Questions from Kiran ji's colleague..
Sanjeev Powari
DNJ!!
Rev Kiran ji took the initiative to talk about the mission and the message of eternal truth with her colleague thru email.
He has some questions. Can you all put an effort to answer his queries? This is a great time to learn from one another.
Here is the mail from her colleague.
WHO IS NIRANKAR? AND WHY WOULD YOU PRAY TO HIM WHEN JESUS DID DIE FOR US AND HE IS OUR STRENGTH.
HE SENT THE HOLY SPIRIT DOWN FROM HEAVEN WHEN HE WAS RESURRECTED TO GUIDE US.
DO YOU BELIEVE IN THAT. I CAN SEE BY THE EMAIL THAT YOU DO BELIEVE IN JESUS THOUGH, RIGHT?
JUST CURIOUS.......I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT YOU THINK.
IT'S ALWAYS INTERESTING TO ME.
Questions are:
1. WHO IS NIRANKAR?
2. WHY WOULD YOU PRAY TO HIM WHEN JESUS DID DIE FOR US AND HE IS OUR STRENGTH?
3. DO YOU BELIEVE IN JESUS?
Regards
Sanjeev
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Sanjeev Powari
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Unit# 711
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Phone 203-517-5638
Anita Ajay
dnj,
This is very good initiative taken by Kiran Ji.
I am not a learn saint like you all, but let me put few words together..
1.WHO IS NIRANKAR?
God, who is One, omnipresent, omnipotent, omniscient, eternal and formless.
Very well explained in Nirankari.com;
This aspect of cosmos has been termed as 'Nirankar' (Formless God), though invisible yet all-pervading. In fact what we see is unreal as it decays and dies. But what we do not see is reality because out of that invisible power the visible comes into existence. The changeless in the changing physical world is called God and the changeless in the changing human body is called the Soul. The one who experiences it is known as 'Nirankari'. The sole aim of the Mission is to impart the knowledge of Nirankar
(The Formless God) to the seekers' soul. Hence its name, ' The Sant Nirankari Mission'.
2. WHY WOULD YOU PRAY TO HIM WHEN JESUS DID DIE FOR US AND HE IS OUR STRENGTH?
3. DO YOU BELIEVE IN JESUS?
Yes we do believe in Jesus, as I mentioned above.
Sanjeev Powari
This is very good initiative taken by Kiran Ji.
I am not a learn saint like you all, but let me put few words together..
1.WHO IS NIRANKAR?
God, who is One, omnipresent, omnipotent, omniscient, eternal and formless.
Very well explained in Nirankari.com;
This aspect of cosmos has been termed as 'Nirankar' (Formless God), though invisible yet all-pervading. In fact what we see is unreal as it decays and dies. But what we do not see is reality because out of that invisible power the visible comes into existence. The changeless in the changing physical world is called God and the changeless in the changing human body is called the Soul. The one who experiences it is known as 'Nirankari'. The sole aim of the Mission is to impart the knowledge of Nirankar
(The Formless God) to the seekers' soul. Hence its name, ' The Sant Nirankari Mission'.
2. WHY WOULD YOU PRAY TO HIM WHEN JESUS DID DIE FOR US AND HE IS OUR STRENGTH?
3. DO YOU BELIEVE IN JESUS?
Yes we do believe in Jesus, as I mentioned above.
Bahl, Nishi
1. WHO IS NIRANKAR?
Just the way we as humans have different names by which our loved ones may call us by, similarly, there are many names given to the One - God, Allah, Yahweh, Rhab, Nirankar - but all is just One.
2. WHY WOULD YOU PRAY TO HIM WHEN
JESUS DID DIE FOR US AND HE IS OUR STRENGTH?
Jesus was the Son of God. But throughout time, God has come in many forms and many times. These forms that God took upon were means to communicate to the humankind the message of God. Jesus was also a messenger of that message. So when we are praying, we pray to the One, Formless God (Nirankar). In the present day and age, there too is a messenger of God, conveying God's message - Baba Hardev. Praying to Nirankar is praying to God (as mentioned above this is one and the same). Jesus was a messenger at that time, just the way Baba Hardev is the messenger for the current time.
3. DO YOU BELIEVE IN
JESUS?
As mentioned, Jesus was just a form that God took upon to come to earth to spread the message of love, peace, tolerance. So believing or not believing in Jesus is really irrelevant, when one believes in God. The ultimate purpose of Jesus (or any other form that God came to earth on) was to unite humankind to the ultimate One. We can call the One - God, Allah, Yahweh, Rhab, Nirankar etc. Ultimately, the message was always the same. The only difference has been the language, the form, the country, the time period that God came to earth. So to answer the question, yes we do believe in Jesus, just the way we believe in all other past messengers, prophets, or whatever other name you'd like to give to the person sacrificing their life to spreading the word of God whether it be Ram, Lord Krishna, Gobind Singh, Jesus, Buddha etc.
From: blessedn...@googlegroups.com [mailto:blessedn...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sanjeev Powari
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 2:52 PM
To: blessedn...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Blessednewyorkers] Questions from Kiran ji's colleague..
DNJ!!
Rev Kiran ji took the initiative to talk about the mission and the message of
eternal truth with her colleague thru email.
He has some questions. Can you
all put an effort to answer his queries? This is a great time to learn from one
another.
Here is the mail from her colleague.
WHO IS NIRANKAR? AND WHY WOULD YOU PRAY TO HIM WHEN JESUS DID DIE FOR US AND
HE IS OUR STRENGTH.
HE SENT THE HOLY SPIRIT DOWN FROM HEAVEN WHEN HE WAS
RESURRECTED TO GUIDE US.
