months for me where kinda "hell".
Normally there used to be short periods where you had to work "25"
hours a day, but for the most you had enough time to do other things.
But now, even when it is vacation time over here and with the open
support cases at an all time low, there's still so much work to do that
i sometimes forget to eat my lunch or go home on time....
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Q Correll
| He popped-up a while ago (February) but since then he's been very quiet
| :(
He's busy working with a <deleted> new <deleted> product.
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Q
07/25/2008 11:13:46
David HAROUCHE
DH
Pieter Zijlstra
> What is Xanal?
>
Howdie 007
You, as an intelligent person, should know that this kind information
can be easily found by using Google. I think the following page which
clearly states what Xanal means:
http://mv.lycaeum.org/anagrams/PARALINGUA.cgi?article=Xanal
The language used should be no problem for you, but I can understand
you don't have time to do the translation yourself, ask Miss
Moneypenny, she'll love to do the job for you.
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Pieter
Pieter Zijlstra
> > He popped-up a while ago (February) but since then he's been very
> > quiet :(
>
> He's probably up until his elbows in work, if not worse.
> I've noticed the last 6 months for me where kinda "hell".
> Normally there used to be short periods where you had to work "25"
> hours a day, but for the most you had enough time to do other things.
>
> But now, even when it is vacation time over here and with the open
> support cases at an all time low, there's still so much work to do
> that i sometimes forget to eat my lunch or go home on time....
Maybe you're just spending too much time in these NGs ;-)
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Pieter
Pieter Zijlstra
> Pieter,
>
> > He popped-up a while ago (February) but since then he's been very
> > quiet :(
>
> He's busy working with a <deleted> new <deleted> product.
Q,
Thank you for allowing me to use my imagination about what Colin is
doing at the moment. If my imagination is right, he doing an
interesting "job", hopefully he isn't deleting too much. It sounds
better than him "wasting" his time playing on-line games ;-)
What would be the proper way to join the club?
PS I waited a moment before replying, to give you a chance to get some
work done <g>
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Pieter
Pieter Zijlstra
> Pieter Zijlstra wrote:
>
> > Well it destabilizes XN 1.18.1.9 and eventually generates AVs.
>
> Works for me. No animation though, but no crashes.
That's not fare, you're using 1.18.1.11 ;-)
Is that version available somewhere?
What version of TGifImage are using at the moment?
BTW I might have send a bug report. No idea where it was send to ;-)
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Pieter
Leonel
> Well it destabilizes XN 1.18.1.9 and eventually generates AVs.
Works for me. No animation though, but no crashes.
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Leonel
Leonel
> That's not fare, you're using 1.18.1.11 ;-)
>
> Is that version available somewhere?
Only source in in the SVN server.
> What version of TGifImage are using at the moment?
Same as ever. Didn't change it.
> BTW I might have send a bug report. No idea where it was send to ;-)
To Colin. I never customized that part.
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Leonel
Q Correll
| Works for me. No animation though, but no crashes.
I haven't visited for quite a while. Is the .11 code base on your site?
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Q
07/25/2008 19:06:03
Q Correll
| PS I waited a moment before replying, to give you a chance to get some
| work done <g>
Thanks. ;-)
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Q
07/25/2008 19:04:45
Q Correll
| Only source in in the SVN server.
I should have read ahead. <g>
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Q
07/25/2008 19:07:52
Marco Caspers
Hehe, definitly <g>
But i got vacation right now, so it's ok ...
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Leonel
> I'm a lazy bastard and normally just go for the easy installs/zip
> files ;-)
Not enough time right now to gather a changelog and do an official
unnoficial release but here it is if you are interested:
http://xananews.techtips.com.br/files/XanaNews-1.18.1.10.zip
> > > What version of TGifImage are using at the moment?
> >
> > Same as ever. Didn't change it.
>
> What's stopping you?-)
Time, mostly. I guess I should just remove the references to the one in
there, use the newer version that comes with D2007 and rebuild it.
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Leonel
Pieter Zijlstra
> Pieter Zijlstra wrote:
>
> > I'm a lazy bastard and normally just go for the easy installs/zip
> > files ;-)
>
> Not enough time right now to gather a changelog and do an official
> unnoficial release but here it is if you are interested:
>
> http://xananews.techtips.com.br/files/XanaNews-1.18.1.10.zip
I tried that one in March but as you know an "undocumented feature"
sneaked in regarding article colors in the message tree and I went back
to 1.18.1.9.
> > > > What version of TGifImage are using at the moment?
> > >
> > > Same as ever. Didn't change it.
> >
> > What's stopping you?-)
>
> Time, mostly.
