Building The Gymnastic Body: The Science Of Gymnastics Strength Training Books.pdf
Elis Riebow
My disappointment began on page 6 when I found out that I was being given "the basics" and 4 other volumes were required. Wow, I just paid $60 bucks with shipping for basics? So I am expected to pay $300 (roughly with shipping) for 5 books total, when it should have been all in one book? Comparative books about training in other modalities don't come in volume, they are in one volume, many in multiple editions as information/styles change. I felt as if I just threw my money away.
Building The Gymnastic Body: The Science Of Gymnastics Strength Training Books.pdf
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Coach Sommer, you are a smart man, but I for one am disappointed in the 1/2 inch book I got at that price. I feel cheated. For something that was so long in the making, and with the current economy, I wish I had spent my money elsewhere. :cry:
I have been reluctant to buy the book before the others are published. I don't have the money, so I am considering the future when looking over options. I will eventually like to get rings and have a complete program for conditioning. Thanks for the review, because "positive" reviews get posted a lot, but constructive "negative" reviews offer the best in finding a way to improve on something.
Sorry, but i do not agree.If it where so easy to find on internet, extraordinary reaction that causes the article on dragon door will not be ocurred.Training concepts are new and original and can not be found, anywhere else; only in this forum or in the book.
Well your negative review wasn't really about the book, but about your expectatives about the book. Yes we all find and agree that it would be better everything in one book and now, but the fact is that the book is innovative in some aspects and the exercises may be you can find them on internet but not the aproach of them and progressions, and of course if you have been here for a while, you get familiar with a lot of exercises Coach has posted.
And about the basics. Yes it's about 'basics' exercises for a gymnast, but hey, if you can do (i can not ) a manna, full ROM headstand pushups on rings, straddle planche pushups, full front lever pull ups, and some erbs and bowers, yes you are all right, it's really basic for you :wink: . It's basic beacause the progressions start at an easy level for almost everyone, but the top of the progressions i think are really advanced.
I also would like it includes handstand presses and all ring stuff, but that's the way it is and we will have to wait a bit, and may be when the others book arrive we will have a 'basic' strength to achive those advanced exercises. If you rate the book about what is not in the book, yes it may be dissapointing, but it you rated about what it is in the book i think the things changes. We have been waiting for 'THE BOOK' so long that yes, i agree with you that i was disapointed when i new that it will be in some volumes.
So, without expectatives, i think the book is great. With the expectatives of 'THE BOOK', yes is somehow dissapointing at first look, but when you puts your hands on it (i mean starting to do the exercises not just reading them) it gets much better.
And if my kids 9 and 10 years of age think it's hard (yes it's bascis), then it's hard. And don't forget they are probably more advenced then most of here (for example 10 year old kid, could hold a stradle planche).
When you buy something it's a wise idea to read the description on the page before you hit "add to cart". I just had a look at what is displayed on the product page for the book, and it's all there. Including a table of contents. It delivers exactly what it promises. Maybe you're just annoyed that the nearly 200 exercises were not secret, and it still meant you were going to have to spend a long time working very hard to get the results like everyone else?
EDIT: Increasing performance is not about having more exercises to do - It's about doing the right exercises, properly, with an intelligently structured approach appropriate to your current abilities.
The Table of Contents in the online store book overview specifically lists everything that is covered in this volume. There are no surprises as to what is contained in this volume; even the families of movements and the pages devoted to each subject are listed. As noted in the link above, and as been mentioned numerous times throughout this forum, Building the Gymnastic Body is solely concerned with the development of basic strength.
And, no, you have not seen most of these variations nor are they available anywhere else in the world, unless you are already a very advanced gymnast. And even then, the majority of these movements will be new or unfamiliar, as Gregor (a world calibre ring specialist and a National Team member for his country) has already pointed out.
