019 Yellow or similar.

[Brock Johnson]

Does anyone know where I can find a single stage touch-up paint that either this or a very similar color? I need to touch up a small spot in the rocker of this car. Low on the rocker so doesn't need to be perfect. 

It was repainted at some point in the 80s and they did this on the rad support. No idea what any of that means except the 019 code.

Any help would be appreciated.

Brock 

[Alex Taylor]

I have used Route 66 for cans of color-matched paint. The 2K is a little spendy but the results are worth it (it’s catalyzed automotive paint in a spray can).

https://www.66autocolor.com/collections/spraymax-products/products/spray-max-2k-single-stage-aerosol-spray-paint

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[da...@datsuns.com]

Some early drives with the LHD SSS cluster and Speedhut gauges. Surely others with aftermarket gauges in any fashion have run into this issue – what have you done to solve it, or do you just live with it? There’s 0% chance I am going to live with it and I have a couple of idea on how to solve it, but no need to recreate the wheel if someone has come up with a solution.

Dave

[David Patten]

Dave,

There are products that apply to the surface of display monitors to reduce reflection. 

I found this as a possibility.

https://www.weetect.com/anti-glare-film/

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Subject: [Bluebird510] LHS SSS cluster glare

Some early drives with the LHD SSS cluster and Speedhut gauges. Surely others with aftermarket gauges in any fashion have run into this issue – what have you done to solve it, or do you just live with it? There’s 0% chance I am going to live with it and I have a couple of idea on how to solve it, but no need to recreate the wheel if someone has come up with a solution.

Dave

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[paolo]

Interesting question Dave L.  I have tried to deal with this in the past - for stock gauges.

My solutions included:

-  The LED instrument cluster upgrade with dimmer.  Can help in many situations, but not enough.
   Also requires active intervention - turn on markers.
-  A periodic cleaning with WD40, - surprisingly helps some but not great and high maintenance.
-  Anti-glare eye-wear - helps more often than not, but depended highly on sun angle.
-  Tinted windows - reduced glare the most under all circumstances.

Dave P's suggestion seems the way to go.  

This inspired me to research a bit.  This is a technical note you may enjoy:

https://ims.evidentscientific.com/en/applications/evaluating-the-anti-glare-property-of-a-speedometer-cover

I also found many products which you probably found as well.  Please share what approach you take and the effectiveness

Paolo_____

[Gary Savage]

I'd think ceramic window tint will help the most along with keeping you cooler in the car.  Made a big difference in my Dime! 

Gary Savage

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Some early drives with the LHD SSS cluster and Speedhut gauges. Surely others with aftermarket gauges in any fashion have run into this issue – what have you done to solve it, or do you just live with it? There’s 0% chance I am going to live with it and I have a couple of idea on how to solve it, but no need to recreate the wheel if someone has come up with a solution.

Dave

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[da...@datsuns.com]

Thanks Dave! I’ll try a sample. 

Dave

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[da...@datsuns.com]

I don’t think any of your listed fixes will help with the instance I am looking, except maybe the tinted windows which won’t help for glare from other angles. Maybe the eye wear…but I got Lasik long ago for a reason 😊

I have contacted the company Dave P suggested and will try that route.

OMG that technical article is a gem! Total nerd talk right up my alley. 5 stars!

Dave

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[paolo]

Dave,

5*.  Wow!

As I noted, application was stock gauges and no experiment was very effective, except the tint, which is only for side and rear glass.  I only tinted one car with a low quality J.C. Whitney product over 30-yrs ago.  It still helps.  Better products may be available today.

Sill, Lasic helps with clarity but not anti-glare.  Polarization is the best thing in eye-ware for that but I doubt that is an add-on Lasic option <g>.

Paolo_____

[Carter Boad]

“but I doubt that is an add-on Lasic option”

 

You wouldn’t want it if it was.

 

The windshield in my Bluebird uses polarized glass.

 

I have a pair of polarized sunglasses.

 

I put on the sunglasses while I was driving said car and the combo of looking through two polarized filters at the same time was like a whacked out disco trip.  And I’ve never even had a whacked out disco trip!  The glasses came back off like right now before I hit one of the cars in my kaleidoscope vision…

 

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[Gary Savage]

If you guys haven't tried ceramic tent on your cars, you really should. I did the sides and back on the 510 and had a brand new windshield, I was driving north just before sunset where the sun was shining directly in through the driver side window. While driving along, I felt absolutely no heat radiating on me and then when I turned left and faced towards the sun it was like an instant furnace where I started sweating with the heat coming through the windshield. Ceramic tint can block 90-99% (depending on type you choose) of the UVA and UVB raise and up to 80% of infrared heat, so that makes a huge difference.  After noticing such an extreme. Difference, I had the windshield done with a clear tint that still blocks out those rays. Well worth it in a car without air-conditioning, especially in Florida. 😅 The dash rarely gets more than just a little warm even when sitting out in the sun for hours.  Cool stuff, but it does cost twice as much as standard tint. 

Gary Savage

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[Ted Hedman]

Dave wants to reduce reflection (glare) from the gauge cover glass.

Best bang-for-the-buck is tilting the gauges to redirect specular reflections away from the driver's eye's. Unfortunately, there's going to be some pretty significant physical constraints in play, which Dave has apparently discovered. Also, this isn't going to help much if what you are complaining about is actually diffuse reflection (scatter) due to excessive surface abrasion.  Not likely with new gauges, though. 

Best cost-no-object solution to reduce specular glare is to have anti-reflection (AR) coatings applied to the cover glass, because it can both reduce reflection and increase transmission. Ask your optometrist to slip a few extra pieces of glass (from your gauges) into his next lens coating run. 

Next best might be AR film, if such a thing exists. I'd be skeptical of AR adhesive film and would want to test a sample before committing. Any adhesive likely needs to be index matching for best effectiveness. Non-adhesive film that is applied with an index matching liquid between the film and glass might also work. Test a sample first.

After that, you're pretty much left with diffusing films, which can knock down specular glare. However, drawbacks include increased scatter glare and reduced gauge legibility. This option should be relatively inexpensive, though.

Car window tints are meant to protect the occupants on the other side of the glass from the light source by increasing reflection and/or increasing absorption, both of which reduce overall transmission.  Increased reflection and reduced transmission are not what you want for your gauge cover glasses, but any means of attenuating visible light before it reaches your gauges, such as car window tinting, will attenuate gauge glare. 

-Ted 

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[dat...@aol.com]

David,

Is there any way to change the angle of the gauges, where you rotate them downward. The angle doesn’t need to be much.  Just enough to change the angle of reflection away from your eyes.  

As a test you could try to rotate the whole dash downward.  If it works you could see if you can change the mounting angle of each of the gauges in the dash.  

Chris

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Some early drives with the LHD SSS cluster and Speedhut gauges. Surely others with aftermarket gauges in any fashion have run into this issue – what have you done to solve it, or do you just live with it? There’s 0% chance I am going to live with it and I have a couple of idea on how to solve it, but no need to recreate the wheel if someone has come up with a solution.

Dave

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[da...@datsuns.com]

This was actually my plan B.   I have modified this dash to have my gauges about 3/4in “deeper” than how Gilson design created it (this puts them farther back to give a little more “OEM” look).  It should be fairly trivial to make each gauge angle be a couple of degrees different than now. In theory I could aim them all at my neck or any other lower focal point.

 

Dave

 

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