That seems to be a general problem with developers, we need longer days!
;-)
> I guess I should just remove the references to the one
> in there, use the newer version that comes with D2007 and rebuild it.
Downloaded the whole lot from the SVN trunc and replaced GIFImage with
Finn's newer version... et voila, version 1.18.1.11 is running :)
Thanks!
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Pieter
Leonel
> > http://xananews.techtips.com.br/files/XanaNews-1.18.1.10.zip
I meant:
http://xananews.techtips.com.br/files/XanaNews-1.18.1.11.zip
> I tried that one in March but as you know an "undocumented feature"
> sneaked in regarding article colors in the message tree and I went
> back to 1.18.1.9.
Yeah - .11 has that feature reverted. :)
> Downloaded the whole lot from the SVN trunc and replaced GIFImage with
> Finn's newer version... et voila, version 1.18.1.11 is running :)
Sounds good. Crash is gone?
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Leonel
Q Correll
| Downloaded the whole lot from the SVN trunc and replaced GIFImage with
| Finn's newer version... et voila, version 1.18.1.11 is running :)
Cool!
Do animated GIFs now work?
If so, I may have to finally break down and update to Leonel's 1.18.1.11.
I've been using 1.17.5.7 since I made a mod to it on July 10, 2005. <g>
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Q
07/26/2008 15:01:09
Pieter Zijlstra
> > I tried that one in March but as you know an "undocumented feature"
> > sneaked in regarding article colors in the message tree and I went
> > back to 1.18.1.9.
>
> Yeah - .11 has that feature reverted. :)
>
> > Downloaded the whole lot from the SVN trunc and replaced GIFImage
> > with Finn's newer version... et voila, version 1.18.1.11 is running
> > :)
>
> Sounds good. Crash is gone?
Yes, no more crashes on OPs "animated" gif.
> Pieter Zijlstra wrote:
>
> > > http://xananews.techtips.com.br/files/XanaNews-1.18.1.10.zip
>
> I meant:
>
> http://xananews.techtips.com.br/files/XanaNews-1.18.1.11.zip
Ah, tried that one as well, also no crashes. The only difference is
that it does not display the gif the first time after starting XanaNews.
If you go to another post and then back, it is displayed.
Do you see the same?
"My" version with the updated GIFImage.pas displays it directly.
Just to try it out, I also made the change by replacing GIFImage with
CodeGear's GIFImg. It compiles without problems and can also display
the gif directly.
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Pieter
Pieter Zijlstra
> Pieter,
>
> > Downloaded the whole lot from the SVN trunc and replaced GIFImage
> > with Finn's newer version... et voila, version 1.18.1.11 is
> > running :)
>
> Cool!
>
> Do animated GIFs now work?
Well yes and no. It does not crash on them anymore but they are only
drawn ones, directly, so no animation.
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Pieter
Q Correll
| Well yes and no. It does not crash on them anymore but they are only
| drawn ones, directly, so no animation.
Pieter,
Yeah,... that's the same symptom I've always had, even with TGIFImage.
I built a new XN. I'm not quite sure if I got Leonel's latest change or
not. I may have missed it by a couple of minutes. <g>
In anyevent, I'm finally off of my old 1.17.5.7 of July 10, 2005. <g> I
also made my change to the MainForm so I can read the text in its frame.
The first thing I don't care for is I can't seem to move the toolbar
buttons around. <g> Nor can I add separators.
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Q
07/26/2008 16:28:27
XanaNews Version 1.18.1.11 [Leonel's & Q's Mods]
Q Correll
| Do you really want animated GIFs which are actually animated?
Not in XanaNews. <g>
However, I have an app where I wanted to use an animated gif and couldn't
get it to work.
| Hmm, strange.
That's what I thought since Leonel went to the trouble to add what
appeared to be a full-functioning toolbar. I haven't asked him about it
yet. There are a couple of other nits I'd like to pick but overall it
seems to be working well.
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Q
07/27/2008 11:09:15
Pieter Zijlstra
> Pieter,
>
> > Do you really want animated GIFs which are actually animated?
>
> Not in XanaNews. <g>
Maybe animation should be an option?-)
Well actually the gif is already animated (also in your version), it is
just that the underlying control (MessageDisplay) is not informed of
the changing bitmap. Move another window over XanaNews so that it needs
to refresh the MessageDisplay contents. If you look carefully you'll
see that the image is not always the same (I know difficult to see with
that specific gif :).
> However, I have an app where I wanted to use an animated gif and
> couldn't get it to work.
