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J. Falkink

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Oct 25, 2009, 6:16:23 AM10/25/09
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Dear Spiders

My question might look a bit weird but perhaps together you are inventive. I
have this rather technical diagram with a tree in the centre:
http://bobbinwork.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/doc/class-diagrams2.gif

Please stay with me, I don't expect you to understand the full technical
implications of this diagram, but you will recognise familiar terms at the
bottom of the tree: pin, stitch, cross, twist and diagram. You can ignore
the loose blocks at both sides, my question is about the tree in the middle,
even just about the bold face words in the top of the boxes. These words
lack spaces, they have capitals where a new word starts, that is a
programming convention.

May be you can help me for better terminology for the rest of the tree.
Though I'm working for years with this diagram I'm still mixing up some of
the terms I chose, so I hope there are better alternatives, the shorter the
words the better. Some hints to help understand the purpose of the tree: You
can divide and subdivide a diagram in various types of sections/partitions
with different an similar properties. As opposed to a section with just a
pin, we have sections that do represent threads, so that is why I picked
MutlipleThreadsPartions. A cross and twist are about a single pair, so these
form a group oppesed to partitions that are about multiplre pairs such as
stitches. A group is typically something like a spider, snowflake or a
cloth-stitch motif in flanders or binche. Don't we have a better word than
just a group? And do we have a word that can mean both stitch and group? In
a colorcoded diagram a stitch is represented as one cross in one color (if
we forget the twistmarks). What I called a ChainedPairsPartition consitst of
multiple crosses that might or might not have differet colors. Where a
ChainedPairsPartition contains more than one cross, a MultiplePairsPartition
can be one or more. Writing this: I have one (a stitch), more (chained), one
or more (multiple); not very logical.

Clear as mud? Please reply to the group as the fantasy or questions of one
can trigger the fantasy or knowledge of another.

Jo

Xara

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Oct 26, 2009, 4:07:25 AM10/26/09
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Dear Spiders,

i am not sure wether i use an already preassigned term, when i suggest
motif for the current term group.

Thinking in terms of the set theory i would suggest simple the term set
or stitch set for a single stitch or group/motif.

I don't know wether this is the right place or if it is in another part
of the definitions. I miss the single thread, the gimp.

Greetings
Christa

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J. Falkink

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Oct 26, 2009, 3:51:26 PM10/26/09
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Hi Christa

Motif is not yet preassigned. I hesitate about it as for example in Binche
lace a snowflake is not a motif, but a sbowflake is a group in my model. On
the other hand, I skipped buying part three of Ulrike's "viele gute grunde"
as in my opinion it is more about repeated motives than about grounds. So it
is a vague term. At least it is more lace related than "group".

A group is not a set. A set would have one cloth sticth, one half stitch,
one fixing stitch (ctctc), one for each shape a tally can take etc. More or
less the toolbar between the tree view and the diagram. By the way. I'm
about to replace the toolbar by another mechanism, if you checked out the
project as a developer see:
src/test/java/nl/BobbinWork/viewer/gui/Redesign.java

If you examine the expanded xml file for the flanders diagram (just before
it is turned into a diagram:
http://code.google.com/p/bobbinwork/source/browse/trunk/src/main/java/nl/Bob
binWork/diagram/xml/DiagramBuilder.java?r=383#148)
you will see the same group over and over again. I don't think that looks
like the mathematical set idea.

You don't see the gimp because I did not yet implemented it. Too complicated
for this phase of the project. Picot's and knots, adding pairs and throwing
them out again are also not yet designed.

Jo

> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----


>
> Dear Spiders,
>
> i am not sure wether i use an already preassigned term, when
> i suggest motif for the current term group.
>
> Thinking in terms of the set theory i would suggest simple
> the term set or stitch set for a single stitch or group/motif.
>
> I don't know wether this is the right place or if it is in
> another part of the definitions. I miss the single thread, the gimp.
>
> Greetings
> Christa
>
> J. Falkink schrieb:
> > Dear Spiders
> >
> > My question might look a bit weird but perhaps together you are
> > inventive. I have this rather technical diagram with a tree
> in the centre:
> > http://bobbinwork.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/doc/class-diagrams2.gif
> >

> > ...

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