My thoughts are exactly the opposite! The sole reason I came to this forum and went on to buy the books etc was because I couldn't find hardly ANY solid info about how to go about such training (and coach is very helpful). For a start the progressions are gold since I wouldn't of had a clue how to progress through the family of movements correctly. I mean sure you could keep on adding weight to an exercise but this isn't quite the same as moving through these progressions. Secondly, whilst I personally feel the program design section could have been slightly more detailed, it is once again an excellent resource. If you read the steady state, I don't believe there are many other programs out there that incoporate such ideas. Infact after reading it I tried to search for similar periodization models etc and couldn't find any, so I don't know about you but I wouldn't of known when to correctly progress along and this is completely original.
You are completely wrong Coach Sommer, people are interested in reading one 1,000 page volume versus a 5 x 200 volumes. There was much anticipation, and this is a let down. There are people with over 40 years of experience in many other fitness-related things who can put it all in one book. To try and pander to your own superior "knowledge" is arrogant to say the least. I can tell you I'm an expert in my own occupation, and I wouldn't be so glib.
I have to disagree as well. This volume is just about basic strength, nothing more nothing less. And for me this volume is far from being "basic." I think having everything in one book would make it hard to digest and the physical size of the book would be an inconvenience to say the least. I regularly take my book to the gym because everyone always asks me about my conditioning program. The 200 or so pages seems to be the perfect size, and I cant wait for the other books to come out!
I think you were expecting this book to be the perfect workout book that contains all of the secrets in gymnastics conditioning. This would of course be impossible, even for all of the upcoming volumes combined. I am sure the complete volume will contain a treasure trove of knowledge that will be unmatched in the world of conditioning books but the "secrets" I think you were looking for have to come from your own experiences in training your own body and mind. The one 'big' secret that I have learned so far in my journey is. . . "patience, consistency and hard work prevails" in other words, from Gregors sig, "work is more than talent!!"
I totally agree Coach. I dont even think you could cover everything in 20 books. There are some things you need to learn by just going out and giving it a try. Handstands would be the perfect example, no matter how many books you read about them you will never learn to balance on your hands without extensive practice and insight about how your own body works.
You won't get any REAL secrets,because there isn't any just maybe "secret details" for elite gymnasts...As for general population, gymnastics is to complex sport to have it all in a one book. I read a book just for a rings and it's to comlex to comprehand for normal not whole life in gymnastics guy.
I too have the opposite view of the original post in this thread. I paid $44 for the book and $4.80 for shipping. When I just looked on the site it is still available for $44, so I am assuming the extra cost is for additional shipping was based on your location. In my opinion this book gave me exactly what it was advertised as, a book to develop strength using a progression of gymnastic moves. I did not assume that this was a book about everything you wanted to know to become an elite gymnast and I probably would not have made the purchase if it was an all inclusive volume. I have bought several fitness books and I feel that I received a very good return on my investment with this book.
When I first read the book my first reaction was to be overwhelmed with the amount of exercises and trying to understand it all. As I began to develop my workout plans, I began to understand, that I did not need to understand everything in the book at once. I only needed to understand the exercises that were pertinent to my current abilities. The table of content and the index in this book are outstanding for quickly referencing where an exercise is located in the book. I really appreciate the extra time to develop this index and layouts.
My current approach is to workout 3 times a week using gymnastics. I have a sheet with the different categories, basically the table of contents, and the progression for each exercise groups. I list each grouping and the exercise that I can currently do and maybe the next hardest exercise in that group. Each week I try to work through the entire sheet doing at least one exercise from each of the groups. For example upper body pressing, I list pushups, dips, HeSPU and MPPr and for pushups I list XR and XR Bulgarian. So for a week I would do one exercise from each grouping.
I feel the best feature of this book is the simplicity of the progression of exercises from one level of strength to another. In all sports, what makes coaches successful is their ability to take something complex and simplify or break things down into their basic components. I feel what has made Coach Sommer so successful is his ability to simplify this progression into very easily understood steps. I believe what I have purchased is a book that describes, how to progress from the most basic move to a progressively harder move. This series of progressions may take any where from months to several years to obtain the top progressions. By my way of thinking, $44 for a book that provides at least 5 years of progressive strength training is a very good deal.
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