Gymnastic Bodies Foundation One 38
Evangelino Cousteau
If you are coming to the program with the mobility of a child and a reasonable level of relative strength then a year, or less, would be realistic. Otherwise I would argue that 'underlying issues' are the rule rather than the exception for the vast majority of adults, whether they know it or not. The good news is that, whatever your mobility/strength issues, foundation will go a long way towards rooting them out and forcing you to fix them.
I've still got a lot of work ahead of me but I've made tremendous progress (as far as I'm concerned at least), my biggest accomplishment so far as probably been getting the necessary shoulder mobility in H1. I'm overall stronger and more flexible than ever before and I owe that to Gymnasticbodies.
No I'm being totally honest, before I started F1 I could perform a full pancake, pike, handstand and shoulder dislocates, I did gymnastics and martial arts in college and have always made sure I had optimal mobility. Movement and mechanics are of great interest to me. Hollow body rocks PE6 endurance was the big one for me on F1.
In my honest opinion, you shouldn't feel bad at all... F1 deserves the time and discipline. F2 is slightly shorter than F1 and F3 and F4 are shorter still. To answer the original question, don't focus in the time it takes....just buy it because it's the best training you can do!...period!! You say you're not in a rush but subtle undertones suggest u r wiling to buy the foundation program by measuring yourself up to someone you don't know just because they did in a quick time frame. Even if you are mobile enough and strong enough...u still have to prove it on the course and forfill the requirements l that allow you to progress to the next stage.
There is four foundations and minimal time it takes to complete each is 6 months (4x6months = 2 years). Then there is possibility to make one mastery week and one deload week and that would half your time. But I don't really believe that there is someone who could do that unless he is already a graduate gymnast.
Sure, it might take that long if you start on week 1, block 1 for every element, but most people are going to be able to master exercises and advance faster and could start at week 5, block 2 for the same exercise or could test out of the movement entirely and move on to the next movement. No point hypothesizing how long it will take, you move at whatever pace YOU need to, could be slower or faster. Kids who started gymnastics at 5 aren't as good as they are at 20 for nothing. They took 15 yrs to build the body and skills. Just because we're adults, people tend to forget how long it takes to develop the body.
In contrast, because of the background in traditional gymnastic instruction, Gymnastic Bodies teaches strict gymnastic form for exercises, and has specific rules for moving from one progression to the next. This is a classic gymnastic teaching format used for decades by qualified gymnastic coaches. For some people, it can take years to achieve perfect gymnastic form for an exercise progression.
As much as he may have had some influence on how these movements came into the mainstream, bodyweight exercise has clearly been around forever, and the specific use of gymnastic style training for physical conditioning has a long tradition.
What we have here on GB is purely the strength and conditioning protocols and progressions used by Coach Sommer to produce outstanding athletes, minus the technical gymnastics skill training (which is where the whole 'Coach' part comes in). See the BtGB introduction for details.
Combine with the athletic pursuit of your choice (gymnastics, cirque, martial arts, whatever) for results par excellence. To me this is perfect; the Gbodies curriculum completely addresses my strength/conditioning needs in a time-efficient manner and affords me plenty of time to devote to technical training. Plus I get gymnastics strength skills and a bunch of fun along the way.
You can accomplish a) by using the courses he releases and asking questions as you go (ie. this board). You can accomplish b) by finding a gymnastics coach with a comparable competitive career, record in producing champion athletes, and length of time in the field.
I have no idea how ido trains. I do however know that several of his students have messages me asking me to help fill in holes in their program. Especially with regards to manna and the advanced planche progressions. I generally tell then that they should get foundation series and their questions will most likely be answered.
F1 and h1 is a complete program at first. Eventually you will get to the point where real skill work is possible for you to do. I'm going to speak in terms of gymnastics because that is what I know. If you can't do the holds in foundation one you will not be able to do pommel circles, will not have the stamina and control to do giants. You should also be reasonably good at handstand to tumble correctly.
With that said there is nothing wrong with enjoying what ever other physical endeavor you like. F1 does indeed work as a great supplement because you are building a foundation of strength you probably should have had in the first place. Enjoy the benefits a prepared body brings you!
Frankly, I'm surprised at the degree of negativity here. I believe the poster was not asking which program is better. He was simply asking what is the difference between the programs. They certainly have different reference points are are not trying to accomplish the same thing. I would have though we could all appreciate anyone trying to make people healthier and move more. Obviously if you're looking for gymnastics training, then the specificity of foundation is best for you. However that doesn't make it best for everyone. Let's have a positive discussion about the pros and cons of different training methods, and which people might be most benefitted from which activities.
If you're interested in (paraphrasing Yuri): "building a body that can handle the demands of gymnastics skill work" and building a truly strong and mobile body the Foundation and Handstand series are definitely the way to go.
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I've come across the courses gymnastics bodies offers and for some reason I feel they are better than any programs I've seen or been offered to me. I have checked the Foundation Series but I'm a little confused About what each course has to offer.
The Foundation series is a set of progressions that lead to seven 'basic' gymnastic strength moves: front lever, straddle planche, hollow back press, rope climb, side lever, manna and single-leg squat. F1 is the first set of progressions for each element, with each subsequent course continuing where the last left off. Think of Foundation as one big course while the individual F1-F4 are bite-sized pieces of that whole.
okay. You should ask the more experienced people for prehab/rehab and recovery suggestions, but seeing a doctor is the best option. I would highly suggest buying foundation even if you can't use right now, because there is great advice on that forum and you can freely ask about specific recovery for your condition and get good answers.
If the BJ Miller podcast is the best about living, this one is the best about training. I recently almost started gymnastics training with a coach but I felt to ridiculously under prepared that I felt I needed some.pretraining.
You can do most all the beginning work at home without much equipment. A few items will be essential but a onetime purchase of a doorway pullup bar and gymnastic rings pay for themselves over the course of using them over a number of workouts
I am also interested in this please. I am a golfer and have been doing prolotherapy/platelettreatment on my right elbow. This keeps flaring up when I try progress with GST foundation training. At the moment I am taking it very slow, setting my target on very slow foundation training over the next 200 days. If there is any advise on rehab/strengthening of elbows it would be appreciated. Maybe share what you and Tim have been working on.
Sorry- Also, on the podcast I thought I heard that you would be providing sample videos/links on how to perform some of the movements that you and Coach Sommer discussed, however, the link you attached above for gymasticbodies just takes you to the fundamentals purchase page. Not sure if you have to purchase to obtain those or not. Thanks again
Hi Tim Really liked this episode but it is very hard to visualise some of this stuff without videos or images. The gymnasticbodies.com/tim link does not have any videos, images etc as you have described only a discount coupon for gymnastic bodies.
Hey guys I'm looking to purchase foundation one but i just have some basic questions regarding weightlifting and GST. I really want to do gymnastics style training but I also really like weightlifting and would like to improve my deadlift, squat, etc... Currently my training consists of about 50 minutes of lifting monday, wednesday, friday and its mostly around the 5/6 rep range. I was wondering if it is possible to combine weightlifting and foundation one in the same day? Say lift weights in the after noon then foundation it night, or maybe even one after the other. Thanks.
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