The original version of TGIFImage stopped working on D7 (or was it
D6?), there was a deadlock in the painting thread. Later versions were
fixed and improved. The previous link to Finn's version works fine
under D7-D2007. There is also one included in D2007 by CodeGear, this
one is called GIFImg. However in this version animation is switched off
by default, you'll have to turn it on by setting Animate to True.
> That's what I thought since Leonel went to the trouble to add what
> appeared to be a full-functioning toolbar.
I can move the toolbar(s) around and can add splitters to it. What and
where are you trying to do it?
> There are a couple of other nits I'd like to pick but
Like what?
> overall it seems to be working well.
Indeed :)
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Pieter
Q Correll
| There is also one included in D2007 by CodeGear, this
| one is called GIFImg. However in this version animation is switched off
| by default, you'll have to turn it on by setting Animate to True.
Thanks. I'll take another look at it when I get a round tuit. I honestly
do not remember the problem(s) I was having at the time last year.
| Like what?
1) - In earlier versions of XN if I had a reply open I could just move the
cursor to the right over the message view pane and click on the scroll-bar
area and the reply window would automatically minimize. (I have my display
arranged so that the reply window just fills the message view window
except for showing the message view pane scroll-bar.) Now I have to move
the cursor to the little-tiny-itsy-bitsy "-" square button on the reply
windows frame to minimize it.
2) - I often have a couple of other things open on the desktop, almost
always at least two instances of WindowsExplorer. Now some actions (I
haven't yet paid attention to what specific actions.) cause XN to not be
the most "forward" top display and another app/WE instance displays over
XN. Annoying.
[I just noticed that it happens as I closed this reply before posting. So
I opened the reply to edit and added this info. <g>]
Did you notice I was able to get the salutation again displaying at the
top of the reply where it properly belongs? <g> I had to add my old
change form about three years ago to get it to happen. How did you get it
to happen? I think I'm missing or have forgotten something. <g>
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Q
07/27/2008 14:37:48
Jamie Dale
"Q Correll" <qcor...@pacNObell.net> wrote in message
news:4888a055$1...@newsgroups.borland.com...
> David,
>
> Whatever the attachment payload was in your post it crashed XanaNews.
> Hard!
Works perfectly in Outlook Express..
Jamie Dale
"David HAROUCHE" <met...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4887...@newsgroups.borland.com...
> Just stretch this GIF on your desktop...
Very good.... I liked it ;)
Had some fun scaring my GF too!
Q Correll
| Works perfectly in Outlook Express..
<g>
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Q
07/27/2008 16:23:11
David HAROUCHE
>> you don't have time to do the translation yourself, ask Miss
>> Moneypenny, she'll love to do the job for you.
That was my job at Borland France...
DH
For Your Eyes Only...
Pieter Zijlstra
> Q Correll wrote:
> > 2) - I often have a couple of other things open on the desktop,
> > almost always at least two instances of WindowsExplorer. Now some
> > actions (I haven't yet paid attention to what specific actions.)
> > cause XN to not be the most "forward" top display and another app/WE
> > instance displays over XN. Annoying.
> >
> > [I just noticed that it happens as I closed this reply before
> > posting. So I opened the reply to edit and added this info. <g>]
>
> Yes that is annoying, it happens when the reply windows closes.
Well actually after the spelling-checker form closes.
Quick and "dirty" fix when not using Vista, set MainFormOnTaskBar back
to False in the dpr file.
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Pieter
Pieter Zijlstra
> 1) - In earlier versions of XN if I had a reply open I could just
> move the cursor to the right over the message view pane and click on
> the scroll-bar area and the reply window would automatically
> minimize. (I have my display arranged so that the reply window just
> fills the message view window except for showing the message view
> pane scroll-bar.) Now I have to move the cursor to the
> little-tiny-itsy-bitsy "-" square button on the reply windows frame
> to minimize it.
It probably did not minimize but just disappeared behind the main form.
You can get this behaviour back by changing the following in
PostMessageForm.pas
===================
Line 509:
---------
procedure TfmPostMessage.CreateParams(var params: TCreateParams);
begin
inherited CreateParams(params);
params.ExStyle := params.ExStyle or WS_EX_APPWINDOW;
params.WndParent := Application.Handle; // <= add this line
end;
> 2) - I often have a couple of other things open on the desktop,
> almost always at least two instances of WindowsExplorer. Now some
> actions (I haven't yet paid attention to what specific actions.)
> cause XN to not be the most "forward" top display and another app/WE
> instance displays over XN. Annoying.
That requires the following changes:
NewsReader2.dpr
===============
MainFormOnTaskBar back to True (if you had changed it).