DO YOU BELIEVE IN THAT. I CAN SEE BY THE
EMAIL THAT YOU DO BELIEVE IN JESUS THOUGH, RIGHT?
JUST CURIOUS.......I'D
LIKE TO KNOW WHAT YOU THINK.
IT'S ALWAYS INTERESTING TO ME.
Questions are:
1. WHO IS NIRANKAR?
2. WHY WOULD YOU PRAY TO HIM WHEN JESUS DID DIE FOR US
AND HE IS OUR STRENGTH?
3. DO YOU BELIEVE IN JESUS?
Regards
Sanjeev
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Nishi
DNJ,
These are some great questions. It takes some effort to realize. Nirankar is this spirit which is all around us and which is invisible as it is very close to us (one and the same). As Anita ji has explained very well.
In order to understand Jesus one needs to understand Nirankar. Jesus sacrificed for all of us not just to wash away our sins but for all of us to understand what God is and his greatness? His resurrection is the claim that we all are part of one God as we came from one source and will go back into this source. Our soul continues to live… it is only our physical body which changes. Jesus and Nirankar are synonyms so when one pray to Jesus one is praying to God himself. One cannot take away the truth and one cannot overlook it.
The strength is the faith which is shown by Jesus and this faith is one which drives us in our day to day life. This is a simple idea and the driving force shown by our present Satguru and what our Nirankari Mission stands for...…..to know one then worship one.
DNJ,
Nishi
From: blessedn...@googlegroups.com [mailto:blessedn...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anita Ajay
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 3:12
PM
To: blessedn...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Blessednewyorkers] Re: Questions from Kiran ji's colleague..
dnj,
This is very good initiative taken by Kiran Ji.
I am not a learn saint like you all, but let me put few words together..
1.WHO IS NIRANKAR?
God, who is One, omnipresent, omnipotent, omniscient, eternal and formless.
Very well explained in Nirankari.com;
This aspect of cosmos has been termed as 'Nirankar' (Formless God), though invisible yet all-pervading. In fact what we see is unreal as it decays and dies. But what we do not see is reality because out of that invisible power the visible comes into existence. The changeless in the changing physical world is called God and the changeless in the changing human body is called the Soul. The one who experiences it is known as 'Nirankari'. The sole aim of the Mission is to impart the knowledge of Nirankar
(The Formless God) to the seekers' soul. Hence its name, ' The Sant Nirankari Mission'.
2. WHY WOULD YOU PRAY TO HIM WHEN JESUS DID DIE FOR US AND HE IS OUR STRENGTH?
You are absolutely correct here. In that ERA, JESUS revealed this divine knowledge, but he is no longer among us, right? So who would reveal this divine knowledge to us? If you want to see GOD, How would you DO THAT? JESUS is not physically present among us.
True ...We have many holy books, which talk about this divine knowledge, but still you need a teacher to give you that eye to understand those.
3. DO YOU BELIEVE IN JESUS?
Yes we do believe in Jesus, as I mentioned above.
Thanks
Regards,
Anita
Preet
Wonderful Initiative..
1.WHO IS NIRANKAR?
Nirankar ( formless) , Changeless, Beyond birth and death. God has so many qualities that different people start calling it with different name like Nirankar, God, Allah, Akal Purakh etc..
2. WHY WOULD YOU PRAY TO HIM WHEN JESUS DID DIE FOR US AND HE IS OUR STRENGTH?
Moreover, we do pray Jesus but not in Human form but as GOD. So in other words when we pray Jesus we are praying Nirankar only.That's why in prayer we never use word "Baba Ji bless me" instead we use " Nirankar Bless Me".
Jesus not only died for the sins. He want the people to recognize the truth and follow the path of salvation. Jesus being Messiah of his time act as a bridge between the common people and GOD by eradicating ignorance and showing them right direction through Divine Knowledge.
That's why it's said..
Even if there are hundreds of suns, stars and moons in the sky. There will still be a pitch of darkness without TRUE GURU ( Messiah).
3. DO YOU BELIEVE IN JESUS?
Thanks
Preet
Sanjeev Powari
From: Kiran ji's colleague
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 2:15 PM
To: Kiran
Subject: RE: [Blessednewyorkers] Re: Questions from Kiran ji's colleague..
Nishi
DNJ!
How interesting are these thoughts. It is difficult to put in words what one feel and realize. Over the years I have learned and experienced many different ways of life and believes and seen blind following of rituals. By being in this mission I have learned that that only one thing matters i.e. know the almighty Nirankar and it is the blessing of the Satguru(complete Guru the enlightened one) that he has given the understanding to follow the path which helps us to be loved and give love. The feeling of contentment!
I do not know about the issue that God needs a blood sacrifice but do know that it is most difficult if supposed I was asked to do this sacrifice.
What I think about Jesus is as simple that he is that complete Guru who is the enlightened one and with his actions and examples he showed the truth that there is only one God and how we will have to live a life to cherish every human being no matter what background, no one individual is an outcast. The message he gave or we are following today is very Universal. It is the Guru who opens our eyes and show the truth and guide us like a parent so that we do not fumble in life like the case of Virginia Tech.
The whole idea that one can feel so close that we feel personal relationship with God is another truth that Nirankar is nothing else but this Holy Spirit who is always around us, in us and guiding us in our daily trials and tribulations.
Why it is important that it is through Satguru the path to Salvation is attainable. As mentioned by Saints that God takes the form of a human being and guide us with his life’s example to learn the truth and walk the walk on the path which is set for us. Though things are not easy…it is not impossible to follow…. inspite of a lot of skepticism around us.
Humbly,
Nishi