CICS/TS Data Areas

DeVore, Karl W.

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Aug 16, 2005, 10:49:45 AM8/16/05

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I'm looking for the equivalent of the "Data Areas" manual for CICS/TS and haven't had any success finding it on the CDs or web. Can someone point me in the right direction?

TIA - Karl

Karl DeVore

Lake County, Illinois

Department of Information and Technology

Technical Services Division

Office: 847.377.2797

Fax: 847.625.7107

Frank M. Ramaekers

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Aug 16, 2005, 10:51:35 AM8/16/05

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What is it you are looking for? (There are a lot less "Data Areas" accessible in CICS/TS)

Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.
Systems Programmer; MCP, MCP+I, MCSE & RHCE
American Income Life Insurance Company
Phone: (254) 761-6649 Fax: (254) 741-5777

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DeVore, Karl W.

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Aug 16, 2005, 11:03:43 AM8/16/05

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I'm looking for the equivalent of the CICS/VSE 2.3 Data Areas
manual(LY33-6075-03) for CICS Transaction Server.

Karl

Frank M. Ramaekers

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Aug 16, 2005, 11:11:36 AM8/16/05

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Okay, there is no such thing!

Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.
Systems Programmer

American Income Life Insurance Company
Phone: (254) 761-6649

Michael Horlick

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Aug 16, 2005, 11:15:51 AM8/16/05

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Karl,

I have this book. It is called "CICS Transaction Server for VSE/ESA CICS
Data Areas" LY33-6086-01. I had to order the hardcopy book from IBM. As far
as I know not available on web or CD
Is there a particular section of the book (or control block) you are
interested in ?

Mike

DeVore, Karl W.

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Aug 16, 2005, 11:16:09 AM8/16/05

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Thanks Frank - I appreciate it.

Karl

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Subject: RE: CICS/TS Data Areas

Okay, there is no such thing!

Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.
Systems Programmer

American Income Life Insurance Company
Phone: (254) 761-6649

Frank M. Ramaekers

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Aug 16, 2005, 11:22:43 AM8/16/05

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I stand corrected. I couldn't find it (as Mike states) on the latest
CD.

Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.
Systems Programmer
American Income Life Insurance Company
Phone: (254) 761-6649

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Subject: RE: CICS/TS Data Areas

Karl,

I have this book. It is called "CICS Transaction Server for VSE/ESA CICS
Data Areas" LY33-6086-01. I had to order the hardcopy book from IBM. As
far
as I know not available on web or CD
Is there a particular section of the book (or control block) you are
interested in ?

Mike

Eugene S. Hudders

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Aug 16, 2005, 11:28:43 AM8/16/05

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Karl:

These manuals have to be ordered from IBM and now consist of two separate
manuals CICS Data Areas (old control blocks) LY33-6086 and CICS Supplemental
Data Areas (new control blocks) LY33-6087. The manual numbers may have
changed.

Regards,
Gene

DeVore, Karl W.

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Aug 16, 2005, 11:35:04 AM8/16/05

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Mike -

I'm looking for the offsets for the PPTE and PPTTE from the beginning of the
CSA.

Thanks - Karl

David Stuart

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Aug 16, 2005, 11:43:56 AM8/16/05

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Karl,

LY33-6086-01, CICS Data Areas and
LY33-6087-01, CICS Supplementary Data Areas

There might be newer versions.

Dave

Dave Stuart
Prin. Info. Systems Support Analyst
County of Ventura, CA
805-662-6731
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Michael Horlick

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Aug 16, 2005, 11:48:00 AM8/16/05

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Karl,

Do you have the name that was used by CICS/VSE 2.3 ? I can't seem to find
them in the CICS/TS Data Areas book. There is a pointer called CSAPCTTA (at
CSA + x'1d0') that contains the address of the Program Control Table Prefix
but no PPT. Will keep on looking but in my not be in CSA (maybe it is
accessed through the Table Manager ?)

DeVore, Karl W.

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Aug 16, 2005, 11:39:01 AM8/16/05

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Gene - Thanks !

The manual numbers are on my bosses desk...

Karl

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DeVore, Karl W.

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Aug 16, 2005, 12:04:33 PM8/16/05

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Mike -

I saw reference to these control blocks in the Problem determination guide:

PPTE program processing table element
PPTTE program processing table entries

What I'm looking for is the equivalent to the old PPTPS in CICS/VSE 2.3.