PostFrame.pas
=============
Line 120:
---------
if not cbCheckSpelling.Checked or
(CWSpellChecker1.CheckAndShowModal(skipFirstLine) = mrOK) then
<change to>
if not cbCheckSpelling.Checked or
(CWSpellChecker1.CheckAndShowModal(Owner as TCustomForm, skipFirstLine)
= mrOK) then
Line 332:
---------
CWSpellChecker1.CheckAndShowModal(skipFirstLine);
<change to>
CWSpellChecker1.CheckAndShowModal(Owner as TCustomForm,
skipFirstLine);
cmpCWSpellChecker.pas
=====================
Line 15:
--------
function CheckAndShowModal(SkipFirstLine: boolean) : Integer;
<change to>
function CheckAndShowModal(PopupParent: TCustomForm; SkipFirstLine:
boolean) : Integer;
Line 26:
--------
function TCWSpellChecker.CheckAndShowModal(SkipFirstLine: boolean):
Integer;
<change to>
function TCWSpellChecker.CheckAndShowModal(PopupParent: TCustomForm;
SkipFirstLine : boolean) : Integer;
Line 44:
--------
<add>
fmSpellChecker.FormStyle := fsNormal;
fmSpellChecker.PopupParent := PopupParent;
fmSpellChecker.PopupMode := pmExplicit;
<before>
result := fmSpellChecker.ShowModal
I still need to try this on Vista to see if everything works OK.
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Pieter
Q Correll
| It probably did not minimize but just disappeared behind the main form.
Hmmm,... But I could get it back by clicking on the button in the TaskBar.
Sure seemed to be minimized to me. <g>
Thanks for the code! I'll investigate when I get a moment to get back to
messing with XN.
[A few seconds later...]
"NewsReader2.dpr" Shouldn't that be NewsReader3.dpr?
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Q
07/28/2008 15:48:33
Pieter Zijlstra
> Pieter,
>
> > It probably did not minimize but just disappeared behind the main
> > form.
>
> Hmmm,... But I could get it back by clicking on the button in the
> TaskBar. Sure seemed to be minimized to me. <g>
>
> Thanks for the code! I'll investigate when I get a moment to get
> back to messing with XN.
>
> [A few seconds later...]
>
> "NewsReader2.dpr" Shouldn't that be NewsReader3.dpr?
Yes, typo. I hope there aren't anymore in the previous post ;)
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Pieter
Q Correll
| Yes, typo. I hope there aren't anymore in the previous post ;)
I'll let you know if I find any more. ;-)
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Q
07/28/2008 22:50:13
Pieter Zijlstra
> Q Correll wrote:
>
> > 2) - I often have a couple of other things open on the desktop,
> > almost always at least two instances of WindowsExplorer. Now some
> > actions (I haven't yet paid attention to what specific actions.)
> > cause XN to not be the most "forward" top display and another app/WE
> > instance displays over XN. Annoying.
>
> I still need to try this on Vista to see if everything works OK.
Tested it on Vista, it works the same as on XP, focus now correctly
returns to the main window after the spelling-checker and post window
are closed.
There was just one tiny irritation left. When I pressed OK in the post
window and the spelling-checker form popped up it looked like the post
window disappears for a moment (pushed back behind the main window) and
then the spelling-checker pulls it back to the front again. On XP it
was just a short flash, on Vista it was a bit more noticeable.
Cause and fix (SpellCheckerForm.*)...
The FormStyle of fmSpellChecker originally was fsStayOnTop, in the
changes posted before I "fixed" that by setting it back in the source
to fsNormal just before the form was shown. This caused the above
flicker. When you set the FormStyle to fsNormal at design-time the
flickering will be gone.
> That requires the following changes:
>
> [snipped]
> Line 44:
> --------
> <add>
> fmSpellChecker.FormStyle := fsNormal;
remove above line again and set FormStyle of fmSpellChecker at
design-time to fsNormal.
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Pieter
Leonel
so, can you email me a .patch? :)
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Leonel
Leonel
> of course, should I just zip the modified files or do you want it any
> other way?
A patch file would be ideal (TortoiseSVN->Create Patch on tortoise,
other clients should have the option somewhere). Modified files are ok
if you can't create a patch file for some reason.
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Leonel
Pieter Zijlstra
>
> so, can you email me a .patch? :)
of course, should I just zip the modified files or do you want it any
other way?
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Pieter
Pieter Zijlstra
I hope I've removed enough dots from your email address (about 2), if
so, you should have an email with the patch file ;)
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Pieter
Leonel
> I hope I've removed enough dots from your email address (about 2), if
> so, you should have an email with the patch file ;)
Got it thanks.
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Leonel