On Aug 12, 2021, at 5:00 PM, David Lum <da...@datsuns.com> wrote:
Anyone have details on this thing?
Twin Turbo Datsun 510 runs Mantic Clutch Twin Disc – Mantic Clutch USA
Dave
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Bumper over-riders. I think that is the
correct term. It seems most Dimers delete them, but I want them
for my cars.
While recently parsing some inventory, I noticed they came in at least three flavors:
1 - Symmetric for rear bumpers, as they mount to a relatively 'flat' arc.
2 & 3 - Left and Right for front bumper bits to better align with the more highly curved bumper.
The rubber absorber seems to be consistent
and universal.
I have about 20+ units here and this seems to be consistent for all USA production years ('68-73). I think I once observed these differences many years ago - but - as consistent with best recall methods, one must pay close attention. At the time, I probably just said, "Hey - look at that!" and never properly filed the observation.
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Dave,
No help on the clutch options but I must share my observations about that build.
I makes me think of the x-box Forza gamers in the naughties era (2004 - 2011+), where the 510 was the 2nd most popular vehicle due to the light rigid frame and available drive-train swaps, such as this 4-wheel drive setup.
I never touched an x-box but had younger
friends who advised me as to the Dime status when I'd pull up to
their houses or places of employment.
I'd bet this record is true and readily
found online...
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Thanks for the note Dan.
All I've ever seen were chrome units. I
think solid rubber may be 73 or later year Datsun part?
Possibly a swap? Not sure.
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+1 on the all rubber ones on '73s only. Pretty sure the bumper laws changed for USA model year 1973. '73 911s also sprouted similar rubber boobs. Then in '74 the 5mph impact bumpers were mandated.
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“Bumper Guard Rails”. I always called these overriders. AMCO sold these, but they were also sold at dealers with a Nissan p/n:
Datsun 510 Accessories for '72 (6 of 6)
Looks like the chrome and rubber (or all rubber) jobs were called “Bumper Guards” in the Datsun accessory brochure, though clearly they are referred to as “overriders” In the 510 parts catalog:
Datsun 510 Front Outside (Sedan) (carpartsmanual.com)
AMCO Ad:
https://datsun510.com/index.php?/gallery/image/4500-amco-510-accessories/
Sorry to say none of them would have helped with my recent Bambi encounter, though if was daily driving a 510 and had to park on the street often, I would install the ’73 rubber baby buggy bumpers…or perhaps a set of ‘roo guards.
-Ted
PS- Zeke, after an hour of some amateur paintless dent removal, and installation of a spare bumper.
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Ten sets? That's 40 pieces. Wow. I only
have 24. All have some level of damage and/or rust.
These bits do offer a crude and minimally
effective mechanism at very low speed to prevent bumper of car
with equivalent height from 'over-riding' and impacting the
body. They line up well with those police cruiser pushers.
<g>
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Big rubber boobs were '73 only. And the bumpers were very
different, as were the bumper mounts. Three holes on the frame
rail instead of two.
I actually have a '73 bumper in decent shape. Gotta have the
brackets to use it, though. I do not.
Kelvin
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“Bumper Guard Rails”. I always called these overriders. AMCO sold these, but they were also sold at dealers with a Nissan p/n:
Datsun 510 Accessories for '72 (6 of 6)
Looks like the chrome and rubber (or all rubber) jobs were called “Bumper Guards” in the Datsun accessory brochure, though clearly they are referred to as “overriders” In the 510 parts catalog:
Datsun 510 Front Outside (Sedan) (carpartsmanual.com)
AMCO Ad:
https://datsun510.com/index.php?/gallery/image/4500-amco-510-accessories/
Sorry to say none of them would have helped with my recent Bambi encounter, though if was daily driving a 510 and had to park on the street often, I would install the ’73 rubber baby buggy bumpers…or perhaps a set of ‘roo guards.Â
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On Aug 16, 2021, at 4:09 PM, Ward Hill Press <ward...@rcn.com> wrote:
The AMCO overriders (also called granny bars back then) were on a few of my cars. Here in NYC everyone uses the Hellen Keller method of parking (Google Hellen Keller if you don't know who she was). On one car I switched to the '73 big rubber bumper guards. IIRC I had to switch to a sturdier bumper support braclets. I don't remember if I had to drill the front bumper or buy a '73 bumper. My 240Z had those AMCO bars, the front one saved me from many hood repairs, although I had to pull it out to open the hood after parking in Manhattan. That was with Defensive Parking: Parking, with the car out of gear and the hand brake on just a little.
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