Thanks - Karl

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Michael Horlick
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Subject: RE: CICS/TS Data Areas

Karl,

Do you have the name that was used by CICS/VSE 2.3 ? I can't seem to find
them in the CICS/TS Data Areas book. There is a pointer called CSAPCTTA (at
CSA + x'1d0') that contains the address of the Program Control Table Prefix
but no PPT. Will keep on looking but in my not be in CSA (maybe it is
accessed through the Table Manager ?)

Mike

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From: owner...@Lehigh.EDU [mailto:owner...@Lehigh.EDU] On Behalf Of
DeVore, Karl W.
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 11:35 AM
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Subject: RE: CICS/TS Data Areas

Mike -

I'm looking for the offsets for the PPTE and PPTTE from the beginning of the
CSA.

Thanks - Karl

-----Original Message-----
From: owner...@Lehigh.EDU [mailto:owner...@Lehigh.EDU] On Behalf Of
Michael Horlick
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 10:15 AM
To: VSE Discussion List
Subject: RE: CICS/TS Data Areas

Karl,

I have this book. It is called "CICS Transaction Server for VSE/ESA CICS
Data Areas" LY33-6086-01. I had to order the hardcopy book from IBM. As far
as I know not available on web or CD Is there a particular section of the
book (or control block) you are interested in ?

Mike

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From: owner...@Lehigh.EDU [mailto:owner...@Lehigh.EDU] On Behalf Of
DeVore, Karl W.
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 11:03 AM
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Subject: RE: CICS/TS Data Areas

I'm looking for the equivalent of the CICS/VSE 2.3 Data Areas
manual(LY33-6075-03) for CICS Transaction Server.

Karl

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From: owner...@Lehigh.EDU [mailto:owner...@Lehigh.EDU] On Behalf Of
Frank M. Ramaekers
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 9:51 AM
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Subject: RE: CICS/TS Data Areas

What is it you are looking for? (There are a lot less "Data Areas"
accessible in CICS/TS)

Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.
Systems Programmer; MCP, MCP+I, MCSE & RHCE American Income Life Insurance
Company
Phone: (254) 761-6649 Fax: (254) 741-5777

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DeVore, Karl W.
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Eugene S. Hudders

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Aug 16, 2005, 12:00:14 PM8/16/05

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Hi Karl:

The PPT/PPTE are no longer anchored off the CSA. They are part of the
Directory Domain. You need to get the Supplemental Data Areas for these
control blocks.

Regards,
Gene

Ward, Garry

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Aug 16, 2005, 12:19:07 PM8/16/05

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That is quite possibly no longer available. Part of the CICS/TS
restructuring was to remove a lot of anchors and links so that non IBM
code couldn't tamper with them.

New references were provided for somethings and documented in the
CICS/TS Systems Programming Reference.

Garry

Mike -

Thanks - Karl

Karl,

Mike

Mike -

Thanks - Karl

Karl,

Mike

Karl

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Aug 16, 2005, 12:43:48 PM8/16/05

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Hi Karl:

These are the ones you need but are no longer as easy to get to as in the
CICS/VSE. You need to locate the Kernel (KCB) that contains a pointer to
the Domain Table. In the table you have to look up the Directory Domain
(DD). The DD is the replacement (not entirely) of the Table Manager. In the
DD you need to locate the different entries until you find the PPT entry.
Then you have to follow a chain or use the hash table to locate the entries.
Why do you need to look at a PPT(E)?

Regards,
Gene

DeVore, Karl W.

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Aug 16, 2005, 1:23:34 PM8/16/05

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Gene, et all -

Thanks for the assistance.

I'm more interested in the PPTTE for a particular program. The PPTE is one
of those "curiosity" things...

In ordering the manuals, the "01" levels for LY33-6086 & LY33-6087 are the
most current. The publication titles and the pricing are interesting even
though the abstracts are the same for both rev levels.

LY33-6086-00 CICS Transaction Server for VSE/ESA V1R1 Data Areas - Price
$35.00 (USD) - 1999 - 602 pages
LY33-6086-01 CICS Transaction Server for VSE/ESA V1.0 Data Areas - Price
$98.00 (USD) - 2000 - 638 pages

LY33-6087-00 CICS Transaction Server for VSE/ESA V1R1 Supplementary Data
Areas - Price $20.00 (USD) - 1999 - 276 pages
LY33-6087-01 CICS Transaction Server for VSE/ESA V1.0 Supplementary Data
Areas - Price $ 7.90 (USD) - 2000 - 314 pages

Regards - Karl

Karl DeVore
Lake County, Illinois
Department of Information and Technology
Technical Services Division
Office: 847.377.2797
Fax: 847.625.7107