510 For Sale, real nice, orange, salvage title, 68K

[Jordan B]

https://marketplace.510forsale.com/listing/datsun-510-1414931

Jordan B

[da...@datsuns.com]

Damn…

 

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Subject: [Bluebird510] 510 For Sale, real nice, orange, salvage title, 68K

 

https://marketplace.510forsale.com/listing/datsun-510-1414931

 

Jordan B

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[Jordan B]

Rear anti-sway bar and no front bar sounds like a real handful to me, wonder if they ever have it out on a track?

Jordan B

[dhal...@yahoo.com]

Maybe I could thin the herd a bit at these rates. Anyone really want a good title, never dented, never scratched, rust free 2 door? Oh, and lots of parts to complete them, like most of the rubber and L series engines, 5 speeds, and so on to complete. No Troy Ermish special stuff either. I have a couple, but alas they aren't CalTrans orange, and they are in Idaho not LA. 

Dennis

[Kelvin Dietz]

There are some who advocate for tuning the suspension with springs alone. Does that apply here, or was it difficult to find a swaybar for the front and who's gonna notice?

 

I liked an adjustable rear bar.  Full tight for autocross,  full loose for the street.  The spring rates were correct, too. 

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[Jordan B]

Yeah guessing that with rack and pinion steering, and  front sump oil pan, finding a front bar isn't easy.

I liked my rear bar for auto-x as well, then I took it to a track day and even the instructor couldn't keep it pointed the right way. Fun times when he loops it showing me the way through the chicane. Disconnected a link and then it was much more manageable.

Jordan B

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[Ted Hedman]

Like Jordan said, it's harder to fit a front bar with an SR swap, but there are a few OTS solutions now such as MadDat and Futofab. I drove my NA SR car w/o a front bar at Thunderhill and it was a real handful. Entertaining, but felt like it was only a matter of time before I'd loop it, but never did. Fortunately, Michael was able to deliver a  MadDat bar to me the next day at Shasta. I fit it in the parking lot, and was off to the races after that. That was 200hp. Personally, I would consider an SR20DET 510 with 250+ hp a road hazard w/o a front bar. Unfortunately there's too many running around out there like that. They handle great on the straights, though. I'm pretty sure those who prefer to tune with springs run at least front bar.

[Kelvin Dietz]

Look at that oil pan.  Nobody makes a swaybar to clear that 

[Brock Johnson]

I don't understand why anyone would put this amount of time and money into a project to turn around and sell it. 

Maybe it was too much of a handful, maybe it didn't drive like they imagined. 

I've seen numerous people who get an old car, dump a bunch of money into it and then are disappointed that it drives like an old car. They were in love with the style, but not the reality of having and maintaining a 50yo vehicle. 

I wonder which applies?

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Rear Wheel Drive, the way God intended.
If a car is being pulled from the front, doesn't that mean it's being towed?

I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

[dhal...@yahoo.com]

I read that the latest $4 million Ferrari uses electrically controlled shocks instead of sway bars. Maybe that's what is there, then maybe that's why its for sale too.

On my Formula Ford the roll center and CG are nearly on the same axis and the sway bar only needs to be about 3/8". Maybe just raise the control arm pivots about a foot and it'll work....

Some assembly required.....

The whole wrong motor discussion was exactly about this so long ago. If the swap doesn't  drive better, it's wrong.

Dennis

[da...@datsuns.com]

“The whole wrong motor discussion was exactly about this so long ago. If the swap doesn't  drive better, it's wrong.”

 

Accurate! Also “drive better” is in the seat of the driver, not necessarily a widespread view. I have probably the most wrong motor 510 on this list, and while *I* love the car I am not under the delusion that most 510 guys would enjoy driving it, because it really doesn’t drive anything  like a tossable,  lightweight L-powered 510.

Putting a lot of time and money into your own vision of a 510 doesn’t guarantee you’ll get even 50% of that back when it’s time to sell. But also to Brock’s point I have no idea how people put so much tine/effort into a car only to sell it later, unless it’s one of those ‘enjoy the build” types who want the challenge of a build and don’t really want to own whatever the final product is.

Dave

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[Thomas Dockery]

I truly enjoy these discussions; they reveal our genuine passions.

I must confess, I've experimented with various engines, brakes, suspensions, steering wheels, and tire options on several occasions. The 510 has always been a fantastic canvas for creativity, and the phrase "enjoy the build" resonates deeply with me. My street car projects have all been immensely enjoyable, and I'm glad I undertook each one. Nowadays, I spend most of my time with the 99% historically accurate B-Sedan racecar (it has CV half shafts). This experience has inspired me to consider a Brock Buster replica with a 2-liter plus L engine for my next 510 street project.

Currently, I have another project in progress—albeit slowly—that is not the BB project. Instead, it's an extensively modified SR20DET 510 with reinforced cage, restructured body, rack and pinion steering, coil overs on all corners, a stripped interior, and disc brakes all around. I am passionate about this build, and although it may appear like an '80s period street 510 from 20 yards away, I'm aiming for it to drive like a Hoonigan.

Ultimately, I believe it's perfectly acceptable to build a car and then reflect, thinking, "I wish I had (or hadn't) done that."

Tom

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[da...@datsuns.com]

“it may appear like an '80s period street 510 from 20 yards away”
Bingo.  My latest changes had 2 primary goals
1. To a non-Datsun person, look like a fairly typical 510 (now featuring cartoon wheels).  I think I’ve counted 12 things that a 510 person would notice that a non-car person wouldn’t blink at as different from stock (Schiwsow didn’t even notice the fender flares until I pointed them out, for example)
2. Have 100% of the daily driver features off a bone-stock 510.  Wipers, heater, spare, rear seats, etc. because it will be driven in all seasons.

 

The 510 is an easy platform to work with, easier in some aspects that Carson’s NA Miata. If I had the space I’d have another 510 and keep it a 4-cylinder.

You have a build blog someplace on that build, Tom?

 

Dave

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[Thomas Dockery]

Hi Dave,

I don't a have build thread. The redefinition of my Orange 510 has been under the knife for the better part of 20 years. I am hoping to step up progress in 2026.  Maybe I post on IG then.

Tom

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