TMON VSE, TMON CICS/VSE and TMON CICS TS/VSE

[Tom Bason]

There have been several emails posted recently that have suggested ASG has
terminated its the development staff for its TMON VSE products. I would
like to set the record straight. ASG is committed to the full support of
our TMON VSE product line. The development staff that is assigned to these
products provides 24x7 support. Our support of these products will continue
indefinitely.

Our VSE customers are important to us. We will continue to evaluate our
position with the DOS/VSE market and make appropriate adjustments concerning
new products, support and enhancement of existing products as needed.

Tom Bason | Director, Product Management
tom....@asg.com

<http://www.asg.com/>

[Vincent Porch]

Tom, This is news to many of us. I have one question. In the context of
being used within you organization will you kindly define the word
'sunsetted'? And to the list anyone running DOS/VSE?

[Jeffrey C Barnard]

Vincent,

> Tom, This is news to many of us. I have one question. In the context of
> being used within you organization will you kindly define the word
> 'sunsetted'? And to the list anyone running DOS/VSE?

DOS/VSE? When did VSE/ESA 1.1 come out? 20 years ago?
Was VSE/SP officially DOS/VSE/SP? If so, when did VSE/SP 4.2 come out?

Good questions for you history buffs ... Pete? You out there?

Regards,
Jeff
--
Jeffrey C Barnard
Barnard Software, Inc. http://www.bsiopti.com
Phone 407-323-4773 Fax 407-323-4775

[Justin McMurry]

I will take a stab at it, as a retired IBM'er with perhaps a few non-dead
brain cells left from that time period....:

- DOS/VSE was announced in Jan 1979 with the 4300 series (I know that is
true because I was a co-author of the DOS/VSE Entry User's Guide, working in
Boeblingen in 1978 and early 1979 - I still have the pencil
holder/thermometer with the date on it to prove it!).

- VSE SIPO/E (System Installation Productivity Option - Extended) delivered
in about 1980 or 1981, based on DOS/VSE. If I remember correctly, you could
still order the separate products at that time and build your own system, or
get the SIPO/E. We had a wee bit of a struggle to get SIPO/E's
installed.....

- VSE/SP Version 2 was announced in 1984, delivered in 1985. Contained the
new IUI, based on the original interface delivered with the SIPO/E starting
in the early 1980's.

- VSE/ESA was announced in 1991 I think, maybe 1990, somewhere in that
timeframe.

DOS/VSE really disappeared in 1985 with the announcement of VSE/SP, although
many folks continued to refer to it that way for a long time.

Justin
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[LCHA...@familydollar.com]

You might want to also look at the wording of the e-mail from Tom Bason. On
one hand he states that the development staff is committed to support for an
indefinite period, on the other hand he states that they will EVALUATE their
position in regards to adjustments concerning SUPPORT and ENHANCEMENTS of
existing products.

I don't think that a REAL commitment to upgrades has been made. Maybe Tom
has been listening to too many political commercials lately.

Loren Charnley, Jr.
Tech Support Administrator
Family Dollar Stores, Inc.
Phone: (704) 847-6961 Ext. 2000

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[Vincent Porch]

I too was around in the late 70's early 80's had have worked with
DOS\VSE and VSE\SP. VSE\ESA grew out of these systems. The point I am
making is that twice in the last few months we have had the term
'SUNSETTED' used to describe TMON for VSE by the Landmark\Allen
Systems
Group. I was told that it was to mean no new development. My
organization is\was considering getting TMON for VSE and CICS and I
like
to see this term publicly clarified. I have been around VSE for a long
time. I'd like so see it continue to grow. The major reason that my
organization is considering going to Z/OS is the lack of support and
new
development from some vendors. I would rather spend my software
dollars
with vendors that is trying to keep VSE\ESA a player in the mainframe
arena. That would seem to benefit all of us. This is not meant to bash
anyone. But I agree with Loran's, Tom's cleverly worded post did not
clarify the development and support position of ASG in regards to VSE.

Now I wonder why?

[Vincent Porch]

My apologies to the list for the typo's in my last post. This happens
sometimes when I get my Irish up!

[Tom Bason]

My apologies for the use of the archaic term DOS/VSE. I should have only
used VSE or VSE/ESA in my last post.

I would like to respond to the request to define the term "sunsetted" as it
is used at ASG. We use this term to describe a software product that has
been withdrawn from marketing and is no longer supported. So it is a
product we neither sell nor for which we provide fixes. Ample notification
is given to our customers prior to moving a product into this status.

As I said in my earlier post, ASG is committed to the full support of our
TMON VSE product line. It is still being actively sold.

Sorry for the confusion.

[Vincent Porch]

Tom, Well pardon me for being misinformed. So I guess we can look
forward to a new release and /or meaning full upgrades. Thanks for
taking the time to clarify this situation.