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Chris Gunn

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May 14, 2011, 12:25:12 PM5/14/11
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If you notice your messages don't appear in a newsgroup or are gone the
next day, please don't post them again. If one of the following has
occurred, your message will probably be rejected or canceled again:

1. If you post to a "(Moderated)" newsgroup such as biz.general, the
messages are sent to the Moderator as E-Mail first. The Moderator then
decides what will appear in the newsgroup itself. If accepted, you may
not see your message until the next day or so.

2. If you post to a Retro-Moderated newsgroup (You need to refer to the
charter to tell if they are.), the Moderator may issue a "cancel" which
removes any off-topic or objectionable messages. You may see your
message for a few hours until the cancellation takes effect.

3. Most of the biz groups are now monitored by an anti-spam auto-cancel
site. It is carefully set up to observe the BI (Breidbart Index) >=20
rule and follows the <cancel.>, !mmfcancel and !cyberspam conventions
when formatting the cancel messages. The robot treats all messages, no
matter what their source, the same. This is the standard method
accepted by all of the Usenet authorities.

Note: The anti-spam robots that monitor newsgroups in other hierarchies
may also result in cross-posted messages being cancelled in the biz
newsgroups. None of the auto-cancel sites are affiliated with
BIZynet Inc and our articles are subject to the same rules.

Basically it means you are allowed to post the same message about twenty
times during a sliding 45 day period. The index is based on how many
newsgroups, so large cross-post lists qualify just as quickly as posting
the same message individually. Changing the Subject line or minor changes
to the text do not qualify as a different message. If you post like crazy
the first week, any replicates of the same message will be canceled until
the posting frequency stays under the Breidbart Index for 45 days.

For example: If you post the same product list once a week to four
newsgroups and only change prices, after five weeks all copies of your
message will start getting cancelled. They will continue being cancelled
until you stop posting that message for at least a month.

What's really safe? Pick no more than five newsgroups that will be the
most productive and your message will fit within the charter. Two or three
in the biz groups and the rest in other hierarchies, like alt and misc,
will do the trick. Time your posting carefully so posts to each newsgroup
occur once per week or less. Instead of posting to all of them at once,
it's better to spread them out over the week.

Your message will hang around for a week or so and
readers will find it if there isn't too much clutter.

News Readers such as Netscape and Free Agent are set to show only new
messages most of the time. After you have read your message or marked the
group as read, your message will not appear in your news reader window
even though it is on the server. In Netscape, go to Options/Show all
messages to see the messages (including probably yours) that remain on
the server. If you see your message, there is no need to post again. If
you don't see your message, using the guidelines found in this FAQ and
good business practices, consider whether to post it again or not.

For those that like to try to beat the system, keep in mind that anyone
reading the newsgroups can complain to your ISP. Even those using a bogus
address or stealth mailer can be tracked down and locked out. You are
expected to use a valid reply address in the heading if you post to the
biz.* newsgroups BIZynet maintains.

A valid reply address does not include an auto-responder in the From or
the Reply-To heading lines. The moderators tend to get annoyed when they
get spammed as a result of a rejection message or trying to help you.

From a marketing standpoint on the newsgroups, over saturation by a few
individuals hurts everyone's chances. Experience over the last eight years
has taught us that about once per week in a newsgroup gives everyone the
best chance at readers finding their advertising. Every 10 days is a
little better and rotates the message through the days of the week. On
some of specialty biz newsgroups, you should work at two week intervals.

Some folks may feel they are being stifled by all this control. Believe
me, it improves everyone's sales and we need everyone working together to
get there.

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