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Hans Rempel, HMR Consultants

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Nov 5, 2013, 9:24:03 AM11/5/13
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I have been reviewing posts and it appears that VSE (IBM or CSI) stack does not support Secure FTP using SSH.

 

Does that mean if I have a Secure FTP server on the LAN using only SSH protocol that from VSE I cannot connect and FTP files using the PUT method?

 

Hans

 

 

 

From: owner...@Lehigh.EDU [mailto:owner...@Lehigh.EDU] On Behalf Of McBride, Catherine
Sent: September-13-07 8:04 PM
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Subject: FTPS

 

Anybody tried FTPS (NOT SFTP, this is not a type-o) using CSI's stack without the additional SecureFTP add-on?  Am of the belief that all we need is SSL to pull it off, but would like to hear it from someone who's actually done it..

Thanks in advance and kind regards,

Cathy McBride

Jeffrey Barnard

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Nov 5, 2013, 10:03:47 AM11/5/13
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Hans,

SFTP (FTP over an SSH connection) is not supported by z/VSE.

FTPS (FTP over an SSL connection) is supported by z/VSE. Both BSI and CSI
support this type of FTP.

On 11/05/2013 09:23 AM, Hans Rempel, HMR Consultants wrote:
> Does that mean if I have a Secure FTP server on the LAN using only SSH
> protocol that from VSE I cannot connect and FTP files using the PUT method?

Yes. This is exactly what it means. SFTP (FTP over an SSH connection) is
not supported by z/VSE.

You might check into the features of your FTP server. Many support implicit
FTPS usually using port 990. Perhaps you can enable this feature.

Regards,
Jeff

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Frank M. Ramaekers

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Nov 5, 2013, 10:09:25 AM11/5/13
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I do believe that you need to purchase a license for SecureFTP from CSI
for FTPS. (SSL license is insufficient.)

Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.

Hans Rempel, HMR Consultants

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Nov 5, 2013, 10:40:28 AM11/5/13
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Thanks Jeff/Frank.

Our license is with IBM. I believe SSL is included. Does anyone with IBM
licenses know if the FTPS client is also included in the IBM VSE package.

Hans

Andy Engels

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Nov 5, 2013, 11:05:49 AM11/5/13
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We just added Secure FTP to our long list of stuff.  From CSI….

 

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Hans Rempel, HMR Consultants

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Nov 8, 2013, 11:02:55 AM11/8/13
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I have been asked if the “mainframe does active FTPS connections with explicit SSL encryption?”

 

The big issue here is ACTIVE vs PASSIVE. Using ACTIVE reduces the ports needed to be opened in the firewall.  

 

Does CSI/IBM TCPIP 1.5F support ACTIVE FTP? If so is it the default or do I need to set a parm in my JCL.

 

I’m currently using the following JCL.

 

// EXEC FTPBATCH,SIZE=FTPBATCH,PARM='SSL=CLIENT'

SET SSL PRIVATE CRYPTO.KEYRING.TCSSL01 NOCLAUTH ALL

LOPEN

LUSER REMPELH

LPASS xxxx

LAUTH SSL

OPEN gallo.humber.ca

AUTH SSL

PROT P

USER yyyyuser

PASS xxxxxx

DIR

 

Thanks for your comments.

 

Hans

 

From: vse-l-bounces+hans=hmrconsul...@lists.lehigh.edu [mailto:vse-l-bounces+hans=hmrconsul...@lists.lehigh.edu] On Behalf Of Edward M. Martin


Sent: November-05-13 11:35 AM
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Subject: RE: Secure FTP (FTPS or SFTP)

 

Hello Everyone,

 

      I have noticed that the Secure FTP world is crazy with labels and is very confusing.

      I have attached a doc explaining each type of FTP, FTP/SSL, SFTP, FTPS, etc.

 

      If I remember correctly CSI does have FTP/SSL or FTP over TLS/SSL (same thing).

 

      Please let me know if my attachment helps or needs more information.   

 

 

Ed Martin

Aultman Health Foundation

330-363-9666

Ext 39666

 


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Edward M. Martin

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Nov 8, 2013, 12:32:51 PM11/8/13
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Hello Hans,

 

I am not sure if PASSIVE or ACTIVE plays in the SSL world.

 

From the CSI Optional Features manual, you define the ports that you are going to use.

 

 

An implicit SSL client uses a port number of 990. An

explicit SSL client uses other port numbers. An implicit

client is more secure because the SSL handshake occurs

just after the connection is opened, before any messages

are exchanged. With explicit clients, the SSL handshake

does not occur until the AUTH SSL command is received.

 

 

 

Ed Martin

Aultman Health Foundation

330-363-9666

Ext 39666

 

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