THE SERMONISER OF THE GITA
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harsha palli
Oct 9, 2012, 4:27:57 PM10/9/12
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Om Shanti Angels,
Nice article on "Who is the Sermonizer of GITA?"
I always wonder how does it matter if it is Krishna or Shiv Baba who Spoke Gita?
At last even Krishna's soul is also one of the elevated soul, He is BapSaman anyhow. Then what difference does it make if it's Krishna or ShivBaba who spoke Gita?
In Today's murli Baba very much pulled our attention to this questions.
Check this out : http://youtube.com/bfr7SHfEW78?t=3m30s (Dadi Ratan Mohini reading murli)
Few thoughts :
1. Essence of Gita is Manmanbhav (which means just Remember me) and your sins will be incinerate. Especially when This is the only way out of our problem, It matters more than ever who said "Remember ME alone".
2. Essence of knowledge (Gita) is to become Soul conscious from body conscious. All the virtues of the soul awakens when we become soul conscious. If the God himself is a bodily being (Krishna) there is no question of consider the self to be bodyless souls.
3. Once we go into depth of knowledge and see how actually soul gets empowered/recharged/cleansed/purified. We see soul like a battery, which drains its energy by using, we souls drain our energy by in this journey of life or Drama. At the end of the journey of soul (battery) comes the Powerhouse to recharge all the Batteries and get ready for the next show of the Drama.
The method to connect and recharge a soul is Remembrance of Powerhouse, Supreme soul.
Now it very much matters which soul is power house? is it Krishna's soul or Supreme Soul (ShivBaba)? it also matters how accurately do I recognize and connect to The powerhouse/Supreme soul.
4. Gita is mother of all religious scriptures. Big chunk of Bible concepts are from Gita with a change of name, Krishna to Jesus. This is hard ball to play (as they will never what Baba says as they are from a branch. They can never conceptualize the whole tree) but we can direct their attention to "God The Father" rather than the son to pay for there sins (Christian's believe Jesus will pay for their sins).
Please share your thoughts. Looking forward to see your thoughts.
This is Baba's favorite topic of service.
IBY
Harsha
On Sunday, October 7, 2012 11:06:02 PM UTC-7, Angel of GOD wrote:
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> THE SERMONISER OF THE GITA
> –WHO, WHAT,WHEN, WHY, HOW?
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> The Bhagavad Gita is one of the most popular scriptures which people have been reading and teaching daily with great devotion. Some of the verses of Gita are very well known. In one popular
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> According to the cycles of time there are four main ages or epochs namely Satyuga, Tretayuga Dwapuryuga and then
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> It is believed that Shri Krishna sermonized the Gita in Dwapur Yuga.
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> Some people call God 'Ishwar', some call Him Jehova, while some call him 'Allah', but He and His form remain the same.
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> God is the father, mother, friend, preceptor / guide, teacher and protector of all souls. He is the only one who has no parents, guide, teacher or protector above Him.
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> Unlike human souls, God doesn't come into the cycle of birth and death. Hence He is called ' Ajanma' (One who doesn't take birth).
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> The Supreme Soul never takes birth as humas do humans, He however takes a divine birth to salvage humanity He takes a divine birth. By divine birth is meant that He does not come into
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> God Shiva is incorporeal; He is a Point of Light, or Jyoti Bindu. For the purpose of worship devotees use a Shiva lingum as it is not practical to worship a bindi or Jyoti bindu, Shiva’s true form.
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> God is described as Satyam, Shivam , Sundaram or the TRUTH, the BENEFACTOR, and as BEAUTIFUL.
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> If the spiritual secrets behind the festival of Shivratri are understood, world transformation will take place easily. Shivratri is not a festival for just Shaivites. If one studies ancient civilizations and cultures it becomes apparent that Shivratri is a festival for all souls of the world.
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> When God Shiva descends at confluence of kaliyuga and Satyuga, or Sangam yuga He gives the knowledge that Time moves in a cyclic pattern and that all the 4 ages (Satyuga , Treta, Dwapar,and Kaliyug) get repeated every cycle or kalpa. A kalpa is of 5000 years duration.
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> When God Shiva comes, He sermonises Gita, and establishes the Original Eternal Deity Religion (Adi Sanatan Devi- Devata Dharm). This is the religion that gets continued in Satyug and Treta yug. God’s descent and incarnation on earth is known as Shivratri or Shiv jayanti. Since He sermonizes the Gita it is also the birth of the Gita.
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> Brahma kumaris have been spreading His teachings since 75 years. This Raja yoga course is given free of charge. There are already around 8,500 Brahma Kumaris centres in 134 countries. Brahma Kumaris Organisation has been working with the United Nations for world
> peace and upliftment of humanity for more than 30 years and received many awards.
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> You are all welcome to learn this Raj yoga and to establish a link with the Supreme Soul who is the Ocean of Knowledge and World Almighty Authority.
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> Om shanti.
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> 1. Satyug (Golden age), 2.Treta yug,
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> 4. Kaliyug (Iron age)5. Sangamyug (Diamond age)
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> “One God, One World Family”
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> Live Life Light
> Enjoy your Life Today
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> Because yesterday had Gone
> And Tomorrow Never Comes
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> No sweet thought 2 fwd U,
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> Just a caring heart saying GOD bless U.
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