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sheji ramkumar

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Aug 30, 2010, 6:17:21 AM8/30/10
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Today I came saw a tribe carrying plants similar to that of Tinospora cordifolia,without looking to the leaves it was difficult to differentiate .
 
Differences i could note are-
  *stem much thicker than AMRUTHA
  *leaves thick and hairy
  *smell also different
  *younger stem hairy
 
awaiting expert opinion about its identification and properties
 
sheji
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reshmi pushpan

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Aug 30, 2010, 6:46:45 AM8/30/10
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Dear Sheji,

Please check the below mentioned link on Tinospora sinensis. The decription in this paper resembles the plant you have posted.Lets wait the opinion from others.

http://www.zoosprint.org/ZooPrintJournal/2004/September/1622-1623.pdf

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sheji ramkumar

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Aug 30, 2010, 6:50:10 AM8/30/10
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Thank you Reshmi for a correct link, this is also called as pothan amruth.
 
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reshmi pushpan

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Aug 30, 2010, 6:53:04 AM8/30/10
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Is this used as a substitute for chittamruthu there, Sheji?

sheji ramkumar

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Aug 30, 2010, 7:08:52 AM8/30/10
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Don't know Reshmi,we take drugs from calicut raw drug merchants, in that we can find such big ones.they could be this Tinospora sinensis. Let us wait for others comments.
 
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Dr. Hari Venkatesh.K.Rajaraman

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Aug 30, 2010, 8:51:17 AM8/30/10
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Dear Sheji ji & Reshmi ji, this plant is Tinospora malabarica... a commonly found adulterant of T. cordifolia...


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sheji ramkumar

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Aug 30, 2010, 9:11:14 AM8/30/10
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Thank you Hari ,how to differentiate Tinospora malabarica from sinensis

sheji

Dr. Abraham MD

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Aug 30, 2010, 1:37:01 PM8/30/10
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Dear Sheji, The plant is Tinospora malabarica, plz see the link
http://ayurvedicmedicinalplants.com/plants/492.html

sheji ramkumar

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Aug 31, 2010, 12:07:50 AM8/31/10
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Thank you Abraham ji
 
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sheji

shahul hameed

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Aug 31, 2010, 12:50:47 AM8/31/10
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T. Malabarica is experimentally proved to be more potent antipyretic than T. cordifolia.

reshmi pushpan

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Aug 31, 2010, 12:55:43 AM8/31/10
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Are T.sinensis, T.tomentosa &  T. malabarica the synonyms of a single plant or are they different species?

sheji ramkumar

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Aug 31, 2010, 1:05:01 AM8/31/10
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Thank you Shahul ji for further details.
 
Sheji

Dr. Hari Venkatesh.K.Rajaraman

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Aug 31, 2010, 3:38:50 AM8/31/10
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Adding up a few more photos of Tinospora malabarica....
Thank you Shahul ji for further details...
Tinospora malabarica - tender leaf.jpg
Tinospora malabarica - same tender leaf on a different day.jpg
Tinospora malabarica - leaf.jpg
Tinospora malabarica - branch.jpg
Tinospora malabarica - Stem.jpg
Tinospora malabarica - Immature fruits.jpg
Tinospora malabarica - fruits.jpg

Dr. Hari Venkatesh.K.Rajaraman

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Aug 31, 2010, 4:45:41 AM8/31/10
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Dear Reshmi ji...
Of course T.sinensis, T.malabarica & T.tomentosa are synonyms.....
Well there are a few confusions with flora of China, Pakistan etc., which am unable to follow... Taxonomists may clarify it better....
There is another source for Guduchi in some regions, which is Tinospora crispa...

sheji ramkumar

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Aug 31, 2010, 6:44:40 AM8/31/10
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Thank you Hari for further clarification & photos
 
regards 
sheji 

suhas karanth

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Sep 2, 2010, 11:55:39 AM9/2/10
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sir is Tinospora malabarica is called as ಮಂಗನ ಬಳ್ಳಿ in kannada???????

Dr. Hari Venkatesh.K.Rajaraman

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Sep 2, 2010, 1:31:24 PM9/2/10
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Yes Suhas ji... T.malabarica is  of course called as Mangana balli in Kannada... Due to its tendency to grow and climb faster on trees and reaches greater heights like monkeys (Manga in Kannada).. Hence the name.

hema lata

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Sep 2, 2010, 9:52:26 PM9/2/10
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does this plant has similar properties as T.cordifolia??

paramkusha rao

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Sep 3, 2010, 2:13:15 AM9/3/10
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i feel it is T. malabarica. If may be synonymous of T. sinensis? i do not know. Vatasadhani (fodder of a calf) relates this species. It is as equal as T.cordiflia therapeutically

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Dr. Arvind Kadus

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Sep 3, 2010, 10:57:20 AM9/3/10
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Some days before I have collected some cuttings to make plants from
it. At the time of collection there were no leaves on the climber. I
collect it by thinking of T. cordifolia. After germination well the
leaves appears different, large, having tomantose on it, light in
colour as compare to cordifolia. I made lot of saplings for
cultivation but they are T. sinensis. Any way as Shahul Hameed saying
that this sp. is more potant than cordifolia we can use this plant
instead of T.cordifolia.
Thanks for sharing.
Dr. Kadus Arvind,Pune.
On Sep 3, 11:13 am, paramkusha rao <paramku...@gmail.com> wrote:
> *i feel it is T. malabarica. If may be synonymous of T. sinensis? i do not
> know. Vatasadhani (fodder of a calf) relates this species. It is as equal as
> T.cordiflia therapeutically*
> *
> *
> *sincerely
> *

Dr. Hari Venkatesh.K.Rajaraman

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Sep 3, 2010, 1:33:04 PM9/3/10
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Thank you Paramkusha ji for mentioning the term Vatsadhani for T.sinensis. Gangadhara's commentary to charaka samhita mentions about a drug called Padma guduchi (पद्म  गुडूची)  , and many scholars are of the opinion that Padma Guduchi is this plant T.malabarica (Syn:T.sinensis, T.tomentosa)

Dr. Hari Venkatesh.K.Rajaraman

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Sep 4, 2010, 1:47:34 AM9/4/10
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Sheji ji... T.cordifolia can be differentiated from that of T.sinensis with the following Microscopic characters

 

Tissue

T.cordifolia

T. sinensis

1.

Sclerenchymatous sheath

Become disintegrated into scattered irregular patches in the cortical region

Broken into areas capping the vascular bundle and remain persistant even after further screening growth

2

crystals

absent

A large crystal of calcium oxalate is present within the lumen of each cork cell

3

Mucilage cells

more

Less

4

Vascular strands

fewer

More in number

5

xylem

Well developed, in each strip of vascular strand

Poorly developed

6

pith

Very narrow & composed of thin walled cells

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7

Starch content

more

Comparatively poor

sheji ramkumar

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Sep 4, 2010, 3:28:25 AM9/4/10
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Thank you Hari
 
sheji

suhas karanth

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Sep 4, 2010, 9:55:21 AM9/4/10
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thank you sir
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